On October 02 2024 22:11 Simberto wrote: Oh god not this fucking discussion. It sucks.
Just buy the games you like, don't buy the games you don't like, and don't constantly complain about weird shit. We don't need more stupid culture war everywhere.
If your dislike for a characters looks is big enough so you won't enjoy the game, don't buy it. But please don't constantly talk about how everything is "woke" now or any similar stupid shit. Just enjoy the games you like.
Good games are good even if the characters don't look perfect for you. Bad games are bad even if the characters look awesome. Not every game needs gay characters, but gay characters don't make a game bad. Pretty women don't make a game bad, ugly women don't make a game bad.
Just focus on the game instead of stupid superficial bullshit. And actually look at the game instead of trying to use it as a culture war battleground.
We as gamers should care how this is happening, because this isn't something that just go away and is forced upon gamers.
This is all started by some developers and major video game journalists with an agenda, and only in the US/west for a reason.
If we were to apply their standard, then classic characters morrigan and Mai Shiranui wouldn't even be on the drawing board.
The only good sign is these are happening at triple A Games mostly and IGN score is showing more and more disconnect with the sales and gamers' score. And more people are calling out about it.
even the nature of video game journalists in these publications are so different compared to what it used to be and Asia, it's a literal activists playground, just look at how Famitsu do their scoring. It's always about the game itself and no other agenda
There’s nothing stopping anybody making a Morrigan, outside of a vanishingly, vanishingly small minority.
Even people who would like, or are fine with a bit more diversity in major characters, myself included would by and large feel that it makes sense for a character who has a whole plot line triggered by seducing the protagonist to be conventionally attractive
Diversity doesn’t mean x archetype stops existing, just that it’s not the default every time.
Frankly I think the whole thing is massively overblown to begin with so there’s some insidious enemy to justify people complaining that Aloy has a bit of face fuzz or whatever
There’s a whole cottage industry rage baiting constantly on something that isn’t really an issue
Edit: just not worth it.
It's somehow not a controversy for video game journalists to attack video game developers for not complying to their female character standard. And how inclusive and new norm this is all happening. And that IGN article isn't the one making these "overblown" drama.
Any gamer would know historically we ALWAYS had sexualised and non sexualised characters and no big publication would attack it for their own political agenda.
And somehow attractive characters are only these for "male" audience. How seriously disconnected this view is when FGO gacha game expanded to 50/50 male and female gamers. Even the thought that only male gamers enjoy sexualised female characters is pretty hardcore sexists. (Theres literal plenty of clothing Collab for Nier automata)
Either way give it a few years and eastern gaming developer picking up, and we will find out what are the big sellers.
Gaming has developed a lot over the years, it’s subject to the same kin d of cultural criticism that say, film is. One doesn’t have to listen to it. Or you can but you don’t have to agree to it it.
It’s not people who dislike x female representation for being too sexualised review bombing games, it’s people annoyed that Aloy has some facial fuzz.
Content complaining about wokeness ruining video games is far more prevalent on the YouTubes of this world than the inverse. Although the latter does exist of course
I personally find it deeply, deeply tiresome but hey people are entitled to their opinions. They’re just not entitled to do the exact same things they get outraged for other people doing.
People angry at other people is normal, that's hardly an issue. It's just e-drama and you can sit it out or just have the "don't bother, gamers are at fault" kinda attitude towards it all.
Review bombing is gamers collective actions, if it wasn't an issue then it wouldn't be. Lots of PlayStation port to Steam got review bombed due to PSN requirements, is that bad?
video game journalists being activists going after game designers/directors/gamers are not, and shouldnt happen.
Days ago I watched ring of power and it's so bad that I can't even sit through the first season. Then I learnt second season even trying to make orc more likeable or some secret romance.
It's almost like a bunch of amateur modern writers thinking they could do a better work by making it more inclusive and accessible. And none of them understand these are timeless classic masterpiece because it is written by a master author pouring his life's work into it.
Ok so one instance is just natural anger bro but the other there’s ’no excuse’, that seems a rather arbitrary discrepancy
One doesn’t have to consume Kotaku’s content or whatever, they clearly have a certain market niche. Or you can via ragebait grifters, because man they love cherry picking Kotaku articles.
