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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44345 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-01-05 20:48:10
December 28 2019 14:19 GMT
#1
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Games Done Quick is a series of charity video game marathons. These events feature high-level play by speedrunners raising money for charity. Games Done Quick has teamed up with several charities throughout its history, such as Doctors Without Borders and the Prevent Cancer Foundation. Millions of dollars have been donated to great charities, thanks to the GDQ speedrunning marathons, and many prizes have been awarded to those who donate!

Here is the main website for Games Done Quick: https://gamesdonequick.com/

Awesome Games Done Quick is the annual GDQ marathon performed in the winter, while Summer Games Done Quick is the annual GDQ marathon performed in the summer. This year, AGDQ is from Sunday, Jan. 5th to Sunday, Jan. 12th.

Here is the schedule of all the AGDQ 2020 games that will have speedruns, along with the tentative dates and times that the runs will start, names of the runners, expected run durations, and more: https://gamesdonequick.com/schedule

MAIN STREAM: https://www.twitch.tv/gamesdonequick

Non-English streams:
Spanish Stream
French Stream
(If more appear, please let me know and I'll add them here!)

DONATE HERE: https://gamesdonequick.com/tracker/ui/donate/agdq2020

AGDQ 2020 VODs:
https://www.reddit.com/r/speedrun/comments/ek9zmz/agdq_vod_thread_2020/

All GDQ VODs:
https://www.youtube.com/user/gamesdonequick/playlists

Please watch, enjoy, and donate!

"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
January 03 2020 13:00 GMT
#2
Wow, loads of new titles I've not seen before, and that Megaman relay could look like a clusterfuck. Still enough oldies but goodies to keep me interested, the downside is all the Mario titles being on when I'm asleep lol. Guess I'll have to keep an eye on the VOD list.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44345 Posts
January 04 2020 21:26 GMT
#3
This starts tomorrow! I'm particularly excited for the following runs:

Sunday: A Hat In Time, Super Mario Bros. 3, The Legend Of Zelda: Skyward Sword

Monday: Bomberman Hero, Chameleon Twist 2, Donkey Kong Country 3

Tuesday: Ninja Gaiden 2: The Dark Sword Of Chaos, Pokémon Sapphire, The Legend Of Zelda Series Relay

Wednesday: Final Fantasy 8, Super Monkey Ball, The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina Of Time, Cadence Of Hyrule

Thursday: Jak 2, Fire Emblem: Three Houses

Friday: VVVVVV, Celeste, Pokémon X/Y, The Legend Of Zelda: The Wind Waker, Super Mario 64 Randomizer

Saturday: Super Mario World, The Legend Of Zelda: A Link To The Past Randomizer, Untitled Goose Game, Super Mario Maker 2, Super Metroid Impossible
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
11841 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-01-05 08:34:11
January 05 2020 08:32 GMT
#4
We have such different tastes. The games you talk about are probably fun but the majority of them I'll never give a shot unless it is the run of the event.

I am more interested in random stuff such as Star Wars - Escape from Yavin 4: The Lost Maps and Tetrisphere.

Maybe some nice FPS in Doom. Sadly RPGs generally suck in speed running since half the thing or more is the plot and atmosphere. Fun to watch to see how they break it if you know the game, not much fun otherwise.

Things that are execution heavy in playing the game instead of frame perfect skipping it could probably be fun to watch more than one of. Bayonetta 2 and Ninja Gaiden II being examples of that.

Might watch Fire Emblem: Three Houses since I recently played it. Don't really like the Fire Emblem speed runs though, same problem as with RPGs for me. Added on that it is a problem solving genre and seeing the solution isn't as fun as finding it.

Generally speaking I guess I am not very much into speed runs but tune in a bit here and there.
greenelve
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1392 Posts
January 05 2020 16:03 GMT
#5
Here we go again!
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Sbrubbles
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil5776 Posts
January 05 2020 16:43 GMT
#6
5 fallout games in 2 hours is gonna be sweet.
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Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
11841 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-01-05 22:34:26
January 05 2020 22:34 GMT
#7
He kind of self-destructed during Star Wars - Escape from Yavin 4: The Lost Maps. Still fun run and interesting game.
RedW4rr10r
Profile Joined January 2010
Switzerland746 Posts
January 06 2020 03:36 GMT
#8
A very good friend of mind, ByteMe, is going to do a DOOM (2016) Nightmare 100% run at ADGQ this Monday 6th, 9:17 pm EDT (= Tuesday 7th, 03:17 am CET)
I will be on the couch for him for commentary alongside KingDime (a classic doom Speedrunner legend) as well as Bryonator who also is a big Speedrunner.
Rip & Tear until it is done!
Battleship789
Profile Joined March 2010
United States415 Posts
January 06 2020 04:02 GMT
#9
On January 06 2020 12:36 RedW4rr10r wrote:
A very good friend of mind, ByteMe, is going to do a DOOM (2016) Nightmare 100% run at ADGQ this Monday 6th, 9:17 pm EDT (= Tuesday 7th, 03:17 am CET)
I will be on the couch for him for commentary alongside KingDime (a classic doom Speedrunner legend) as well as Bryonator who also is a big Speedrunner.

