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Batmankills
Profile Joined February 2016
145 Posts
November 05 2020 04:18 GMT
#2781
Can anyone verify if this is true? They are saying it's not 760k outstanding ballots, its 500k

Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
November 05 2020 04:19 GMT
#2782
There are a couple medium sized Trump leaning counties still with some votes incomming in PA as well. So if we get updates from places like Cumberland County (77% reported, 61.3% of the vote going to Trump), it'll look bad for Biden. But hard to tell what update is from where specifically
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
November 05 2020 04:19 GMT
#2783
Add Arizona to the number of states Trump is going to sue for...something. But COUNT THOSE VOTES! And STOP COUNTING in Pennsylvania!
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
November 05 2020 04:21 GMT
#2784
will ballots from military make a big difference? They keep saying that those aren't counted yet in PA and they tend to lean heavily Republican as well.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10402 Posts
November 05 2020 04:21 GMT
#2785
Not entirely sure on these numbers, but also even if it's a Trump district, a lot of the Trump districts are overperforming the 2016 results that were closer, so those red counties could actually be more moderate/center than we think. Examples: Kenosha county that was +10 for Trump ended +2, Genessee in Michigan was +5 for Trump ended +10 for Biden.
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Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-11-05 04:25:53
November 05 2020 04:24 GMT
#2786
On November 05 2020 13:18 Batmankills wrote:
Can anyone verify if this is true? They are saying it's not 760k outstanding ballots, its 500k

https://twitter.com/phl43/status/1324199597628153857

the place I am looking at (NYT) says 230k votes total in york county at 97% of the votes already being counted. 77k is more than 3% of 230k. It would have to say something like 75% votes in to make it look like 77k still missing?

idk about the rest. Just looked at the 1 specific example though
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10402 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-11-05 04:28:30
November 05 2020 04:28 GMT
#2787
https://twitter.com/DecisionDeskHQ/status/1324206317058297858?s=20

Georgia new update:
Biden +3.7k
Trump +1k

78.7% gain for Biden. He's continuing to lower that gap. 29k separating.
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Starlightsun
Profile Blog Joined June 2016
United States1405 Posts
November 05 2020 04:28 GMT
#2788
On November 05 2020 12:57 Nebuchad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2020 12:52 FlaShFTW wrote:
https://twitter.com/MrDanZak/status/1324191985352220672?s=20

So... in Michigan Trump supporters are saying stop the count, in Arizona they are saying count the votes. Which one is it?


As usual, important to remind everyone that this is not hypocrisy, this is them being very honest: they want the things that benefit them regardless of principles or circumstances. It's when they pretend that they do hold to certain principles that they are being hypocritical.


I think it is hypocrisy because they are in a permanent campaign of accusing Democrats of being immoral and unprincipled. If they were simply living by "the ends justify the means" then fine, but not while sitting on the moral high donkey as the last bastion of Truth, Freedom, and Democracy. That's some hypocritical bullshit.
Stratos_speAr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States6959 Posts
November 05 2020 04:28 GMT
#2789
From 538:

I think the mail ballot situation in Pennsylvania needs a reappraisal based on info that some faithful readers pointed out to me via email. Earlier, I put together a snapshot of the situation based on data from the Pennsylvania Department of State’s mail ballot portal. But the state’s election data — the vote count — suggests that is out of date. Instead of having a little over 750,000 mail ballots to go, it looks there are actually slightly less than 500,000. That’s notable because it means that Biden has to win a higher share of mail ballots to overtake Trump than I initially realized. So based on the state’s data, Biden probably has to win around 68 percent of the outstanding ballots to win statewide by a hair, not 62 percent. To be clear, that’s quite possible — nearly a quarter of the mail ballots left to count are in Philadelphia proper, where Biden has won 93 percent of mail ballots counted so far. And he’s won more than 60 percent of the mail ballots in some counties where he won less than 30 percent of the overall vote, so even Republican-leaning areas aren’t necessarily bad news for Biden. But the point is, it could be a closer-run thing than the earlier analysis suggested.
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iPlaY.NettleS
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Australia4416 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-11-05 04:31:14
November 05 2020 04:29 GMT
#2790
On November 05 2020 12:22 TheTenthDoc wrote:
Personally, I welcome recounts. The more data we can get about how much impact they can actually have on election results, the better. Someday we might even tweak the recount margins to be more sane instead of allowing them in cases where obviously nothing will change...