But you don’t have to. Much of this culture war nonsense disappears almost entirely, both sides of it if you cut a handful of pipelines. It’s great, would recommend.
I don’t think Rings of Power is particularly good, but it’s hardly an adaptation of a masterwork. It’s a hodgepodge of source material of various quality and completion, I don’t think it turned out great certainly, some changes I don’t think worked, some were completely immaterial really. Having some black hobbits or whatever is the least of that series many problems.
Likewise the perennial punching bag that is Star Wars from a certain subset of nerds, it’s got a multitude of issues but being ‘woke’ ain’t it IMO.
On October 02 2024 22:11 Simberto wrote: Oh god not this fucking discussion. It sucks.
Just buy the games you like, don't buy the games you don't like, and don't constantly complain about weird shit. We don't need more stupid culture war everywhere.
If your dislike for a characters looks is big enough so you won't enjoy the game, don't buy it. But please don't constantly talk about how everything is "woke" now or any similar stupid shit. Just enjoy the games you like.
Good games are good even if the characters don't look perfect for you. Bad games are bad even if the characters look awesome. Not every game needs gay characters, but gay characters don't make a game bad. Pretty women don't make a game bad, ugly women don't make a game bad.
Just focus on the game instead of stupid superficial bullshit. And actually look at the game instead of trying to use it as a culture war battleground.
We as gamers should care how this is happening, because this isn't something that just go away and is forced upon gamers.
This is all started by some developers and major video game journalists with an agenda, and only in the US/west for a reason.
If we were to apply their standard, then classic characters morrigan and Mai Shiranui wouldn't even be on the drawing board.
The only good sign is these are happening at triple A Games mostly and IGN score is showing more and more disconnect with the sales and gamers' score. And more people are calling out about it.
even the nature of video game journalists in these publications are so different compared to what it used to be and Asia, it's a literal activists playground, just look at how Famitsu do their scoring. It's always about the game itself and no other agenda
There’s nothing stopping anybody making a Morrigan, outside of a vanishingly, vanishingly small minority.
Even people who would like, or are fine with a bit more diversity in major characters, myself included would by and large feel that it makes sense for a character who has a whole plot line triggered by seducing the protagonist to be conventionally attractive
Diversity doesn’t mean x archetype stops existing, just that it’s not the default every time.
Frankly I think the whole thing is massively overblown to begin with so there’s some insidious enemy to justify people complaining that Aloy has a bit of face fuzz or whatever
There’s a whole cottage industry rage baiting constantly on something that isn’t really an issue
Edit: just not worth it.
It's somehow not a controversy for video game journalists to attack video game developers for not complying to their female character standard. And how inclusive and new norm this is all happening. And that IGN article isn't the one making these "overblown" drama.
Any gamer would know historically we ALWAYS had sexualised and non sexualised characters and no big publication would attack it for their own political agenda.
And somehow attractive characters are only these for "male" audience. How seriously disconnected this view is when FGO gacha game expanded to 50/50 male and female gamers. Even the thought that only male gamers enjoy sexualised female characters is pretty hardcore sexists. (Theres literal plenty of clothing Collab for Nier automata)
Either way give it a few years and eastern gaming developer picking up, and we will find out what are the big sellers.
Gaming has developed a lot over the years, it’s subject to the same kin d of cultural criticism that say, film is. One doesn’t have to listen to it. Or you can but you don’t have to agree to it it.
It’s not people who dislike x female representation for being too sexualised review bombing games, it’s people annoyed that Aloy has some facial fuzz.
Content complaining about wokeness ruining video games is far more prevalent on the YouTubes of this world than the inverse. Although the latter does exist of course
I personally find it deeply, deeply tiresome but hey people are entitled to their opinions. They’re just not entitled to do the exact same things they get outraged for other people doing.
People angry at other people is normal, that's hardly an issue. It's just e-drama and you can sit it out or just have the "don't bother, gamers are at fault" kinda attitude towards it all.
Review bombing is gamers collective actions, if it wasn't an issue then it wouldn't be. Lots of PlayStation port to Steam got review bombed due to PSN requirements, is that bad?
video game journalists being activists going after game designers/directors/gamers are not, and shouldnt happen.
Days ago I watched ring of power and it's so bad that I can't even sit through the first season. Then I learnt second season even trying to make orc more likeable or some secret romance.