Nice! I am looking forward to this run quite a bit. The previous DOOM 2016 runs have been any% so basically all the combat was skipped. I hope the 100% has a bit more fighting!
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
January 06 2020 04:10 GMT
#10
no awful games? i like awful games section the most
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goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44127 Posts
January 06 2020 04:34 GMT
#11
Been a long time since ive watch agdq.

Excited for the DOOM, FF8 and TLOUS run
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44345 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-01-06 04:56:01
January 06 2020 04:54 GMT
#12
On January 05 2020 17:32 Yurie wrote:
We have such different tastes. The games you talk about are probably fun but the majority of them I'll never give a shot unless it is the run of the event.

I am more interested in random stuff such as Star Wars - Escape from Yavin 4: The Lost Maps and Tetrisphere.

Maybe some nice FPS in Doom. Sadly RPGs generally suck in speed running since half the thing or more is the plot and atmosphere. Fun to watch to see how they break it if you know the game, not much fun otherwise.

Things that are execution heavy in playing the game instead of frame perfect skipping it could probably be fun to watch more than one of. Bayonetta 2 and Ninja Gaiden II being examples of that.

Might watch Fire Emblem: Three Houses since I recently played it. Don't really like the Fire Emblem speed runs though, same problem as with RPGs for me. Added on that it is a problem solving genre and seeing the solution isn't as fun as finding it.

Generally speaking I guess I am not very much into speed runs but tune in a bit here and there.


A lot of my favorite games to watch are ones I grew up playing, so that my experiences of learning how to play them (through practice and frustration) and thinking that I'm decent at them turns into awe and being super impressed at the speedrunners who have truly perfected the techniques and shortcuts needed to master the games. It's harder for me to truly have a mind = blown appreciation for a game that I'm really unfamiliar with, although the couch commentators often times do a really good job of explaining things and building hype, and I always try to watch all the VODs so that I can give every game and speedrunner a fair chance

On January 06 2020 12:36 RedW4rr10r wrote:
A very good friend of mind, ByteMe, is going to do a DOOM (2016) Nightmare 100% run at ADGQ this Monday 6th, 9:17 pm EDT (= Tuesday 7th, 03:17 am CET)
I will be on the couch for him for commentary alongside KingDime (a classic doom Speedrunner legend) as well as Bryonator who also is a big Speedrunner.


Good luck to you, the rest of the commentary couch, and ByteMe!
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
RedW4rr10r
Profile Joined January 2010
Switzerland746 Posts
January 06 2020 07:05 GMT
#13
Thanks for the nice responses!
I just saw that the DOOM 2016 run has been postponed by about an hour. New time is:
Jan 6th, 10:26pm EDT (Jan 7th, 4:26am CET)
https://gamesdonequick.com/schedule
Rip & Tear until it is done!
RedW4rr10r
Profile Joined January 2010
Switzerland746 Posts
January 06 2020 07:21 GMT
#14
On January 06 2020 13:02 Battleship789 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2020 12:36 RedW4rr10r wrote:
A very good friend of mind, ByteMe, is going to do a DOOM (2016) Nightmare 100% run at ADGQ this Monday 6th, 9:17 pm EDT (= Tuesday 7th, 03:17 am CET)
I will be on the couch for him for commentary alongside KingDime (a classic doom Speedrunner legend) as well as Bryonator who also is a big Speedrunner.

Nice! I am looking forward to this run quite a bit. The previous DOOM 2016 runs have been any% so basically all the combat was skipped. I hope the 100% has a bit more fighting!