If the margin is within 0.5% then by state law there can be a recount, so I'm not sure what shingi's issue with it is.Georgia appears headed for a recount.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7PvoI6gvQs
Batmankills
Profile Joined February 2016
145 Posts
November 05 2020 04:29 GMT
#2791
On November 05 2020 13:24 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2020 13:18 Batmankills wrote:
Can anyone verify if this is true? They are saying it's not 760k outstanding ballots, its 500k

https://twitter.com/phl43/status/1324199597628153857

the place I am looking at (NYT) says 230k votes total in york county at 97% of the votes already being counted. 77k is more than 3% of 230k. It would have to say something like 75% votes in to make it look like 77k still missing?

idk about the rest. Just looked at the 1 specific example though


yeah. seems like some difference between what reporters are reporting and actual data
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32747 Posts
November 05 2020 04:30 GMT
#2792
On November 05 2020 13:28 Stratos_speAr wrote:
From 538:

Show nested quote +
I think the mail ballot situation in Pennsylvania needs a reappraisal based on info that some faithful readers pointed out to me via email. Earlier, I put together a snapshot of the situation based on data from the Pennsylvania Department of State’s mail ballot portal. But the state’s election data — the vote count — suggests that is out of date. Instead of having a little over 750,000 mail ballots to go, it looks there are actually slightly less than 500,000. That’s notable because it means that Biden has to win a higher share of mail ballots to overtake Trump than I initially realized. So based on the state’s data, Biden probably has to win around 68 percent of the outstanding ballots to win statewide by a hair, not 62 percent. To be clear, that’s quite possible — nearly a quarter of the mail ballots left to count are in Philadelphia proper, where Biden has won 93 percent of mail ballots counted so far. And he’s won more than 60 percent of the mail ballots in some counties where he won less than 30 percent of the overall vote, so even Republican-leaning areas aren’t necessarily bad news for Biden. But the point is, it could be a closer-run thing than the earlier analysis suggested.

Wow, this really complicates things. Trump isn't done yet.
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FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10402 Posts
November 05 2020 04:31 GMT
#2793
So Biden needs 70/30 to win PA now basically, I think that's more than doable. Philly is gonna be at least 80/20.
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TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-11-05 04:34:21
November 05 2020 04:31 GMT
#2794
On November 05 2020 13:29 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2020 12:22 TheTenthDoc wrote:
Personally, I welcome recounts. The more data we can get about how much impact they can actually have on election results, the better. Someday we might even tweak the recount margins to be more sane instead of allowing them in cases where obviously nothing will change...

If the margin is within 0.5% then by state law there can be a recount, so what's the issue.Georgia appears headed for a recount.


Mostly I just don't see why the margins are so large. Recounts are costly and don't overturn 0.5% margins, so it's a pretty weird and aggressive cutpoint to have in so many states (let alone 1%); I could see as high as 0.3% but not much more than that.
Anc13nt
Profile Blog Joined October 2017
1557 Posts
November 05 2020 04:34 GMT
#2795
feel like they called arizona way too early
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10402 Posts
November 05 2020 04:35 GMT
#2796
On November 05 2020 13:34 Anc13nt wrote:
feel like they called arizona way too early

I do too, but mainly we're gonna be waiting on that big 9pm PST dump in 30 minutes. That will tell us everything we need to know. If the dump comes out 55/45 Trump, Biden can breath a sigh of relief. Anything more than that and it becomes a nailbiter.
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vult
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States9400 Posts
November 05 2020 04:38 GMT
#2797
Yeah PA is the only state that matters at this point. Trump has to win to even stay in it, and if he wins he can lose GA or AZ and be ok...

This is insanely close.
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TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
November 05 2020 04:38 GMT
#2798
Fulton County apparently dropping some nuclear bombs on Trump's Georgia lead...down to the wire indeed.
Stratos_speAr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States6959 Posts
November 05 2020 04:39 GMT
#2799
On November 05 2020 13:38 vult wrote:
Yeah PA is the only state that matters at this point. Trump has to win to even stay in it, and if he wins he can lose GA or AZ and be ok...

This is insanely close.


This is incorrect.

Trump needs to win PA + NV or AZ to win.
A sound mind in a sound body, is a short, but full description of a happy state in this World: he that has these two, has little more to wish for; and he that wants either of them, will be little the better for anything else.
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10402 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-11-05 04:42:19
November 05 2020 04:40 GMT
#2800
https://twitter.com/BrendanKeefe/status/1324207280443793409?s=20

THE BIG BLUE DUMP IS HERE

Big dump for Biden, erases over half the deficit with 79.6% going to Biden, well above the 66% needed
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