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Zambrah
United States7393 Posts
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StasisField
United States1086 Posts
On November 05 2020 08:22 Shingi11 wrote: Polls are dead to me dont talk about those abominations lol. For real though the rust belt seems incredibly moderate. Bernie definitely had some people more excited but I think the net lost of people who are scared of the big bad socialist is too great. I think Bernie could have dodged the big bad socialist label a bit better if he had branded himself as an FDR Democrat rather than a Democratic Socialist in 2016 and a straight up Socialist in 2020. People seem to be forgetting that Trump ran on "Socialist" (at least for America) positions in 2016. For example, he promised to enact public Healthcare and he made that statement before he received the Republican nomination. These big bad socialist ideas are not the big boogie man that people think it is. | ||
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Shingi11
290 Posts
On November 05 2020 08:14 m4ini wrote: No. As usual, you're misrepresenting what Trump said. He didn't incite violence. He didn't mean it the way you make it out to be. Media is spinning. Post is fake. He's just trolling. Now that the typical trumpet doesn't need to justify this behaviour anymore, we can go into detail as to how fucked up this message really is. Tell me witch party was driving around in armed convoys trying to intimate votes and disrupt rallies and then get back to me on what is fucked up | ||
FlaShFTW
United States10584 Posts
Nate Cohn is anticipating Biden to win by 2 points in PA | ||
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m4ini
4215 Posts
On November 05 2020 08:29 Shingi11 wrote: Tell me witch party was driving around in armed convoys trying to intimate votes and disrupt rallies and then get back to me on what is fucked up .. woosh. | ||
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Zambrah
United States7393 Posts
On November 05 2020 08:29 StasisField wrote: I think Bernie could have dodged the big bad socialist label a bit better if he had branded himself as an FDR Democrat rather than a Democratic Socialist in 2016 and a straight up Socialist in 2020. People seem to be forgetting that Trump ran on "Socialist" (at least for America) positions in 2016. For example, he promised to enact public Healthcare and he made that statement before he received the Republican nomination. These big bad socialist ideas are not the big boogie man that people think it is. Yeah I’d like to see that used more. It’s all in the vein of breaking complex ideas down into digestible parts for Americans. A young FDR Democrat would be a good way to go next election. Not Kamala Harris. | ||
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Nebuchad
Switzerland12598 Posts
On November 05 2020 08:29 StasisField wrote: I think Bernie could have dodged the big bad socialist label a bit better if he had branded himself as an FDR Democrat rather than a Democratic Socialist in 2016 and a straight up Socialist in 2020. People seem to be forgetting that Trump ran on "Socialist" (at least for America) positions in 2016. For example, he promised to enact public Healthcare and he made that statement before he received the Republican nomination. These big bad socialist ideas are not the big boogie man that people think it is. In a few years socialism will do just fine, so it's not that bad to get ahead. It probably cut the amount of time needed for the branding to become fine. Also, we want leftism to win, not "Democrats", so if Democrats can't ever do a leftism because that means they'll lose then them winning does nothing for us. | ||
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farvacola
United States18870 Posts
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KwarK
United States44398 Posts
On November 05 2020 08:27 Cricketer12 wrote: Wild. This should be a lesson, ballot tallying needs to be addressed. There really is no excuse for this The excuse is that they don’t know when the last ballot that was cast before the cutoff will arrive for counting. That’s why there are months before inauguration. It was never meant to be done in a night. NC is doing it properly. They’re one of the few. | ||
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KOFgokuon
United States14912 Posts
On November 05 2020 08:27 Cricketer12 wrote: Wild. This should be a lesson, ballot tallying needs to be addressed. There really is no excuse for this Ballots can still arrive until nov 12. It has nothing to do with an inability to count the ballots, they just aren’t going to continue to dribble out results until they’re finished | ||
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FlaShFTW
United States10584 Posts
However, the difference has been the more urban counties where Biden has dramatically increased turnout and support. When you break it down like that, Trump's wins by less than a few percentages points in the rust belt allowed Biden to come in and override the red rural wave and build blue pillars in those urban counties. He ended up with 20k more votes in Milwaukee, 100k from the blue counties in Michigan. And with the remaining vote in PA and GA being those blue cities, the chances of Biden flipping both blue gets more and more likely with no rural counties to be counted. | ||
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TheTenthDoc
United States9561 Posts
On November 05 2020 08:35 KwarK wrote: The excuse is that they don’t know when the last ballot that was cast before the cutoff will arrive for counting. That’s why there are months before inauguration. It was never meant to be done in a night. NC is doing it properly. They’re one of the few. Yeah, it's not like this is surprising. If your election laws say ballots can come in until date X, and you do the final count on date X, you'll only get a final count on date X. Fortunately it (hopefully) will not matter in the presidential election, and I can't see Cunningham making a comeback. Though it would suck if we had to wait for PA to come completely back to Biden. | ||
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Shingi11
290 Posts
Did I miss the sarcasm cause if I did I am sorry. | ||
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LegalLord
United States13779 Posts
On November 05 2020 08:09 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: ![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/X8ZbyrZ.jpg) Wow. Wtf. I assume the “second amendment people” are going to try to do something about this, sooner or later. | ||
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darthfoley
United States8004 Posts
On November 05 2020 08:07 BisuDagger wrote: As someone who didn’t vote for Trump in this election, I would have voted for him over Bernie without hesitation. I vehemently disagree with his policies to solve problems with massive taxes and give things for free. At least with Biden, I see him taking his time approaching far left policy decisions or best case scenario being a lame duck president. All I can say is wow | ||
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RenSC2
United States1099 Posts
On November 05 2020 08:37 Shingi11 wrote: Did I miss the sarcasm cause if I did I am sorry. Yes, he was being sarcastic. Unfortunately, that is a hot-take that a few people might stop by to make non-sarcastically, so it's hard to tell if you don't recognize the poster at least a little. | ||
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TheTenthDoc
United States9561 Posts
Indeed, what's sinking Trump in PA is that there's been basically no chaos in the mail-in ballots whatsoever. | ||
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m4ini
4215 Posts
On November 05 2020 08:37 Shingi11 wrote: Did I miss the sarcasm cause if I did I am sorry. Yep. I did assume that if i just play down all the stereotypical answers that trumpets sing whenever trump says/does something incredibly moronic, it'd be hyperbole enough to be immediately seen as sarcasm. Reviewing it, well.. i should've probably /s'd it. Point was: "insert shallow/nonsensical trump apologist meme here" - now that that's out of the way we can argue how fucked up it is (and by that i mean incredibly fucked up). | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States24438 Posts
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Cricketer12
United States14003 Posts
On November 05 2020 08:35 KwarK wrote: The excuse is that they don’t know when the last ballot that was cast before the cutoff will arrive for counting. That’s why there are months before inauguration. It was never meant to be done in a night. NC is doing it properly. They’re one of the few. Yeah, my point is they should cut off mail in deadline, and start counting early so 100% reported can occur on election night | ||
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