Yeah, DOOM (2016) 100% consists of pure combat, at least from level 3 onwards because of “Combat Rating” which tracks killed demons. However, this allows us to skip a few fights in the first two levels. Also, there will be no out of bounds or Rail Boosts etc. (or in general what I refer to as “any% tech”).
Rip & Tear until it is done!
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22208 Posts
January 06 2020 10:06 GMT
#15
On January 06 2020 13:10 BLinD-RawR wrote:
no awful games? i like awful games section the most

are you sure? i see a block of games on thursday that look terrible.
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Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
11841 Posts
January 06 2020 10:54 GMT
#16
The scooter game earlier today was pretty horrible.
RedW4rr10r
Profile Joined January 2010
Switzerland746 Posts
January 06 2020 14:19 GMT
#17
Btw, last SGDQ KingDime did a speedrun for Protoss brood war campaign. The VOD is definitely worth watching (can’t link it right now)
Rip & Tear until it is done!
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
11841 Posts
January 06 2020 15:23 GMT
#18
On January 06 2020 23:19 RedW4rr10r wrote:
Btw, last SGDQ KingDime did a speedrun for Protoss brood war campaign. The VOD is definitely worth watching (can’t link it right now)

RedW4rr10r
Profile Joined January 2010
Switzerland746 Posts
January 06 2020 16:52 GMT
#19
On January 07 2020 00:23 Yurie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2020 23:19 RedW4rr10r wrote:
Btw, last SGDQ KingDime did a speedrun for Protoss brood war campaign. The VOD is definitely worth watching (can’t link it right now)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dI-R0qVvg4

Thank you!
Also, the schedule changes once again. The DOOM run is scheduled to 9:59 EDT now (3:59 CET). Better check the schedule yourself for any runs you want to watch.
https://gamesdonequick.com/schedule

I would love to share some pictures from here but it keeps telling me files are too large (I am on phone only)
Rip & Tear until it is done!
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44345 Posts
January 06 2020 19:33 GMT
#20
On January 07 2020 01:52 RedW4rr10r wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2020 00:23 Yurie wrote:
On January 06 2020 23:19 RedW4rr10r wrote:
Btw, last SGDQ KingDime did a speedrun for Protoss brood war campaign. The VOD is definitely worth watching (can’t link it right now)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dI-R0qVvg4

Thank you!
Also, the schedule changes once again. The DOOM run is scheduled to 9:59 EDT now (3:59 CET). Better check the schedule yourself for any runs you want to watch.
https://gamesdonequick.com/schedule

I would love to share some pictures from here but it keeps telling me files are too large (I am on phone only)


The schedule's times (thankfully) update quite often on that page, as always

Looking forward to the Doom run and eventually pictures!
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
RedW4rr10r
Profile Joined January 2010
Switzerland746 Posts
January 06 2020 23:28 GMT
#21
In case of interests for donations during the DOOM (2016) run:
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Rip & Tear until it is done!
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32740 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-01-07 00:53:52
January 07 2020 00:52 GMT
#22
Fallout speedrunner brings a diorama model to explain a bug during a cutscene downtime lmao. Already this is a good one.
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Jones313
Profile Joined April 2011
Finland172 Posts
January 07 2020 01:08 GMT
#23
On January 07 2020 09:52 PhoenixVoid wrote:
Fallout speedrunner brings a diorama model to explain a bug during a cutscene downtime lmao. Already this is a good one.


Yeah I like this guy. Definitely one of the cooler runs so far.
greenelve
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1392 Posts
January 08 2020 03:36 GMT
#24
Terraria run; or how a run can go terrible wrong yet nothing to feel negative about. What an emotional rollercoaster for badger, and already one of the most entertaining for the whole week.
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44345 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-01-09 16:29:26
January 09 2020 16:28 GMT
#25
Just hit $800,000 so far, with a pretty consistent 100K-130K concurrent viewership

Any personal favorite speedruns this week that you'd recommend?
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
greenelve
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1392 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-01-09 20:51:50
January 09 2020 20:18 GMT
#26
Terraria for all the wrong reasons kinda, but strongly entertaining. has almost anything you ask for: skill, knowledge, humor, tragedy, heart, no negative feeling at the end but just positivity (almost got a 500 dollar donation train running >.>)

Awfulgames, escpecially Animorphs und following Super Hydlide.

Fallout Anthology, one of the highlights was explaining a glitch at the beginning of fallout 4.

KingDime doing Doom Sigil, just awesome as usual and the levels just looks brutal

Mike Tyson's Punch-Out!! because 2players 1 controller both blindfolded.

