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Inspired by this old thread which was less of a choice.
2 Balisongs or 2 Nunchaku ?
Both are short ranged quick manueverable weapons. Both can be thrown or flipped around for longer ranges.
Both can be deadly in the hands of a skilled user.
What do you choose?
The conditions are as follows:
-Both fighters have the same body type, same skill set, nobody has a clear advantage over the other.
-You cannot use any outside weapons, bite, or do anything other than use the weapons you have.
-You can use the weapons in any way you\'d like.
-It is a fight to the death.
OR
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+ Show Spoiler + On November 26 2006 09:39 exalted wrote:I saw this posted on another forum, started discussing with friends, and wanted to post it here to see TL\'s thoughts: The conditions are as follows: -Both fighters have the same body type, same skill set, nobody has a clear advantage over the other. -You cannot use any outside weapons, bite, or do anything other than use the weapons you have. -You can use the weapons in any way you\'d like. -It is a fight to the death. Now which weapon would you take: A single butterfly knife or a standard Louisville slugger. Each weapon is to be used against the other weapon. Please explain your answers. edit: I don\'t know how to make a poll
Poll: Fate
(Vote): Balis
(Vote): Nunchucks
Me personally I don't know what I would choose at the moment. I am fairly skilled with both and I don't know what would be best in this fight.
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It's more like: On low skill levels the knives are an advantage since they're so much easier of a weapon and so straightforward to use. If both are skilled with their weapons however, the nunchaku guy will have a definite advantage because of the speed and range, and all the techniques one can learn with a nunchaku as opposed to the knives.
IMHO.
-Mynock
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vs.
Both can be deadly in the right hands. Who do you pick?
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On June 10 2007 18:40 gameguard wrote:vs. Both can be deadly in the right hands. Who do you pick?
The second one, the first one is obviously fake.
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Does anyone actually have a video of nunchucks being used in a fight or tournament?
Actually hitting someone with it, not just being swung around. Bruce Lee one doesn't count 
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the knife
nunchaku are the dumbest weapons ever. youre more likely to hurt yourselves with them than anyone else
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Cayman Islands24199 Posts
On June 10 2007 19:01 SoMuchBetter wrote:
the knife
nunchaku are the dumbest weapons ever. youre more likely to hurt yourselves with them than anyone else I agree wtih this
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Knife all the way : /. If the fighter is equally skilled with the knife, then he would have the edge. Har har.
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i have nunchaku, and they are beast
NUNCHUK KILLA
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On June 10 2007 19:01 SoMuchBetter wrote:
the knife
nunchaku are the dumbest weapons ever. youre more likely to hurt yourselves with them than anyone else
it's still possible to get cut by your own balisong if you lack the dexterity. i've seen someone get a slight cut by carelessly flipping one open. both don't seem like practical weapons to me, but errrr i'll go with nunchucks just because michelangelo used them.
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theres nothing impractical about a balisong whatsoever
a knife is a knife
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On June 10 2007 18:31 Mynock wrote:
It's more like: On low skill levels the knives are an advantage since they're so much easier of a weapon and so straightforward to use. If both are skilled with their weapons however, the nunchaku guy will have a definite advantage because of the speed and range, and all the techniques one can learn with a nunchaku as opposed to the knives.
IMHO.
-Mynock
Exactly what I was thinking. I'd rather have the knifes because I got no clue how to use numchuks effectively but i'm sure if 2 martial arts masters who have trained with the weapons fought. The one with the numchuks would have the advantage.
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On June 10 2007 18:40 gameguard wrote:vs. Both can be deadly in the right hands. Who do you pick?
i dont think thats an accurate analogy
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Nunchucks easily imo
speed/range ftw
I think i would have a better chance of hitting someone with knives with a nunchuck than vice versa
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I don't see how not knowing how to use a weapon therefore makes the weapon totally useless as you say, SoMuchBetter. It might be useless to you, but pretty sure someone who knows how to use them will kick the shit outta a knifeguy.
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On June 10 2007 17:39 CharlieMurphy wrote:
-Both fighters have the same body type, same skill set, nobody has a clear advantage over the other.
Assuming both are expert Nunchaku users who have never touched a knife before:
wins
As you can see, it really fucking depends.
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On June 10 2007 22:56 HappyFeetO_O wrote:
I don't see how not knowing how to use a weapon therefore makes the weapon totally useless as you say, SoMuchBetter. It might be useless to you, but pretty sure someone who knows how to use them will kick the shit outta a knifeguy.
I've had training with nunchucks. I've used wooden ones, but I don't know how a metal one would swing (speed, mobility?). If you get hit with one, you won't fly like in the movies. It just bounces and stings, sort of like getting hit with a batton.
Why don't one of you guys go buy a pair of chucks, have a rubber knife, and then see if you can disable the knife guy before he cuts your arm or stabs you : /.
