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On August 13 2018 20:41 207aicila wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2018 20:25 Nakajin wrote:
In other news: Slayer Yugioh anounce retirement
But seriously it's kind of a strange move to erase all of his video, I can't see even the trolliest of troll giving a shit about the husband of a youtube semi-celebrity, nothing against her she's having a big succes but she dosen't seems nearly big enough to have to worry about a "scandal" comming from so far away from her.
Anyhow he/they probably know best and he does what he want with his creation. Man I agree that it seems like a strange move and don't even necessarily believe it's for the best, but to be honest your post seems a little bit out of touch with the reality of YouTube (and Twitch but that isn't directly relevant here) nowadays. Not even nowadays. It seems no one remember orb anymore, he was a streamer back in Wings of Liberty, not pro level but better at the game than a lot of the casters at the time who tried his hand at casting some Korean online tournaments (ESV Weekly maybe? doesn't matter). Anyway he was fairly small fry even compared to Rotti and Khaldor at the time, only a few hundred concurrent viewers before he became part of the official ESV cast. And then someone dug up some VODs from his personal stream where he raged in-game and said some fairly offensive things and that's all it took for his prospects as a caster or SC content creator to be over. Not saying it was undeserved, but it's something that happened within our very own community, to someone who was literally thousands of times less relevant than Husky by any conceivable metric. When you're a YouTube channel that gets tens of millions of views every week, the risk is a lot greater. Hell with some of the comments I've seen regarding this (and on past occasions) on /r/starcraft I'm almost more inclined to side with him, we have some really fucked up, entitled and frankly disgusting people here and there in our community. Not to mention every single caster in this scene has been shit on at some point, either for not being good enough at the game (lol) or for daring to try out and play other games (double lol). But yeah more to address your actual post, there have been tons of YouTubers and streamers who got harassed and doxxed for very little despite having had much smaller fanbases. Hell one of Husky's own friends some 5 or 6 years back had a problem with an obsessive stalker trying to harass her in all sorts of ways simply because she was a woman and he had a crush on her.
I remember the orb thing, like everything else, it was blown out of proportion but that was one of the first instances of the SC2 scene eating itself and it's content creators alive.
Why do people wonder why Husky deleted all his stuff? People already wrote the most probable reasons - years ago people weren't as SJW and people didn't troll/harrass online personalities as much as they do nowadays.
And for some reason this has been an issue that's plagued the SC2 scene since even it's inception - a vocal minority try to start a lynch mob because they personally do not like a personality, so they will find any reason to harrass them or try to drive them out of the scene, no matter how miniscule or stupid.
Smart move on his part to just get rid of all of his old videos or any that could be considered controversial etc. it sucks to lose more content creators for SC2, though he really wasn't active in past years.
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I loved his Effort music video..."he'd beat me, he beat Sea" haha...great content creator, RIP.
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On August 14 2018 14:37 avilo wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2018 20:41 207aicila wrote:On August 13 2018 20:25 Nakajin wrote:
In other news: Slayer Yugioh anounce retirement
But seriously it's kind of a strange move to erase all of his video, I can't see even the trolliest of troll giving a shit about the husband of a youtube semi-celebrity, nothing against her she's having a big succes but she dosen't seems nearly big enough to have to worry about a "scandal" comming from so far away from her.