All Relay Races so far

Mushihime-sama Futari 1.01, highly skill recommendation and the runner was so pumped with adrenaline after playing the whole game (understandable, if you have played bullet hell yourself)

OoT 100% no source. absolute insane glitch happens here. and zfg is doing it all in rta marathon and first try. have to see it to believe it

Last of Us: Left Behind

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Starecat
Profile Joined August 2014
938 Posts
January 10 2020 02:08 GMT
#27
That FF6 was insane.
:3
ggrrg
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Bulgaria2716 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-01-10 10:04:02
January 10 2020 10:02 GMT
#28
For me the highlights were (in no particular order):

Mushihime-sama Futari: Bullet Hell runs are extremely impressive anyway - even more so when played on the highest difficulty. But this run had a handful of hiccups and apparently the backup strategy is "just do the impossible". Extremely intense final minutes and you could feel the tension emminating from the couch.

Terraria: The run was an emotional roller coaster.

OoT 100% no source: This is the epitome of a speed run for me: I only watched half of it including the ultra broken glitch (accomplished first try btw!), but it felt like the entire thing was just a non-stop glitch fest. Apparently, not only doors are a suggestion in OoT but simply everything. It was also pretty impressive to see what a 100% run looks in 2020 compared to AGDQ 2013 done in 3 hours less.

Mike Tyson's Punch-Out!!: 2 players, 1 controller, blindfolded... finished in half the estimated time...

Sonic the Hedgehog (2006) (Silver's Story No MSG%): I don't think I have ever heard the phrase "frame perfect" being mentioned this often.


Other runs I enjoyed:

Star Wars - Escape from Yavin 4: The Lost Maps (Any% no VRGI): CovertMuffin simply makes every run a fun experience to watch.

Super Mario Bros. 3 (100% race): close and exciting race

Ghouls 'n Ghosts (Any% Race): Another nice race
rotta
Profile Joined December 2011
5588 Posts
January 10 2020 13:52 GMT
#29
Fallout and Ocarina have been my favourites so far, I knew those games were super broken but my mind was still blown.

The Ganbare Goemon, Rockman 4-6, Daimakaimura and Ninja Ryukenden II races were also really cool!
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Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
January 10 2020 14:21 GMT
#30
My top shortlist: SMB3, Terraria, Ocarina, FF8. Also enjoyed Doom.
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RedW4rr10r
Profile Joined January 2010
Switzerland746 Posts
January 10 2020 14:51 GMT
#31
Here are three pictures I picked up from Twitter in regards with the DOOM (2016) run. Sadly, the ones from my phone seem to be too large to upload to TL, so I’ll do that when I’m back home in the cold in Germany.
Also, uploading pics and editing the post on my phone is a bit PITA xD

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The runner himself: ByteMe
From left to right: Bryonato, BloodThunder, KingDime and myself, RedW4rr10r
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Rip & Tear until it is done!
bLzPostman
Profile Joined September 2011
New Zealand82 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-01-10 20:39:15
January 10 2020 20:38 GMT
#32
Really liking the X/Y Pokemon run. With the endless puns and the surprise entrance of a Pineapple its been a hilarious run.
Uldridge
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium4782 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-01-11 02:12:05
January 11 2020 02:11 GMT
#33
This Wind waker run is absolutely insane.
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greenelve
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1392 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-01-12 04:47:59
January 12 2020 04:39 GMT
#34
As a german, i approve the Links Awakening run.
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44345 Posts
January 12 2020 12:13 GMT
#35
3.1 million dollars
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Nyovne
Profile Joined March 2006
Netherlands19135 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-01-12 14:51:14
January 12 2020 14:47 GMT
#36
Had to stop watching on principle after I saw that radical left progressives permeate this great event as well. I had to struggle to believe what I saw when people got banned in chat for asking certain questions, that multiple runners were banned for political differences after having travelled to the event, and people were forcefully removed or bullied from the audience for similar reasons.

Absolutely disgusting. Sad to see a great event for a great cause get dragged into the political mire by the usual radicals that have to politicize everything they touch.
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TheNewEra
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany3128 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-01-12 17:55:00
January 12 2020 16:50 GMT
#37
On January 12 2020 23:47 Nyovne wrote:
Had to stop watching on principle after I saw that radical left progressives permeate this great event as well. I had to struggle to believe what I saw when people got banned in chat for asking certain questions,

You know they always say "I got banned for asking questions" but it usually was some vile shit like "why are n****** and f****** allowed to run at this event?". Usually it's that kinda thing and never something harmless.
And yes accidents happen. And that sucks but those usually get revoked pretty fast by GDQ.


that multiple runners were banned for political differences after having travelled to the event

Examples please. Afaik only around ~20-25 people are banned from GDQs at all and most of them are due to harassing runners/audience/mods or actual criminal conduct like trespassing at the hotel, distribution of drugs or sexual harassment.

