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On November 14 2022 01:09 evilfatsh1t wrote:

i know this wasnt a response to me, but based on the incoherency of your response to me + the incoherency in this post, i can only assume that you are drunk at the time of posting. ill give you the benefit of the doubt.

On November 13 2022 14:34 JimmiC wrote:
I claim it was not censored because I found it 5 seconds and you easily watched it. I did not wat it for the ssme reason i did not read most of yout post no interst and you got so much fatally wrong right off the hop.

On November 14 2022 01:46 JimmiC wrote:

There was never a moment where you could not see the video. Do you know why it was pulled? Was it that they were breaking terms of service and using bots to up viewer numbers? (Could be no one is watching the other video, even these really upset people) Was it trademark? Was it that it makes a bunch of bold lies? The last one is what people here have determined as fact. I think (notice how unlike the others I don't say know) it is another reason.

And back to library example, no one is missing out on seeing this video that wants too. What is there to be mad about? I never claimed I put a ton of effort into this, I was pointing no one who is actually mad about it did, in fact they put in less then me since it took me 5 seconds to find the video that was "censored".

Edit: The whole schtick is that there is all this information about how bad vaccines are that "they" are keeping people from seeing. This video is super accessible, people on this thread who are super into this sort of stuff couldn't even bother to watch it all because I'm guessing it was that bad. This video taken down, for any of a number reasons, is better for the cause, then it being up, because now it can be pretended that "they" did and there was actually all this good information that can not be seen. None of that is true.

To censor is to " to examine in order to suppress" the video is not suppressed. (Suppress: keep from being publicly known)

Now this company makes full revenue and even asks for donations on their site.

On November 14 2022 01:09 evilfatsh1t wrote:

so youre tripling down on a random mirror being proof that the video isnt censored? you are something special.
you laughed at its view count and lack of comments and youre wondering why that particular video hasnt been taken down yet? who do you think moderates youtube? deepmind? the people at youtube probably dont even know that particular mirror even exists. that doesnt mean they wouldnt try to take it down if they knew, as they already have with the original. your argument that a mirror simply existing on the platform is evidence that the video isnt being censored is ridiculous. i would have expected a more intelligent position from someone like you.

the webarchive link works. this has already been stated in the thread. no shit the actual youtube link isnt going to work, the video has been removed from the platform.

you would know if you watched the video. again, if youre not even going to bother to check the video in question why are you even commenting on the issue of censorship.

wtf does this have to do with anything? is this even aimed at me? i dunno where conservatives, victimhood and all the other stupid shit in this paragraph comes to relevance. im actually confused

as for the china analogy. i think the analogy is still good. something doesnt have to be difficult to find for it to be censored. censorship also does not exclusively apply to situations where the repercussions are jail time. the very fact that someone has attempted to suppress you is censorship, no matter how hard or easy they made it or how successful they were. youtube has clearly attempted to stop its users from watching the video. so yes, your logic that a single mirror still being found on youtube doesnt amount to censorship is like saying a cnn newspaper found in china is proof that cnn isnt censored in china.


i know this wasnt a response to me, but based on the incoherency of your response to me + the incoherency in this post, i can only assume that you are drunk at the time of posting. ill give you the benefit of the doubt.

On November 14 2022 07:05 BlackJack wrote:


That's funny because I often used to give him the benefit of the doubt and assume he was drunk posting. But his posts seem to have similar quality regardless of when he makes them so unless he walks around smashed 24/7 I don't think that's it.

But there has to be some explanation for his writing style. Take this response he made to you



Not only is nearly every other word misspelled but it's a run-on sentence with callous disregard for punctuation. The only two logical conclusions here are A) He actually thinks this is a well constructed post or B) He can't be courteous enough to take 5 seconds to proofread his posts so that we don't have to read dog slobber. Either way it's a waste of time responding to him not matter how frustrating it is to not challenge someone that believes that mirrored videos aren't a thing.