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all i know is that if i get into a fight, that fucker is going to bleed.
yeah, i have that mentality.
knife all the way
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Norway28665 Posts
man i once remember i was sitting in this room with some friends and people i hadnt met before and we were all fucked on meth and then this guy busts out some nunchucks and he keeps swinging them around and he was real good and watching was cool
then one of them malfunctions and one of the blocks on the side flies off in huge fucking speed and collides with the wall literally 5-10 cm away from my face
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lol
dont do meth kids. its the #1 cause of nunchuck malfunction related fatalities
little known fact
also it is the scourge of the native american population, with addiction rates as high as 30% in some rural communities
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well the guy just throws the knife and kills you- he has two knives, which means he can stab you in your chest or even head if he's feelin lucky, gg no re
but i'll vote for nunchuks just cuz they are cool :D
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eh ok this is pretty weird
firstly. knives and nunchuks are totally different. they are totally different fighting styles and if one excels at one, he cant really be as good with the other unless he split his training time 50/50.
the knife is of course easier to use. just stab. the people who say THROW THE KNIFE GG have obviously never thrown a knife at something before. I have and its pretty fucking difficult to hit your target and if you miss then youre down to 1 knife.
the nunchuks are difficult to use. to a newb it would pose more harm to the user than the opponent since a lot of it is controlled swings and strikes and then you immediately need to receive it and stop that force and set up your second attack and so forth.
right now, since im a total noob at nunchuks, I would pick the knives. but i know that if someone trained nunchuks and I used knives then GG NO RE FOR ME much faster and the possibility to combo and continuously swipe that shit around would make it really difficult for me to attack at all.
kinda like darth maul's double lightsaber. the jedi thought of such an idea but people kept losing their limbs and shit so they deemed it as a too dangerous weapon for the WEILDER ITSELF. noobs got owned by maul who totally mastered that shit and was THE SHIT
um... get my drift?
untrained - knives
trained - nunchuks EZ
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errm well ppl do train throwing knives, it's like throwing axes, sure ain't easy, but if you are skilled then you can hit anything  i doubt training perfectly throwing knives takes more time than training how to wield nunchaku very well.
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Norway28665 Posts
throwing knifes are designed quiiite differently from balisongs. if you wanna throw a balisong you should just revert it back into non-stabbing form and throw it like you'd throw a rock.
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I've thought about it for a bit and I still don't see how the nunchucks are so great. Nunchucks just seem so clumsy.
The range of the nunchucks isn't that great; you have one swing to signifcantly stun the knife user or you'll get slashed or stabbed. Not to mention that the knife user has the ability to guard with his other hand.
Getting hit with a nunchuck probably hurts like a bitch but you're not going to be sent flying back. I don't see how nunchucks can prevent a guy on adrenaline from getting in close.
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gogo knife
I have nunchucks and you just have to get close(a quick leap forward), grab the nunchuks en stab stab stab
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On June 11 2007 02:24 Spike wrote:
I've thought about it for a bit and I still don't see how the nunchucks are so great. Nunchucks just seem so clumsy.
The range of the nunchucks isn't that great; you have one swing to signifcantly stun the knife user or you'll get slashed or stabbed. Not to mention that the knife user has the ability to guard with his other hand.
Getting hit with a nunchuck probably hurts like a bitch but you're not going to be sent flying back. I don't see how nunchucks can prevent a guy on adrenaline from getting in close.
Because of the speed and the fact that it is very hard to determine his trajectory.
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nunchuks are far from the perfect weapon. they aren't as good as a fighting weapon as people think but they sure are impressive when handled to perfection
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who the hell would pick the nunchucks?
Did you forget Knife goes stabby stabby?
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thedeadhaji
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wholeheartedly agreed with mynock here.
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If someone's trained of course he'd pick the 2 nunchuks
there sure is alotta untrained so-to-be-dead people in this thread
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On June 11 2007 01:21 lil.sis wrote:
lol
dont do meth kids. its the #1 cause of nunchuck malfunction related fatalities
lol
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what about spears? are they good? just curious because in most games the spears always get the shaft...
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On June 11 2007 01:43 pyrogenetix wrote:
eh ok this is pretty weird
firstly. knives and nunchuks are totally different. they are totally different fighting styles and if one excels at one, he cant really be as good with the other unless he split his training time 50/50.
the knife is of course easier to use. just stab. the people who say THROW THE KNIFE GG have obviously never thrown a knife at something before. I have and its pretty fucking difficult to hit your target and if you miss then youre down to 1 knife.
the nunchuks are difficult to use. to a newb it would pose more harm to the user than the opponent since a lot of it is controlled swings and strikes and then you immediately need to receive it and stop that force and set up your second attack and so forth.
right now, since im a total noob at nunchuks, I would pick the knives. but i know that if someone trained nunchuks and I used knives then GG NO RE FOR ME much faster and the possibility to combo and continuously swipe that shit around would make it really difficult for me to attack at all.
kinda like darth maul's double lightsaber. the jedi thought of such an idea but people kept losing their limbs and shit so they deemed it as a too dangerous weapon for the WEILDER ITSELF. noobs got owned by maul who totally mastered that shit and was THE SHIT
um... get my drift?
untrained - knives
trained - nunchuks EZ
who was your target? hope it's not innocent stray cats
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On June 11 2007 07:08 DrainX wrote:OMG! Is that bisu?
no, that is lee jun fan, bisu's nick is ownage or whatever, giving bisu nick bruce lee sux since he's not even close to the god -.-y blasphemy.