The only 2 people who I can remember claiming to have been banned for political reasons are Cyberdemon and PvtCb. And everyone who has been involved in the speedrunning community beyond watching 2 GDQs each year knows that these 2 really should not be your example.

There are some submission bans I disagree with or disagreed with in the past but even the whole general "Everyone gets banned from GDQ" thing is a overdone meme by people who want to shit on GDQ without having any clue about the event bar some reddit threads.

Absolutely disgusting. Sad to see a great event for a great cause get dragged into the political mire by the usual radicals that have to politicize everything they touch.


By the usual radicals? That's just the way things have to go when they go big and hit mainstream audiences. When your event get's so big you can't have a chat shouting racist shit whenever an afroamerican person just walks throw the stream. You need to put out a product that appeals to your casual decent human being.

And tbh it seems to work. Personally I too would appreciate it if the events would be a tad bit less sanitized but in the end some of the best GDQs have been some of the last ones so I'm not going to complain about it an awful lot when they put out great event after great event.

The vast majority of people still seem to like GDQ. Even the ones who are watching since 2013 and earlier. The speedrunning community overall still loves it as does the general audience. It's always just a certain minority who can't handle it anymore. So maybe it's you who is the problem and not GDQ
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44345 Posts
January 12 2020 19:13 GMT
#38
On January 12 2020 23:47 Nyovne wrote:
Had to stop watching on principle after I saw that radical left progressives permeate this great event as well. I had to struggle to believe what I saw when people got banned in chat for asking certain questions, that multiple runners were banned for political differences after having travelled to the event, and people were forcefully removed or bullied from the audience for similar reasons.

Absolutely disgusting. Sad to see a great event for a great cause get dragged into the political mire by the usual radicals that have to politicize everything they touch.


Can you please give some examples with sources? What kinds of questions? What kinds of beliefs? There are plenty of questions and beliefs that are absolutely banworthy or at least inappropriate, so you're gonna need to be more specific.

Furthermore, it comes off as a little hypocritical that you're defending people for apparently being political on a speedrunning-for-charity marathon that should probably remain apolitical, yet upset when others retaliate based on their own politics. How is it the fault of the "radical left" for retaliating or regulating the event when another partisan group (presumably, the right?) tries to opportunistically use this event for their own political promotions?

You can't seriously say that the left is to blame for politicizing the event, right after conceding that they were reacting to others (the right?) who started it.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Fleetfeet
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Canada2558 Posts
January 12 2020 19:47 GMT
#39
I was impressed/surprised that there were pronoun callouts for a lot of the runners (he/him), and I can see why that would worry or upset some more conservative people. Not that I think people with that mindset are right, but I don't think starting the argument of 'who started it' is terribly productive.
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28670 Posts
January 12 2020 21:01 GMT
#40
also curious what specific examples you have in mind..
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FaCE_1
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Canada6172 Posts
January 13 2020 11:28 GMT
#41
The Guitar hero clone segment was pretty crazy too.
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NrG.Bamboo
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2756 Posts
January 13 2020 20:36 GMT
#42
On January 13 2020 04:47 Fleetfeet wrote:
I was impressed/surprised that there were pronoun callouts for a lot of the runners (he/him), and I can see why that would worry or upset some more conservative people. Not that I think people with that mindset are right, but I don't think starting the argument of 'who started it' is terribly productive.

What do you mean by pronoun callout? I only watched about an hour of gameplay this year; not really sure what that phrase even means, if I'm being honest.
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Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7306 Posts
January 13 2020 20:58 GMT
#43
On January 14 2020 05:36 NrG.Bamboo wrote:
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On January 13 2020 04:47 Fleetfeet wrote:
I was impressed/surprised that there were pronoun callouts for a lot of the runners (he/him), and I can see why that would worry or upset some more conservative people. Not that I think people with that mindset are right, but I don't think starting the argument of 'who started it' is terribly productive.

What do you mean by pronoun callout? I only watched about an hour of gameplay this year; not really sure what that phrase even means, if I'm being honest.


