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Blizzard’s Official Statement:

https://news.blizzard.com/en-us/blizzard/23185888/regarding-last-weekend-s-hearthstone-grandmasters-tournament

Comment by JJR in case Blizzard tries to pull off a ninja edit:

https://tl.net/forum/general/551816-blizzard-bans-hs-pro-for-political-statement?page=27#529
Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
October 30 2019 14:48 GMT
#801
On October 30 2019 13:40 CorsairHero wrote:
First sponsor to pull out of a hearthstone tournament
Show nested quote +
Blizzard lost a big sponsor after the Hong Kong outcry: Mitsubishi

Blizzard Entertainment may be feeling the effects of its controversial ban of Hong Kong Hearthstone player Ng “Blitzchung” Wai Chung for quite some time. The company not only faced a widespread player boycott, condemnations from US lawmakers, and numerous employee walkouts over the decision, but it also lost a key sponsor of its international gaming competitions.

According to The Daily Beast, Mitsubishi decided to pull sponsorships of Blizzard e-sports events after the company banned Wai Chung for voicing support for the Hong Kong protesters in a televised post-game interview earlier this month. Reddit users first noticed the disappearance of the Mitsubishi logo during a recent Asia Pacific Hearthstone tournament, and the company confirmed its decision to pull its sponsorship to The Daily Beast.

https://www.theverge.com/2019/10/29/20939236/blizzard-china-hong-kong-protests-mitsubishi-hearthstone-ban-sponsorship-pulled

Finally some good news.
Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
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Integra
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden5626 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-10-30 22:19:34
October 30 2019 22:19 GMT
#802
On October 30 2019 23:48 Danglars wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2019 13:40 CorsairHero wrote:
First sponsor to pull out of a hearthstone tournament
Blizzard lost a big sponsor after the Hong Kong outcry: Mitsubishi

Blizzard Entertainment may be feeling the effects of its controversial ban of Hong Kong Hearthstone player Ng “Blitzchung” Wai Chung for quite some time. The company not only faced a widespread player boycott, condemnations from US lawmakers, and numerous employee walkouts over the decision, but it also lost a key sponsor of its international gaming competitions.

According to The Daily Beast, Mitsubishi decided to pull sponsorships of Blizzard e-sports events after the company banned Wai Chung for voicing support for the Hong Kong protesters in a televised post-game interview earlier this month. Reddit users first noticed the disappearance of the Mitsubishi logo during a recent Asia Pacific Hearthstone tournament, and the company confirmed its decision to pull its sponsorship to The Daily Beast.

https://www.theverge.com/2019/10/29/20939236/blizzard-china-hong-kong-protests-mitsubishi-hearthstone-ban-sponsorship-pulled

Finally some good news.

At least there is a silver lining, Blizz are one of the few things in history of the US that managed to unify both democrats and republicans to have a common stance; they both condemn blizzards actions lol.
"Dark Pleasure" | | I survived the Locust war of May 3, 2014
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-10-31 15:05:32
October 31 2019 15:02 GMT
#803
On October 23 2019 01:59 CuddlyCuteKitten wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2019 16:14 Shuffleblade wrote:
On October 22 2019 04:44 CuddlyCuteKitten wrote:
Given the historical context of Hong Kong and the national sentiment of China I actually think it's perfectly resonable for them to be upset when people on the outside support separation. Lets not forget how and under what circumstances the British acquired HK. Chinese people have a long memory.
Actual interference from the US or UK would likely be received extremely poorly and be counter productive as a whole.

Counter productive for whom? HK has been enjoying free speech and democracy and now live with a timer until those freedoms will be taken away. While at the same time it seems the dictator doesn't even respect the timer in the first place.

HK is without an army and officially a part of China, without foreign powers interceding on their behalf HK is doomed. HK need help to protect and/or extend the timer at the very least, no matter how much they protest or riot they cannot do it themselves all they can do is ask for help and pull attention to themselves.

Better not help since helping could be counterproductive is the laziest way of saying you are too lazy to care. Worst excuse ever.

I live in a free country, I can't even imagine the terror of knowing that my freedom of speech and democratic voice is being slowly derived of meaning and would ultimately be taken away from me.