It's almost like a bunch of amateur modern writers thinking they could do a better work by making it more inclusive and accessible. And none of them understand these are timeless classic masterpiece because it is written by a master author pouring his life's work into it.
I agree that RoP is utter shit, I couldn't even finish the 3rd episode. But it's funny that only bad media is woke.
I read a super funny thread yesterday where people argued that BG3 was great because the devs listened to the gaming community (which is true) compared to Concord that was ruined by woke directors. When called out on the fact that BG3 is woke as fuck in comparison to most games (it's not really you can just do whatever you want and whomever you want. But it's hard to argue that a game where you can play as crossdressing think and take it hard from a bear is not considered woke) they just refused to accept it. Because BG3 is too good to be woke. 😀
You’re asking for consistency from people who just refuse to admit what their issues actually are.
If changes are made to an existing IP it’s ‘I don’t mind these things, but make a new IP rather than alter a classic’ which is fair enough IMO.
But then some totally new IP or story is made and that’s ‘woke’ too.
If a gay character or whatever is peripheral, the line is ‘it’s just tokenism, that’s my issue, it’s pointless pandering’ if they’re a main character it’s ’Oh it’s not that they’re gay/w/e it’s just a badly written character’
@Jimmy There are plenty of voice actors who put several times more effort into their non-profession than some people with a profession. I don't care whether or not it's a profession, you're denigrating them by acting like they're lesser than others. It's not just the use of the word "profession", it's your whole attitude towards them.
Here is another extreme example to make a point. Ayn Rand is one of the most important intellectuals of the 20th Century. She died more than 40 years ago and her last novel was written 70 years ago. Her books sold over a million copies in 2023. Literary Genius? yes. Was she in the profession of "Novel Writer". No. The profession does not exist.
Now for some humour, this is great stuff.
This guy is filling his pockets with money as I type this. Nice move on his part. If he wants to pull in more cash he must stop ending his sentences with a preposition. People over 50 with 10s of millions in budget to allocate notice tiny grammar details such as this.
On October 11 2024 22:10 JimmyJRaynor wrote: Here is another extreme example to make a point. Ayn Rand is one of the most important intellectuals of the 20th Century. She died more than 40 years ago and her last novel was written 70 years ago. Her books sold over a million copies in 2023. Literary Genius? yes. Was she in the profession of "Novel Writer". No. The profession does not exist.
On October 11 2024 22:10 JimmyJRaynor wrote: Here is another extreme example to make a point. Ayn Rand is one of the most important intellectuals of the 20th Century. She died more than 40 years ago and her last novel was written 70 years ago. Her books sold over a million copies in 2023. Literary Genius? yes. Was she in the profession of "Novel Writer". No. The profession does not exist.
What on Earth are you talking about?
What is and is not a "Profession". Please see the post directly above my post. Sometimes when people do not quote someone on this forum it is because they are replying to the post directly above the post they made. I thought that was common knowledge here. However, there is your explanation.
On October 11 2024 22:10 JimmyJRaynor wrote: Here is another extreme example to make a point. Ayn Rand is one of the most important intellectuals of the 20th Century. She died more than 40 years ago and her last novel was written 70 years ago. Her books sold over a million copies in 2023. Literary Genius? yes. Was she in the profession of "Novel Writer". No. The profession does not exist.
What on Earth are you talking about?
What is and is not a "Profession". Please see the post directly above my post. Sometimes when people do not quote someone on this forum it is because they are replying to the post directly above the post they made. I thought that was common knowledge here. However, there is your explanation.
You are familiar with the phrase ‘the oldest profession’ right? Are they unionised or have professional certification bodies?
You’re just applying your own personal definition, one that isn’t widely shared and saying you’re right. Which is very unlike you I have to say
On October 11 2024 22:26 WombaT wrote: You’re just applying your own personal definition, one that isn’t widely shared and saying you’re right. Which is very unlike you I have to say
It is not personal. Many people define "profession" the exact same way I do. None of the software engineering students that I graduated with at the best tech program in Canada view themselves as "being in a profession".
Jimmy, we all know you like to praise corrupt CEOs, tell people to just up and leave when they dislike their jobs, and it is therefore consistent with you denying the existence of various professions and denigrating people's jobs for no reason.