I believe it means letting people know which pronouns they'd prefer to be referred by
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farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18828 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-01-13 21:58:40
January 13 2020 21:58 GMT
#44
The basic scenario is that a transgender person appears on stream, chat floods with folks using a pre-transition pronoun, and the stream runners have to decide what they’re going to tolerate. GDQ has a relatively large transgender following, so they’ve decided to take a harder line on pronoun use than other streams/events have.

Some folks have apparently decided that this is a tragedy of monumental proportions, which would be laughably stupid if it weren’t so dishearteningly sad.
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44345 Posts
January 13 2020 22:02 GMT
#45
Oh, so respecting people is the "disgusting politicization" of the "radical left"? I wish there was more of that.
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Fleetfeet
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Canada2558 Posts
January 13 2020 23:11 GMT
#46
On January 14 2020 05:36 NrG.Bamboo wrote:
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On January 13 2020 04:47 Fleetfeet wrote:
I was impressed/surprised that there were pronoun callouts for a lot of the runners (he/him), and I can see why that would worry or upset some more conservative people. Not that I think people with that mindset are right, but I don't think starting the argument of 'who started it' is terribly productive.

What do you mean by pronoun callout? I only watched about an hour of gameplay this year; not really sure what that phrase even means, if I'm being honest.


Basically what Farva said. In cultures accepting of transgendered people, a polite thing to do is to request a person's preferred pronouns and be respectful of that. An example would be me introducing myself in such an environment would be "My name's Geoff, He/Him."

In agdq, there was a little pronoun callout [he/him] beside the runner's name in some cases.
NrG.Bamboo
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2756 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-01-14 00:33:58
January 14 2020 00:18 GMT
#47
Oh, I've never heard that in my life; just confused me a bit. I guess that seems.. inclusive? Something about it seems forced but that might just be because of my surroundings.
The way I imagined it by the phrase was, like, "runners/couch please sound off and give your gender identity with your ID" which sounds wacky, but hey, people are complaining for SOME reason, right?
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TheNewEra
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany3128 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-01-14 00:50:53
January 14 2020 00:40 GMT
#48
On January 14 2020 09:18 NrG.Bamboo wrote:
Oh, I've never heard that in my life; just confused me a bit. I guess that seems.. inclusive? Something about it seems forced but that might just be because of my surroundings.

To note is that people, trans or just supporters, at GDQs have written their preferred pronouns unoffcially on their official cards for a long time. So it was just common courtesy to ask runners before a run: "do you want us to show your preferred pronoun, if so which".

It's just something that shouldn't hurt anyone but probably means the world to some of the runners/couch/audience/viewers.
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NrG.Bamboo
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2756 Posts
January 14 2020 00:59 GMT
#49
On January 14 2020 09:40 TheNewEra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2020 09:18 NrG.Bamboo wrote:
Oh, I've never heard that in my life; just confused me a bit. I guess that seems.. inclusive? Something about it seems forced but that might just be because of my surroundings.

To note is that people, trans or just supporters, at GDQs have written their preferred pronouns unoffcially on their official cards for a long time. So it was just common courtesy to ask runners before a run: "do you want us to show your preferred pronoun, if so which".

It's just something that shouldn't hurt anyone but probably means the world to some of the runners/couch/audience/viewers.

I see. Sorry to nitpick but I really am an ignorant fellow here, what do you mean about unofficial/official cards? As in identification? How long is a long time?
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Fleetfeet
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Canada2558 Posts
January 14 2020 02:21 GMT
#50
On January 14 2020 09:18 NrG.Bamboo wrote:
Oh, I've never heard that in my life; just confused me a bit. I guess that seems.. inclusive? Something about it seems forced but that might just be because of my surroundings.
The way I imagined it by the phrase was, like, "runners/couch please sound off and give your gender identity with your ID" which sounds wacky, but hey, people are complaining for SOME reason, right?


Haha nah, nothing so forced as making people declare their gender identities, more allowing a space where people can declare their preferred pronouns if they so choose.
TheNewEra
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany3128 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-01-14 02:35:49
January 14 2020 02:34 GMT
#51
On January 14 2020 09:59 NrG.Bamboo wrote:
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On January 14 2020 09:40 TheNewEra wrote:
On January 14 2020 09:18 NrG.Bamboo wrote:
Oh, I've never heard that in my life; just confused me a bit. I guess that seems.. inclusive? Something about it seems forced but that might just be because of my surroundings.

To note is that people, trans or just supporters, at GDQs have written their preferred pronouns unoffcially on their official cards for a long time. So it was just common courtesy to ask runners before a run: "do you want us to show your preferred pronoun, if so which".