The backstory of the whole situation is that the west (UK/US) were trading with China. But the west had nothing the Chinese wanted and demanded payment in silver.
To counteract this the British started selling opium to China starting a pandemic of drug use. The Chinese tried to stop it and the British declared war on them and stomped them into the ground, because they didn't want to get feed drugs. Later on the US also stomped the Chinese.
During these wars the UK first annexed parts of HK and finally forced the Chinese to agree to a "lease" for the rest of what is now HK for 100 years.
Quite clearly the west were the baddies in this scenario.

Understandably the citizens of HK, having lived under British rule for 156 years, are used to democracy and their own ideology. But HK is quite clearly Chinese.
I think it's commendable to take a stand for what you believe in and how you want your future to be.
I also think that China is not out to repay "a century of humiliation". But I don't think that means they haven't forgotten or that their efforts to become a superpower doesn't have a strong purpose of never becoming the victim again.

So if you look at it from the Chinese perspective with their history, specifically about HK, and their general feelings on involvement in political affairs I think other (western) power interceding on HK's behalf would be taken very, very badly. As bad as it is right now China knows that the rest of the world (and their own population) is watching.
But if you decide to make it "personal"... Want to bet that China is up for a diplomatic/economic version of the Opium Wars version III and are willing to cede HK? Not a bet I would like.

And yes, I think this means that HK is probably "doomed" in the long run. But honestly it's a global world and as harsh as it is if you want to live in the UK you can move away from China.

Apparently people of Hong Kong don't get a say because they just simply belong to China according to you. Nice. And no, they can't just become British citizens. That stopped a long time ago in 1997. Not that foreign citizenship stops the PRC government from abducting people from outside of China if it suits them anyways.
Circumstance
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States11403 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-10-31 22:38:46
October 31 2019 22:37 GMT
#804
Only one important organization in the esports industry was started in Hearthstone. It's also truly the only one that has hard committed to it, put Hearthstone on a central position in its space.

As of today, Blitzchung now plays for Tempo Storm.

https://tempostorm.com/articles/blitzchung
The world is better when every background has a chance.
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8232 Posts
October 31 2019 22:48 GMT
#805
On November 01 2019 07:37 Circumstance wrote:
Only one important organization in the esports industry was started in Hearthstone. It's also truly the only one that has hard committed to it, put Hearthstone on a central position in its space.

As of today, Blitzchung now plays for Tempo Storm.

https://tempostorm.com/articles/blitzchung


This seems like very poor english from someone from the US. I have no idea what you tried to say in that first paragraph. Is Tempo Storm the only important organization in the esports industry, because they're comitted to..hard? Or hard comitted to HS, and that somehow makes them the only important organization in esports..?
Circumstance
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States11403 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-10-31 22:52:41
October 31 2019 22:51 GMT
#806
On November 01 2019 07:48 Excludos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2019 07:37 Circumstance wrote:
Only one important organization in the esports industry was started in Hearthstone. It's also truly the only one that has hard committed to it, put Hearthstone on a central position in its space.

As of today, Blitzchung now plays for Tempo Storm.

https://tempostorm.com/articles/blitzchung


This seems like very poor english from someone from the US. I have no idea what you tried to say in that first paragraph. Is Tempo Storm the only important organization in the esports industry, because they're comitted to..hard? Or hard comitted to HS, and that somehow makes them the only important organization in esports..?

No other important organization in the industry was founded from Hearthstone, and no other important organization in the industry has made a hard commitment to Hearthstone/made it central to their brand identity. They're not the only important organization, they're the only one that can be described in this way.
The world is better when every background has a chance.
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9768 Posts
November 11 2019 13:51 GMT
#807
So how did the massive Blizzcon protest go or have we all forgotten about this now?
RIP Meatloaf <3
abuse
Profile Joined April 2011
Latvia1942 Posts
November 11 2019 14:45 GMT
#808
Police openly shooting at protestors now.
I don't believe you.
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8232 Posts
November 11 2019 15:18 GMT
#809
On November 11 2019 22:51 Jockmcplop wrote:
So how did the massive Blizzcon protest go or have we all forgotten about this now?