Your lack of self-awareness over these facts, however, is getting under people's skin. If you at least knew how unpopular your views were regarding work and careers, you could perhaps learn to understand why people dislike your takes so much. Almost universally by the way. Almost no one has ever sided with you on these issues. That doesn't strike you as odd?
The definition varies a lot. If you go true oldschool only medicine, the law and the divine (priests) count. The Oxford definition is "a paid occupation, especially one which has prolonged training and formal qualifications". Basically everyone with a job.
So you can see why it's a problem when you just roll with your interpretation of what counts and expect everyone to understand.
On October 11 2024 22:43 Magic Powers wrote: Jimmy, we all know you like to praise corrupt CEOs, tell people to just up and leave when they dislike their jobs, and it is therefore consistent with you denying the existence of various professions and denigrating people's jobs for no reason.
Your lack of self-awareness over these facts, however, is getting under people's skin. If you at least knew how unpopular your views were regarding work and careers, you could perhaps learn to understand why people dislike your takes so much. Almost universally by the way. Almost no one has ever sided with you on these issues. That doesn't strike you as odd?
just up and leave their jobs? dude, these people are working in the tech industry. as do i. we all know our jobs are temporary. the media spin that some how tech people can work in a job forever is what lacks self awareness.
Do you think the game designer of Stormgate is assuming he'll work for Frost Giant forever? Or do you think he is carefully setting himself up by building a skill set so he can bolt from Frost Giant when the time is right? I bet you he is playing 3D Chess as I type this and planning his exit from Frost Giant before it closes. To pretend he will work there for however long he pleases lacks self awareness.
The games media and their absurd spin on the tech industry lacks self awareness. I know exactly whats up. And hey man, the games media is getting laid off in droves. They deserve it. They do not represent the consumers' interests. Their jobs were always temporary.
On October 11 2024 22:43 Magic Powers wrote: Jimmy, we all know you like to praise corrupt CEOs, tell people to just up and leave when they dislike their jobs, and it is therefore consistent with you denying the existence of various professions and denigrating people's jobs for no reason.
Your lack of self-awareness over these facts, however, is getting under people's skin. If you at least knew how unpopular your views were regarding work and careers, you could perhaps learn to understand why people dislike your takes so much. Almost universally by the way. Almost no one has ever sided with you on these issues. That doesn't strike you as odd?
These aren’t unpopular truths, they’re also just wrong frequently but hey Jimmy gonna Jimmy.
In the real world people can’t just pivot and learn entirely new skillsets in 5 minutes. Which is his solution to any societal problem one cares to mention.
On October 11 2024 23:12 WombaT wrote: In the real world people can’t just pivot and learn entirely new skillsets in 5 minutes. Which is his solution to any societal problem one cares to mention.
And most people do not even attempt to do that. self aware people who know how volatile the tech industry is PLAN AHEAD. Also, when you enter project you demand a premium on their pay knowing the piece of software will be finished in 12 months and you will be out of a job.
Have you ever worked for a software development shop before? Or do you just work in an IT Service situation? You can go from 10 people working on a piece of software down to 2 people in a week.
So, what did every single one of my 90 classmates do. We carefully planned out our tech learning path. Our goal was not "a job". Our goal was bringing up our open market value because we all knew that every job in tech is a temporary job.
On October 11 2024 22:43 Magic Powers wrote: Jimmy, we all know you like to praise corrupt CEOs, tell people to just up and leave when they dislike their jobs, and it is therefore consistent with you denying the existence of various professions and denigrating people's jobs for no reason.
Your lack of self-awareness over these facts, however, is getting under people's skin. If you at least knew how unpopular your views were regarding work and careers, you could perhaps learn to understand why people dislike your takes so much. Almost universally by the way. Almost no one has ever sided with you on these issues. That doesn't strike you as odd?
just up and leave their jobs? dude, these people are working in the tech industry. as do i. we all know our jobs are temporary. the media spin that some how tech people can work in a job forever is what lacks self awareness.
Do you think the game designer of Stormgate is assuming he'll work for Frost Giant forever? Or do you think he is carefully setting himself up by building a skill set so he can bolt from Frost Giant when the time is right? I bet you he is playing 3D Chess as I type this and planning his exit from Frost Giant before it closes. To pretend he will work there for however long he pleases lacks self awareness.