It's just something that shouldn't hurt anyone but probably means the world to some of the runners/couch/audience/viewers.

I see. Sorry to nitpick but I really am an ignorant fellow here, what do you mean about unofficial/official cards? As in identification?

No worries. Sorry I'm not speaking in my natural language. What I meant with your official card is I guess your identification card.The kind of thing you wear on your heart to clarify who you are. Many people have said on those what their preferred pronouns are.

How long is a long time?

I've been watching for a long time but my first (out of 3) GDQs in attendance has been in 2016 and peole were already doing it at that point
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NrG.Bamboo
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2756 Posts
January 14 2020 03:19 GMT
#52
On January 14 2020 11:21 Fleetfeet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2020 09:18 NrG.Bamboo wrote:
Oh, I've never heard that in my life; just confused me a bit. I guess that seems.. inclusive? Something about it seems forced but that might just be because of my surroundings.
The way I imagined it by the phrase was, like, "runners/couch please sound off and give your gender identity with your ID" which sounds wacky, but hey, people are complaining for SOME reason, right?


Haha nah, nothing so forced as making people declare their gender identities, more allowing a space where people can declare their preferred pronouns if they so choose.

That sounds reasonable.

On January 14 2020 11:34 TheNewEra wrote:
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On January 14 2020 09:59 NrG.Bamboo wrote:
On January 14 2020 09:40 TheNewEra wrote:
On January 14 2020 09:18 NrG.Bamboo wrote:
Oh, I've never heard that in my life; just confused me a bit. I guess that seems.. inclusive? Something about it seems forced but that might just be because of my surroundings.

To note is that people, trans or just supporters, at GDQs have written their preferred pronouns unoffcially on their official cards for a long time. So it was just common courtesy to ask runners before a run: "do you want us to show your preferred pronoun, if so which".

It's just something that shouldn't hurt anyone but probably means the world to some of the runners/couch/audience/viewers.

I see. Sorry to nitpick but I really am an ignorant fellow here, what do you mean about unofficial/official cards? As in identification?

No worries. Sorry I'm not speaking in my natural language. What I meant with your official card is I guess your identification card.The kind of thing you wear on your heart to clarify who you are. Many people have said on those what their preferred pronouns are.

Show nested quote +
How long is a long time?

I've been watching for a long time but my first (out of 3) GDQs in attendance has been in 2016 and peole were already doing it at that point

No problem bud I appreciate the clarification. I don't really see what the problem is (and trust me, I would love to have a problem with this) in regards to allowing someone to say "hey please don't call me a woman" or whatever it may be.

I thought this would be juicier :|
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44345 Posts
January 14 2020 03:25 GMT
#53
On January 14 2020 12:19 NrG.Bamboo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2020 11:21 Fleetfeet wrote:
On January 14 2020 09:18 NrG.Bamboo wrote:
Oh, I've never heard that in my life; just confused me a bit. I guess that seems.. inclusive? Something about it seems forced but that might just be because of my surroundings.
The way I imagined it by the phrase was, like, "runners/couch please sound off and give your gender identity with your ID" which sounds wacky, but hey, people are complaining for SOME reason, right?


Haha nah, nothing so forced as making people declare their gender identities, more allowing a space where people can declare their preferred pronouns if they so choose.

That sounds reasonable.

Show nested quote +
On January 14 2020 11:34 TheNewEra wrote:
On January 14 2020 09:59 NrG.Bamboo wrote:
On January 14 2020 09:40 TheNewEra wrote:
On January 14 2020 09:18 NrG.Bamboo wrote:
Oh, I've never heard that in my life; just confused me a bit. I guess that seems.. inclusive? Something about it seems forced but that might just be because of my surroundings.

To note is that people, trans or just supporters, at GDQs have written their preferred pronouns unoffcially on their official cards for a long time. So it was just common courtesy to ask runners before a run: "do you want us to show your preferred pronoun, if so which".

It's just something that shouldn't hurt anyone but probably means the world to some of the runners/couch/audience/viewers.

I see. Sorry to nitpick but I really am an ignorant fellow here, what do you mean about unofficial/official cards? As in identification?

No worries. Sorry I'm not speaking in my natural language. What I meant with your official card is I guess your identification card.The kind of thing you wear on your heart to clarify who you are. Many people have said on those what their preferred pronouns are.

How long is a long time?

I've been watching for a long time but my first (out of 3) GDQs in attendance has been in 2016 and peole were already doing it at that point

No problem bud I appreciate the clarification. I don't really see what the problem is (and trust me, I would love to have a problem with this) in regards to allowing someone to say "hey please don't call me a woman" or whatever it may be.