Overwatch 2 and Diablo 4 was announced so I guess all is forgiven
abuse
Profile Joined April 2011
Latvia1942 Posts
November 12 2019 08:42 GMT
#810
guy on reddit documenting videos of HK police abuse (I know, /hilarious/ coming from me, but no pun intended).

https://www.reddit.com/r/HongKong/comments/dhlsmw/list_of_documented_police_abuses/

I don't believe you.
emperorofwild
Profile Joined July 2019
87 Posts
November 13 2019 03:29 GMT
#811
On November 11 2019 23:45 abuse wrote:
Police openly shooting at protestors now.

dude you do not know a little bit about CPC . If they want use gunfire, the riots or you called protests wil be cleaned completely, one time for all.
The truth is riots are attacking all Mainlanders including University students and a Japanese who is thought to be Mainlander.And they use gasoline and firelighter to burn a HK citizen having different opinions with their behavior.
You call them freedom fighters ?
KlaCkoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Sweden1661 Posts
November 13 2019 03:38 GMT
#812
On November 13 2019 12:29 emperorofwild wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2019 23:45 abuse wrote:
Police openly shooting at protestors now.

dude you do not know a little bit about CPC . If they want use gunfire, the riots or you called protests wil be cleaned completely, one time for all.
The truth is riots are attacking all Mainlanders including University students and a Japanese who is thought to be Mainlander.And they use gasoline and firelighter to burn a HK citizen having different opinions with their behavior.
You call them freedom fighters ?

They want freedom, and they are fighting for it. I think that makes them, literally, freedom fighters.
"Voice or no voice the people can always be brought to the bidding of their leaders ... All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger."
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23633 Posts
November 13 2019 03:47 GMT
#813
On November 13 2019 12:38 KlaCkoN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2019 12:29 emperorofwild wrote:
On November 11 2019 23:45 abuse wrote:
Police openly shooting at protestors now.

dude you do not know a little bit about CPC . If they want use gunfire, the riots or you called protests wil be cleaned completely, one time for all.
The truth is riots are attacking all Mainlanders including University students and a Japanese who is thought to be Mainlander.And they use gasoline and firelighter to burn a HK citizen having different opinions with their behavior.
You call them freedom fighters ?

They want freedom, and they are fighting for it. I think that makes them, literally, freedom fighters.


Considering HK's suffocating inequality, they'd have to be anti-capitalist to be freedom fighters imo.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14103 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-11-13 04:06:19
November 13 2019 04:04 GMT
#814
On November 13 2019 12:47 GreenHorizons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2019 12:38 KlaCkoN wrote:
On November 13 2019 12:29 emperorofwild wrote:
On November 11 2019 23:45 abuse wrote:
Police openly shooting at protestors now.

dude you do not know a little bit about CPC . If they want use gunfire, the riots or you called protests wil be cleaned completely, one time for all.
The truth is riots are attacking all Mainlanders including University students and a Japanese who is thought to be Mainlander.And they use gasoline and firelighter to burn a HK citizen having different opinions with their behavior.
You call them freedom fighters ?

They want freedom, and they are fighting for it. I think that makes them, literally, freedom fighters.


Considering HK's suffocating inequality, they'd have to be anti-capitalist to be freedom fighters imo.

You don't have to be anti-capitalist to be anti inequality. HK's, somehow worse then san Deigo, the housing situation is a result of a lack of residentially zoned land due to a myriad of local issues. Whenever they deign to open up new land for housing they auction it off for the government's benefit.

But sure a communist revolution is going to take place in a communist nation, that makes sense.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
emperorofwild
Profile Joined July 2019
87 Posts
November 13 2019 04:25 GMT
#815
On November 13 2019 12:38 KlaCkoN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2019 12:29 emperorofwild wrote:
On November 11 2019 23:45 abuse wrote:
Police openly shooting at protestors now.

dude you do not know a little bit about CPC . If they want use gunfire, the riots or you called protests wil be cleaned completely, one time for all.
The truth is riots are attacking all Mainlanders including University students and a Japanese who is thought to be Mainlander.And they use gasoline and firelighter to burn a HK citizen having different opinions with their behavior.
You call them freedom fighters ?

They want freedom, and they are fighting for it. I think that makes them, literally, freedom fighters.

how about ISIS? They fight for their "freedom"?with freedom in mouth they can do everything including this ?
Today 7 railway lines are down .so How about the people want to take the railway to their job? how about their freedom?
abuse
Profile Joined April 2011
Latvia1942 Posts
November 13 2019 07:20 GMT
#816
On November 13 2019 13:25 emperorofwild wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2019 12:38 KlaCkoN wrote:
On November 13 2019 12:29 emperorofwild wrote:
On November 11 2019 23:45 abuse wrote:
Police openly shooting at protestors now.

dude you do not know a little bit about CPC . If they want use gunfire, the riots or you called protests wil be cleaned completely, one time for all.
The truth is riots are attacking all Mainlanders including University students and a Japanese who is thought to be Mainlander.And they use gasoline and firelighter to burn a HK citizen having different opinions with their behavior.
You call them freedom fighters ?