The games media and their absurd spin on the tech industry lacks self awareness. I know exactly whats up. And hey man, the games media is getting laid off in droves. They deserve it. They do not represent the consumers' interests. Their jobs were always temporary.
But nobody is claiming that x worker has the right to remain in the same job forever so I’m not sure why you’re countering as if that’s the claim.
I’ll really have a good laugh when it’s your head on the chopping block given your wholesale dismissal of everyone else’s value.
You genuinely think it’s reasonable to invoke a white collar to blue collar contempt to augment your arguments while displaying this wholesale contempt for everyone else
The Tech Industry is massively bloated. I watch 4 year degree Comp Sci grads manually coding accounting and actuarial reports. Is it 1975? LOL. I'm some "evil guy" because I sell my Report Writer Add-on tool along with a 5 hour a week service contract and 3 comp sci degreed people get laid off. 15 hours replaces 120 hours. These report makers had to know their 1975 jobs could be replaced with slightly better tech.
On October 11 2024 23:27 WombaT wrote: You genuinely think it’s reasonable to invoke a white collar to blue collar contempt to augment your arguments while displaying this wholesale contempt for everyone else
27,000 blue collar employed Canadians died in their jobs while 0 white collar emplooyees died working for the government funded Ubisoft in Canada. I give the blue collar workers who make Canada run the respect they deserve. I'm as self deprecating about my job and Jerry Seinfeld is about being a comedian.
Everyone talks about "front line workers". Well, they get my respect. The ER DRs , the Nurses, the trades.. mad respect.
I'm just another lazy tech worker. I do put in a solid 15 hours a week of real work. Sadly, there are many tech workers who do even less work than I do. I camouflage how lazy I am so that my customers never know. Today, Tech WOrkers post brag videos about how little they do. That is how pervasive laziness is in the tech sector.
On October 11 2024 22:43 Magic Powers wrote: Jimmy, we all know you like to praise corrupt CEOs, tell people to just up and leave when they dislike their jobs, and it is therefore consistent with you denying the existence of various professions and denigrating people's jobs for no reason.
Your lack of self-awareness over these facts, however, is getting under people's skin. If you at least knew how unpopular your views were regarding work and careers, you could perhaps learn to understand why people dislike your takes so much. Almost universally by the way. Almost no one has ever sided with you on these issues. That doesn't strike you as odd?
just up and leave their jobs? dude, these people are working in the tech industry. as do i. we all know our jobs are temporary. the media spin that some how tech people can work in a job forever is what lacks self awareness.
Do you think the game designer of Stormgate is assuming he'll work for Frost Giant forever? Or do you think he is carefully setting himself up by building a skill set so he can bolt from Frost Giant when the time is right? I bet you he is playing 3D Chess as I type this and planning his exit from Frost Giant before it closes. To pretend he will work there for however long he pleases lacks self awareness.
The games media and their absurd spin on the tech industry lacks self awareness. I know exactly whats up. And hey man, the games media is getting laid off in droves. They deserve it. They do not represent the consumers' interests. Their jobs were always temporary.
I mentioned an old argument to show you that this new thing you're doing is not a new thing, you've consistently denigrated working people for years. I have no interest in picking up that old argument. Just be aware that your view is unpopular and that you shouldn't act shocked that people disagree with you.
On October 11 2024 23:36 WombaT wrote: Nobody said you’re evil, just deluded as to the realities of the world, while simultaneously preaching them. = Literally everyone disagrees on your pronouncements, ah gee I wonder why?
lol, everyone? the 6 people on this forum are not every one.
Every tech worker on a team building a piece of software I know goes by their current open market value and not their current pay level. They know that once the software is fully tested their job ends. Perhaps the 6 people on here disagree? who cares.
On October 11 2024 22:43 Magic Powers wrote: Jimmy, we all know you like to praise corrupt CEOs, tell people to just up and leave when they dislike their jobs, and it is therefore consistent with you denying the existence of various professions and denigrating people's jobs for no reason.