His entire MO is the same as Serm's - bait people into these giant flamewars with long posts of verbal diarrhea that nobody reads. Then you get assigned equal blame for "shitting up the thread." Usually he finds one favorite poster that he wants to go back and forth and harasses them to try to bait them into an argument. He did this with JimmyJRaynor, with me, someone else mentioned GreenHorizons. Eventually the other poster learns to ignore him or the mods have to separate them. I've been ignoring his posts for months but he still responds to mine or launches insults in an attempt to bait me. Then his other schtick is to call you a whiner or a victim for not wanting to put up with this bullshit.

Anyway the point of this post is to warn you to not get roped into his nonsense.

On November 14 2022 12:55 JimmiC wrote:

Or your take is not obectively correct, hard as that maybe for you to believe.

On November 14 2022 07:40 WombaT wrote:

Not being able to see this particular video, and not being able to easily see this video are two different things.

In terms of how the content delivery pipeline works, something with 900k views and tons of engagement is considerably more accessible to those who don’t already know it exists. It’ll pop up in suggestions of people digging around similar topics, versus not registering there.

I couldn’t be arsed watching it because I have zero interest in what emanates from the ‘skeptic’ corner of the internet, I have no opinion on the content.

But the question is whether it’s judicious to censor it or not, as to whether it happened or not seems 100% cut and dry. For whatever reason that may be.

If I was sufficiently driven I could find anything, government secrets, hell thru to child pornography. Being able to find something doesn’t mean it’s not censored

On November 14 2022 14:31 BlackJack wrote:
I actually give credit to WombaT here. Not because it’s particularly difficult to challenge someone that’s literally arguing “I found a mirror with a small fraction of views as the original therefore it wasn’t suppressed.” But simply because I wasn’t expecting anyone to say anything.

On November 14 2022 12:24 evilfatsh1t wrote:
so you guys dont say a word about jimmic's dumb take on censorship because....you owe him your allegiance for other times you have been on the same "side"?
and then the moment your favourite opponent says a word you jump at the opportunity to respond to him whilst completely ignoring the subject matter?

yeah my respect for a lot of people in this thread is going down pretty fast. so far the only one who had the balls to call jimmi out was wombat. everyone else that was generally on good terms with jimmi must have coincidentally stopped reading the thread recently.

On November 14 2022 15:22 Razyda wrote:
On separate topic:

https://www.bib.bund.de/Publikation/2022/Fertility-declines-near-the-end-of-the-COVID-19-pandemic-Evidence-of-the-2022-birth-declines-in-Germany-and-Sweden.html

Fertility declines near the end of the COVID-19 pandemic: Evidence of the 2022 birth declines in Germany and Sweden

This is from Federal Institute for Population Research of German government and title is somewhat self explaining.

What significant about it is this:

" There is no association of the fertility trends with changes in unemployment, infection rates, or COVID-19 deaths. However, there is a strong association between the onset of vaccination programmes and the fertility decline nine months after of this onset"

"Common explanations of fertility change during the pandemic do not apply in its aftermath"

While they stop short from blaming vaccine itself for this and provide other possible reasons, this is (to my knowledge) so far harshest statement regarding vaccine from any official government agency.

The association between the onset of mass vaccinations and subsequent fertility decline indicates that people adjusted their behaviour to get vaccinated before becoming pregnant, as societies were opening up with post-pandemic life conditions.

In some cases, there may have been a more direct effect of the vaccination programme as such, as some prospective parents may have postponed a decision to have another child until after securing a vaccination for themselves.

On November 14 2022 12:24 evilfatsh1t wrote:
so you guys dont say a word about jimmic's dumb take on censorship because....you owe him your allegiance for other times you have been on the same "side"?
and then the moment your favourite opponent says a word you jump at the opportunity to respond to him whilst completely ignoring the subject matter?

yeah my respect for a lot of people in this thread is going down pretty fast. so far the only one who had the balls to call jimmi out was wombat. everyone else that was generally on good terms with jimmi must have coincidentally stopped reading the thread recently.