They want freedom, and they are fighting for it. I think that makes them, literally, freedom fighters.

how about ISIS? They fight for their "freedom"?with freedom in mouth they can do everything including this ?
Today 7 railway lines are down .so How about the people want to take the railway to their job? how about their freedom?


Everything you say is absurd.
Also, having some railway lines down does not limit your freedom, do you know what freedom is?
Freedom is what HKG people want, and what all this is happening for.
I don't believe you.
abuse
Profile Joined April 2011
Latvia1942 Posts
November 13 2019 07:21 GMT
#817
On November 13 2019 12:29 emperorofwild wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2019 23:45 abuse wrote:
Police openly shooting at protestors now.

dude you do not know a little bit about CPC . If they want use gunfire, the riots or you called protests wil be cleaned completely, one time for all.
The truth is riots are attacking all Mainlanders including University students and a Japanese who is thought to be Mainlander.And they use gasoline and firelighter to burn a HK citizen having different opinions with their behavior.
You call them freedom fighters ?


I don't know what you're trying to say even.
There's video proof of the police shooting people with gunfire.
I don't believe you.
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8232 Posts
November 13 2019 07:36 GMT
#818
On November 13 2019 13:25 emperorofwild wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2019 12:38 KlaCkoN wrote:
On November 13 2019 12:29 emperorofwild wrote:
On November 11 2019 23:45 abuse wrote:
Police openly shooting at protestors now.

dude you do not know a little bit about CPC . If they want use gunfire, the riots or you called protests wil be cleaned completely, one time for all.
The truth is riots are attacking all Mainlanders including University students and a Japanese who is thought to be Mainlander.And they use gasoline and firelighter to burn a HK citizen having different opinions with their behavior.
You call them freedom fighters ?

They want freedom, and they are fighting for it. I think that makes them, literally, freedom fighters.

how about ISIS? They fight for their "freedom"?with freedom in mouth they can do everything including this ?
Today 7 railway lines are down .so How about the people want to take the railway to their job? how about their freedom?


I'm sorry people's fight for their human rights is slightly inconvenient for you
emperorofwild
Profile Joined July 2019
87 Posts
November 13 2019 07:57 GMT
#819
On November 13 2019 16:36 Excludos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2019 13:25 emperorofwild wrote:
On November 13 2019 12:38 KlaCkoN wrote:
On November 13 2019 12:29 emperorofwild wrote:
On November 11 2019 23:45 abuse wrote:
Police openly shooting at protestors now.

dude you do not know a little bit about CPC . If they want use gunfire, the riots or you called protests wil be cleaned completely, one time for all.
The truth is riots are attacking all Mainlanders including University students and a Japanese who is thought to be Mainlander.And they use gasoline and firelighter to burn a HK citizen having different opinions with their behavior.
You call them freedom fighters ?

They want freedom, and they are fighting for it. I think that makes them, literally, freedom fighters.

how about ISIS? They fight for their "freedom"?with freedom in mouth they can do everything including this ?
Today 7 railway lines are down .so How about the people want to take the railway to their job? how about their freedom?


I'm sorry people's fight for their human rights is slightly inconvenient for you

I am sorry ,today most HK people's little tiny hunman rights—right to take a train, is destroyed by your human rights fighters? do they have human rights? or only people have same opinion with you stupid ,know nothing and never be to HK or China, have the human rights?
abuse
Profile Joined April 2011
Latvia1942 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-11-13 08:09:45
November 13 2019 07:58 GMT
#820
"the right to take a train" lol.

You know what is a human right? Democracy. Freedom of thought and expression, The right to public assembly, The right of no unfair detainment, the right to trial, the right of always being innocent until proven guilty, The right to not be tortured, the right to live, The right to not have your own police fucking shoot you, beat the crap out of you, or rape you while you've been arrested during your right of public assembly.
I don't believe you.
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