Your lack of self-awareness over these facts, however, is getting under people's skin. If you at least knew how unpopular your views were regarding work and careers, you could perhaps learn to understand why people dislike your takes so much. Almost universally by the way. Almost no one has ever sided with you on these issues. That doesn't strike you as odd?
just up and leave their jobs? dude, these people are working in the tech industry. as do i. we all know our jobs are temporary. the media spin that some how tech people can work in a job forever is what lacks self awareness.
Do you think the game designer of Stormgate is assuming he'll work for Frost Giant forever? Or do you think he is carefully setting himself up by building a skill set so he can bolt from Frost Giant when the time is right? I bet you he is playing 3D Chess as I type this and planning his exit from Frost Giant before it closes. To pretend he will work there for however long he pleases lacks self awareness.
The games media and their absurd spin on the tech industry lacks self awareness. I know exactly whats up. And hey man, the games media is getting laid off in droves. They deserve it. They do not represent the consumers' interests. Their jobs were always temporary.
I mentioned an old argument to show you that this new thing you're doing is not a new thing, you've consistently denigrated working people for years. I have no interest in picking up that old argument. Just be aware that your view is unpopular and that you shouldn't act shocked that people disagree with you.
No, I correctly identify the laziness of tech workers. They post brag videos about it. I've covered my views of blue collar, trades, and front line workers. Mad Respect.
Bob Rae is my hero. Check my posts. So peddle that over generalization someplace else.
On October 11 2024 23:36 WombaT wrote: Nobody said you’re evil, just deluded as to the realities of the world, while simultaneously preaching them. Literally everyone disagrees on your pronouncements, ah gee I wonder why?
I am labelled as "evil" by the 4 year degreed computer science grads losing their 1975 report maker jobs.
On October 11 2024 23:36 WombaT wrote: Nobody said you’re evil, just deluded as to the realities of the world, while simultaneously preaching them.
so you think a job creating a new piece of software as a contractor is a permanent job? I am guessing your answer is no. If everyone knows how volatile the tech sector is.. .what is your next move? Plan for your next job.
On October 11 2024 23:36 WombaT wrote: Nobody said you’re evil, just deluded as to the realities of the world, while simultaneously preaching them. = Literally everyone disagrees on your pronouncements, ah gee I wonder why?
lol, everyone? the 6 people on this forum are not every one.
Every tech worker on a team building a piece of software I know goes by their current open market value and not their current pay level. They know that once the software is fully tested their job ends. Perhaps the 6 people on here disagree? who cares.
Nobody disagreeing with you is making that claim though. As I said in my previous post.
You’re probably lucky you have some specific technical skill set because if you had to be employed in any environment where basic social skills were of use you would be fucked, but fair play to you.
On October 11 2024 23:36 WombaT wrote: Nobody said you’re evil, just deluded as to the realities of the world, while simultaneously preaching them. = Literally everyone disagrees on your pronouncements, ah gee I wonder why?
lol, everyone? the 6 people on this forum are not every one.
Every tech worker on a team building a piece of software I know goes by their current open market value and not their current pay level. They know that once the software is fully tested their job ends. Perhaps the 6 people on here disagree? who cares.
On October 11 2024 22:43 Magic Powers wrote: Jimmy, we all know you like to praise corrupt CEOs, tell people to just up and leave when they dislike their jobs, and it is therefore consistent with you denying the existence of various professions and denigrating people's jobs for no reason.
Your lack of self-awareness over these facts, however, is getting under people's skin. If you at least knew how unpopular your views were regarding work and careers, you could perhaps learn to understand why people dislike your takes so much. Almost universally by the way. Almost no one has ever sided with you on these issues. That doesn't strike you as odd?
just up and leave their jobs? dude, these people are working in the tech industry. as do i. we all know our jobs are temporary. the media spin that some how tech people can work in a job forever is what lacks self awareness.
Do you think the game designer of Stormgate is assuming he'll work for Frost Giant forever? Or do you think he is carefully setting himself up by building a skill set so he can bolt from Frost Giant when the time is right? I bet you he is playing 3D Chess as I type this and planning his exit from Frost Giant before it closes. To pretend he will work there for however long he pleases lacks self awareness.
The games media and their absurd spin on the tech industry lacks self awareness. I know exactly whats up. And hey man, the games media is getting laid off in droves. They deserve it. They do not represent the consumers' interests. Their jobs were always temporary.