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Trivia, Jackie Chan got owned in this scene before he was famous.
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baseball bat>nunchuks and knives
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guys, if you get bludgeoned by a nunchuk or stabbed by a knife, you're going down no matter what. It really depends where do you get hit; example, if you get stabbed in the leg, i dont think your mobility would be great but if you get hit in the knee, gg your knee.
Also if you get stabbed in the stomach, gg you, but if you get hit by the nunchuk , i dont think its a great deal of damage... its really situational.
however i think that nunchuk are far more painful than knives :p
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On June 11 2007 02:24 Spike wrote:
I've thought about it for a bit and I still don't see how the nunchucks are so great. Nunchucks just seem so clumsy.
The range of the nunchucks isn't that great; you have one swing to signifcantly stun the knife user or you'll get slashed or stabbed. Not to mention that the knife user has the ability to guard with his other hand.
Getting hit with a nunchuck probably hurts like a bitch but you're not going to be sent flying back. I don't see how nunchucks can prevent a guy on adrenaline from getting in close.
Its kind of like golfing, you dont have to move the handle very fast, but the club head is really really fast.
Nunchucks can also be used for defense i think? And getting hit with a nunchuck will do more than "hurt like a bitch" more like "immobilize whatever part of body was hit"
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ffs, not one of these again. ~.~
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On June 11 2007 07:33 Aepplet wrote:
what about spears? are they good? just curious because in most games the spears always get the shaft...
That's cuz in video games people don't die from 1 spear stab and can magically roll on the floor and dodge the spearhead. IRL spear is best. Long, good reach, fast retract, and all it take is one stab and ur done.
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Valhalla18444 Posts
hahaha whatever those are both for pussies i got power of greyskull (ya im he-man what about it????)
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Nunchucks arent really a weapon. The idea was to disguise the weapon as a legitimate farming tool during in time in which civilians were not allowed to own weapons, or something like that. They are incredibly difficult to master, and even when mastered, are still very impractical to use in any kind of combat. I say a knife/dual balisong absolutely wins hands down, because unlike a baseball bat, you could definitely eat many nunchuck blows if all you did was just rush into it, by which time only 1-2 real hits would be possible anyway. I have however read that the energy generated in a flying nunchuck could potentially fracture your skull on impact.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrmoHFuHpvA
ORLY?
http://www.mediafire.com/?6mz1cnzdzb7
[ Couldn't get that shit to upload to youtube for some reason ]
If it was up to me I'd definitely pick nunchuks but only because I've had some medium training with them when I was really into Kumdo [ read: kendo ] and if you know how to use them and not just flail them around you could easily take out someone who's using a knife. One hit to the face and the knife user will either drop the knife or grab their face. Nunchuks to the face hurt more than perhaps anywhere on the body with a knife imo. [ except your balls or organs something ] Think about it, a solid piece of wood getting slung against your face or a knife wound to your arm.
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^So have I! A knife wound isn't going to cut just cut up some superficial layer of your skin. You got nerves, blood vessels, and MUSCLE underneath your skin. Even my 7 inch pocket knife can cut and make me bleed if I press it a little against my skin. I can't imagine what would happen if I get a slash or two in!
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Just as it's been said before, if we're assuming that both people are skillful with the weapons they have, nunchaku would win. If they were both amatuers, buttefly knife.
Aside from this, I'd pick the nunchaku fighter for various reasons:
First, on butterfly knives. They do not have have a two-sided blade, only one edge and an unsharpened swedge. This not only limits their stabbing potential, but also means that slashing attacks can only be done from one side per weapon. Also, butterfly knives rarely have a blade longer than 4-5 inches, which means they must get closer to make contact than a normal six-inch dagger. Butterfly knives are NOT throwing weapons. The best bet anybody would have is to do what Drone suggested and close the handles, then hurl it like a rock.
As for nunchaku, a skilled user would probably just drop one before fighting. It's a two-handed weapon. Using two of any light weapon is more often than not going to decrease your effectiveness because you cannot use the leverage provided by your bodyweight on simultaneous attacks (and keep your balance, anyway). Nunchaku not only increase your contact reach a great deal more than a butterfly knife, it is also used for quick strikes from confusing angles. A real master using a pair can make attacks from very strange angles that are difficult to foresee and therefore harder to avoid.
The last big reason I'd bet on the nunchaku is the stopping power. It's a fight to the death as said in the original post, so it's safe to assume that both fighters are pumping adrenaline. With the exception of hits on critical points of the body, the knifer is going to be only making superficial wounds that cause a lot of pain. Obviously, one of the major side-effects of adrenalie is that it suppresses your ability to feel pain, which would decrease the effectiveness of the knifer. The nunchaku have the potential to break bones and drive strikes back/away, and regardless of how strong you are with adrenaline pumping through you, you're not going to fight effectively with your main arm broken.
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Like most people have mentioned, nunchucks are amazingly difficult to handle. They have a tendency to bounce back onto the user after an attack. This reminds me of that ultimate fighter/ weapon thing on national geographic that was flying around here a while ago.
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