I thought this would be juicier :|


Maybe Nyovne was thinking about something completely different, but I'm skeptical of the juiciness anyway.
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NrG.Bamboo
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2756 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-01-14 04:49:15
January 14 2020 03:41 GMT
#54
On January 14 2020 12:25 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2020 12:19 NrG.Bamboo wrote:
On January 14 2020 11:21 Fleetfeet wrote:
On January 14 2020 09:18 NrG.Bamboo wrote:
Oh, I've never heard that in my life; just confused me a bit. I guess that seems.. inclusive? Something about it seems forced but that might just be because of my surroundings.
The way I imagined it by the phrase was, like, "runners/couch please sound off and give your gender identity with your ID" which sounds wacky, but hey, people are complaining for SOME reason, right?


Haha nah, nothing so forced as making people declare their gender identities, more allowing a space where people can declare their preferred pronouns if they so choose.

That sounds reasonable.

On January 14 2020 11:34 TheNewEra wrote:
On January 14 2020 09:59 NrG.Bamboo wrote:
On January 14 2020 09:40 TheNewEra wrote:
On January 14 2020 09:18 NrG.Bamboo wrote:
Oh, I've never heard that in my life; just confused me a bit. I guess that seems.. inclusive? Something about it seems forced but that might just be because of my surroundings.

To note is that people, trans or just supporters, at GDQs have written their preferred pronouns unoffcially on their official cards for a long time. So it was just common courtesy to ask runners before a run: "do you want us to show your preferred pronoun, if so which".

It's just something that shouldn't hurt anyone but probably means the world to some of the runners/couch/audience/viewers.

I see. Sorry to nitpick but I really am an ignorant fellow here, what do you mean about unofficial/official cards? As in identification?

No worries. Sorry I'm not speaking in my natural language. What I meant with your official card is I guess your identification card.The kind of thing you wear on your heart to clarify who you are. Many people have said on those what their preferred pronouns are.

How long is a long time?

I've been watching for a long time but my first (out of 3) GDQs in attendance has been in 2016 and peole were already doing it at that point

No problem bud I appreciate the clarification. I don't really see what the problem is (and trust me, I would love to have a problem with this) in regards to allowing someone to say "hey please don't call me a woman" or whatever it may be.

I thought this would be juicier :|


Maybe Nyovne was thinking about something completely different, but I'm skeptical of the juiciness anyway.

Well, I do think that it's extremely silly for Trihex to be unable to attend. I'm not sure about SHiFT's drama details, but his ban seems odd. And, of course, PvtCb's situation seems like something I'd be worth arguing about if I weren't worried about derailing things further..

Just saying, there are a couple of bans that don't sit well with me, although I understand that a mainstream charity event needs to have a certain level of sanitation.
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Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10716 Posts
January 14 2020 07:24 GMT
#55
They are harsher than any other big event i know.

Imho this event is just boring when compared to its earlier years, which is sad and partially to blame on the above policy.
Well, it has become a safehaven for the weirdest sorts of transanything and thats fine, just not for me.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
January 14 2020 08:10 GMT
#56
Once again, the down to earth STRONG right is terrified of literally pronouns.
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44345 Posts
January 14 2020 10:00 GMT
#57
It's unfortunate that being supportive and inclusive of a frequently ostracised group is labeled as weird, boring, inappropriate, and overly political, but I'm sure it adds/keeps more viewers than it loses and it's the ethical thing to do, so it's likely a smart business decision and I definitely support it morally.

Anyways, with the exception of occasional conservative fuss, it seems like this was another hugely rewarding and helpful marathon for charity I look forward to SGDQ in the summer, to see if we can continue to break records
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Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany9235 Posts
January 14 2020 11:43 GMT
#58
On January 14 2020 16:24 Velr wrote:
They are harsher than any other big event i know.

Imho this event is just boring when compared to its earlier years, which is sad and partially to blame on the above policy.
Well, it has become a safehaven for the weirdest sorts of transanything and thats fine, just not for me.

How are the two things - the event becoming boring in your POV and it being inclusive - related?
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Starecat
Profile Joined August 2014
938 Posts
January 24 2020 13:18 GMT
#59
From all of GDQ bans the ones that I don't agree are Bonesaw, Trihex and Luzbelheim right after running FF8 this year, this makes the whole passion they showed on their run really bittersweet that he was basically pulled from the couch.
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