I mentioned an old argument to show you that this new thing you're doing is not a new thing, you've consistently denigrated working people for years. I have no interest in picking up that old argument. Just be aware that your view is unpopular and that you shouldn't act shocked that people disagree with you.
No, I correctly identify the laziness of tech workers. They post brag videos about it. I've covered my views of blue collar, trades, and front line workers. Mad Respect.
Bob Rae is my hero. Check my posts. So peddle that over generalization someplace else.
I don't care about a handful of people bragging about how lazy they get to be while making good money. You praise rich CEOs (who do exactly the same thing) while denigrating a few regular workers when some of them get to boast for a minute. You're a massive hypocrite in this regard and you have a huge boner for the corrupt super wealthy. This is not about you hating on lazy people making too much money, this is about your quest to prove how much edgier than everyone else you can be. You're just a contrarian for the drama's sake.
On October 11 2024 23:36 WombaT wrote: Nobody said you’re evil, just deluded as to the realities of the world, while simultaneously preaching them. = Literally everyone disagrees on your pronouncements, ah gee I wonder why?
lol, everyone? the 6 people on this forum are not every one.
Every tech worker on a team building a piece of software I know goes by their current open market value and not their current pay level. They know that once the software is fully tested their job ends. Perhaps the 6 people on here disagree? who cares.
On October 11 2024 23:42 Magic Powers wrote:
On October 11 2024 23:01 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
On October 11 2024 22:43 Magic Powers wrote: Jimmy, we all know you like to praise corrupt CEOs, tell people to just up and leave when they dislike their jobs, and it is therefore consistent with you denying the existence of various professions and denigrating people's jobs for no reason.
Your lack of self-awareness over these facts, however, is getting under people's skin. If you at least knew how unpopular your views were regarding work and careers, you could perhaps learn to understand why people dislike your takes so much. Almost universally by the way. Almost no one has ever sided with you on these issues. That doesn't strike you as odd?
just up and leave their jobs? dude, these people are working in the tech industry. as do i. we all know our jobs are temporary. the media spin that some how tech people can work in a job forever is what lacks self awareness.
Do you think the game designer of Stormgate is assuming he'll work for Frost Giant forever? Or do you think he is carefully setting himself up by building a skill set so he can bolt from Frost Giant when the time is right? I bet you he is playing 3D Chess as I type this and planning his exit from Frost Giant before it closes. To pretend he will work there for however long he pleases lacks self awareness.
The games media and their absurd spin on the tech industry lacks self awareness. I know exactly whats up. And hey man, the games media is getting laid off in droves. They deserve it. They do not represent the consumers' interests. Their jobs were always temporary.
I mentioned an old argument to show you that this new thing you're doing is not a new thing, you've consistently denigrated working people for years. I have no interest in picking up that old argument. Just be aware that your view is unpopular and that you shouldn't act shocked that people disagree with you.
No, I correctly identify the laziness of tech workers. They post brag videos about it. I've covered my views of blue collar, trades, and front line workers. Mad Respect.
Bob Rae is my hero. Check my posts. So peddle that over generalization someplace else.
I don't care about a handful of people bragging about how lazy they get to be while making good money. You praise rich CEOs (who do exactly the same thing) while denigrating a few regular workers when some of them get to boast for a minute. You're a massive hypocrite in this regard and you have a huge boner for the corrupt super wealthy. This is not about you hating on lazy people making too much money, this is about your quest to prove how much edgier than everyone else you can be. You're just a contrarian for the drama's sake.
Do you work in the Tech Sector? Teams of 5 take down teams of 200 all the time. I've been on both sides. If you've never seen it then you lack experience in the field. There are a lot of lazy people in that 200.
It is far more than a handful of lazy people. It is almost ingrained in Tech Culture. THis is how people can post these oblivious videos about how lazy they are and think it is ok. People just randomly publicly announce on youtube, instagram etc that they are "quiet quitting". Not only are they lazy.. they are oblivious.
This is how we can get a game made by 3 people that is better than a game made by 300.
Why is everyone trying to end "work from home"? Because people are abusing it.
How many guard rails are put in place at your work place for the employees who work from home. Amongst my customer base they all spend substantial resources watching all their "work from home" employees. Why spend those resources monitoring performance if everyone is working hard?
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