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FlaShFTW
United States10530 Posts
On November 06 2020 13:15 Toadesstern wrote: another update from GA, won by Trump, lead increased by 30 and is now 1805 no idea where that update came from This is from Forsyth, a county Trump is up by 34 points. The fact that it was practically 50/50 in the vote is actually really good for Biden. He needs to average 60/40 for the rest of the votes. | ||
The_Templar
your Country52798 Posts
On November 06 2020 13:16 TheYango wrote: That's comparing the Trump we have to a hypothetical Trump that couldn't possibly exist. The alternative in 2016 wasn't Trump vs. hypothetical-Trump, it was Trump vs. Hillary Clinton. And the same people who treat Trump's word as gospel also despise Hillary Clinton and would do the exact opposite of anything she ever said. I was addressing your first sentence, about how "trump couldn't possibly have done anything". | ||
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Grackaroni
United States9857 Posts
On November 06 2020 13:08 Wegandi wrote: What evidence do you have that Gov can control the virus? Look at Europe, Australia, etc. Were a liberal democracy so instituting authoritarian china policies isn't going to fly (plus youd just yell at Trump for being more of an authoritarian if he did and you'd also say its unconstitutional). Im curious, what would you have done and why do you think what you'd do would both be effecrive and be different than Europe/Aus? It'd be helpful if it wasn't viewed as a hoax by large swaths of the population and if taking basic precautions such as wearing a mask and avoiding large crowds wasn't turned into a partisan issue. I don't think Biden could do anything to change people's perceptions but Trump definitely could have impacted some people's views rather than downplaying it and spreading misinformation. I think Trump even had a good chance of improving his reelection chances if he handled Coronavirus professionally. So many governors increased their approval rating just by taking the virus seriously. | ||
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StasisField
United States1086 Posts
On November 06 2020 13:17 m4ini wrote: Three. It's three, you liar. Even fucking italy is doing better than the US, by your very metric. That's most, right? I heard Europe only consists of GB, France, Italy, and Germany. | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On November 06 2020 13:14 Wegandi wrote: Have you looked at per capita #'s? Many countries in Europe are far worse than the US. (Most actually) I think the US has a pretty good geographical advantage with the pacific ocean on one side and the atlantic on the other. It also started earlier in Italy (and thus EU as a whole) so much less time to react in those hard hit places in the EU Not even trying to argue how good or bad it should have been in the US but I think it's fair to say that with a president that says the disease is a hoax at best or just another flue at worst and you would have had less people infected. Not even talking about lockdowns or measures. Hell I wouldn't be surprised if a bunch of Trump supporters got infected or infected others while trying to prove that it's just fake news and acting more stupid on purpose | ||
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The_Templar
your Country52798 Posts
On November 06 2020 13:14 Wegandi wrote: Have you looked at per capita #'s? Many countries in Europe are far worse than the US. (Most actually) What metric are you using? | ||
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Diavlo
Belgium2915 Posts
On November 06 2020 13:08 Wegandi wrote: What evidence do you have that Gov can control the virus? Look at Europe, Australia, etc. Were a liberal democracy so instituting authoritarian china policies isn't going to fly (plus youd just yell at Trump for being more of an authoritarian if he did and you'd also say its unconstitutional). Im curious, what would you have done and why do you think what you'd do would both be effective and be different than Europe/Aus? You have to be trolling. Europe managed to curb the pandemic in the first wave. We got complacent and opened everything too soon and we basically have to go through the same heavy mesures as the first time as a punishment. But most countries managed weeks with virtually no deaths. Arguing that nothing can be done is a fucking farce especially when taking into account de fact that the US had more time to prepare itself and learn from our mistakes and instead did fuck all but pedal conspiracy theories. | ||
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TheTenthDoc
United States9561 Posts
I wouldn't be surprised if they're seeing this as a blessing. Clawed back some ground in the house, all but guaranteed the Senate, and kicked out someone they hated with every fiber of their being. | ||
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FlaShFTW
United States10530 Posts
Translation: "I've seen enough" | ||
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Stratos_speAr
United States6959 Posts
On November 06 2020 13:14 Wegandi wrote: Have you looked at per capita #'s? Many countries in Europe are far worse than the US. (Most actually) This is factually wrong. A basic fucking Google search would correct this. Do you even try? | ||
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FlaShFTW
United States10530 Posts
On November 06 2020 13:22 Stratos_speAr wrote: This is factually wrong. A basic fucking Google search would correct this. Do you even try? No. No he doesn't. When will y'all realize this lol | ||
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m4ini
4215 Posts
That's most, right? I heard Europe only consists of GB, France, Italy, and Germany. Well also Spain. I haven't counted, but i think that should be about all of the 44 countries in europe. What metric are you using? Death per capita. And he conveniently leaves out how many people lost their jobs compared to european countries where governments, rather than throwing a laughable bone in form of 1200usd at their people, actually made an effort to keep people employed through Kurzarbeit/furlough schemes and other options. | ||
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Dante08
Singapore4179 Posts
On November 06 2020 13:14 The_Templar wrote: Millions of americans follow every word trump says. If he had encouraged mask wearing and social distancing from the start, we would have at least been able to cooperate on the basics. Not really I think, it's just culture in western countries. Just look at the difference between Asia and Europe/US in handling the pandemic. That day when France/UK announced lockdowns tons of people went to protest. | ||
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TheTenthDoc
United States9561 Posts
On November 06 2020 13:21 FlaShFTW wrote: https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/1324567154306490368?s=20 Translation: "I've seen enough" My pictogram skills are real rusty; even knowing the translation I don't see how they map. But I am glad Silver continues to meme and needle Wasserman, it's good entertainment. Edit: Ohhh, H"I've" "sea"-"knee" "off." | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
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polgas
Canada1786 Posts
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FlaShFTW
United States10530 Posts
On November 06 2020 13:26 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: I mean wtf doesn't even cover it. https://twitter.com/samstein/status/1324565827690049538 I'm just at a loss of words right now. At first it was like, ok hes just salty at the election. Now its just... what the fuck? | ||
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FlaShFTW
United States10530 Posts
monkaS | ||
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TheTenthDoc
United States9561 Posts
On November 06 2020 13:29 FlaShFTW wrote: https://twitter.com/perez4az/status/1324559557918556161?s=20 monkaS Man, Alex is in AZ? I was hoping he'd lead the chant swapover in PA. | ||
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m4ini
4215 Posts
On November 06 2020 13:27 FlaShFTW wrote: I'm just at a loss of words right now. At first it was like, ok hes just salty at the election. Now its just... what the fuck? Simple. They're hoping that one gets accepted/counted, which then would pull the entire process into doubt. | ||
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