Anyhow he/they probably know best and he does what he want with his creation. Man I agree that it seems like a strange move and don't even necessarily believe it's for the best, but to be honest your post seems a little bit out of touch with the reality of YouTube (and Twitch but that isn't directly relevant here) nowadays. Not even nowadays. It seems no one remember orb anymore, he was a streamer back in Wings of Liberty, not pro level but better at the game than a lot of the casters at the time who tried his hand at casting some Korean online tournaments (ESV Weekly maybe? doesn't matter). Anyway he was fairly small fry even compared to Rotti and Khaldor at the time, only a few hundred concurrent viewers before he became part of the official ESV cast. And then someone dug up some VODs from his personal stream where he raged in-game and said some fairly offensive things and that's all it took for his prospects as a caster or SC content creator to be over. Not saying it was undeserved, but it's something that happened within our very own community, to someone who was literally thousands of times less relevant than Husky by any conceivable metric. When you're a YouTube channel that gets tens of millions of views every week, the risk is a lot greater. Hell with some of the comments I've seen regarding this (and on past occasions) on /r/starcraft I'm almost more inclined to side with him, we have some really fucked up, entitled and frankly disgusting people here and there in our community. Not to mention every single caster in this scene has been shit on at some point, either for not being good enough at the game (lol) or for daring to try out and play other games (double lol). But yeah more to address your actual post, there have been tons of YouTubers and streamers who got harassed and doxxed for very little despite having had much smaller fanbases. Hell one of Husky's own friends some 5 or 6 years back had a problem with an obsessive stalker trying to harass her in all sorts of ways simply because she was a woman and he had a crush on her. I remember the orb thing, like everything else, it was blown out of proportion but that was one of the first instances of the SC2 scene eating itself and it's content creators alive. Why do people wonder why Husky deleted all his stuff? People already wrote the most probable reasons - years ago people weren't as SJW and people didn't troll/harrass online personalities as much as they do nowadays. And for some reason this has been an issue that's plagued the SC2 scene since even it's inception - a vocal minority try to start a lynch mob because they personally do not like a personality, so they will find any reason to harrass them or try to drive them out of the scene, no matter how miniscule or stupid. Smart move on his part to just get rid of all of his old videos or any that could be considered controversial etc. it sucks to lose more content creators for SC2, though he really wasn't active in past years.
orb reference, holy shit that takes me back.
Guy definitely had some idra-esque anger issues but at the heart of it didn't mean any harm. I still remember him getting upset when I did some marine/tank/vulture timing rush (or maybe it was a proxy 2 gate?). He he this calm but angry thing going on and asked me not to cheese.
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From SC2 to cupcakes. #HighStandards Kappa.
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Wow, that's really sad. I literally watched a few bronze league heroes videos this past week. I would show those to people who were starting out in the game or who played but weren't familiar with them. They were really funny! Miss you Husky!
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Well, dang. I'm an archivist at heart, and live on nostalgia so I'm sad to see anything deleted, and in Husky's case it's his parody music videos that I miss in particular. Fortunately there were pirates, so it looks like they're still up in odd corners of youtube.
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I didn't think of this earlier, but I hope he isn't really depressed or something like that. It makes me think of an artist destroying their work in a self-destructive identity crisis. I'm not saying I think that's necessarily what it is, but it worries me that it could be a possibility. I hope he gives us an explanation so we aren't wondering.
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Husky was awesome. I started playing and continued for a few years from beta. Just got back into the game after years. Sucks people have left but at least this old schooler has come back. I hope this game doesn't die. It's still the best. MOBA are easy and not as full-filling to some. Also, I think there are a lot of guys who don't like RTS because it is so competitive and there are no participation trophies.
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It's a shame, wasn't the biggest fan but his casting was easy to sit back and listen to, and he had great enthusiasm. It's the end of an era almost. Good luck in his future endeavours I suppose.
It's more than likely he has unlisted or made his videos private.
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With his channel deletion goes the only evidence I ever beat Grubby as a diamond in HOTS. Well I found a ghetto ass rip on some korean site that is like 80p but that's hardly the same as Husky's quality.
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Haven't heard that name in some time. Still remember watching Husky in the beta days, good times
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So basically he will produce meaningless booby videos. ok.
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On August 13 2018 20:41 207aicila wrote:
Not even nowadays. It seems no one remember orb anymore, he was a streamer back in Wings of Liberty, not pro level but better at the game than a lot of the casters at the time who tried his hand at casting some Korean online tournaments (ESV Weekly maybe? doesn't matter). Anyway he was fairly small fry even compared to Rotti and Khaldor at the time, only a few hundred concurrent viewers before he became part of the official ESV cast. And then someone dug up some VODs from his personal stream where he raged in-game and said some fairly offensive things and that's all it took for his prospects as a caster or SC content creator to be over. Not saying it was undeserved, but it's something that happened within our very own community, to someone who was literally thousands of times less relevant than Husky by any conceivable metric.
Wow, Orb, LUL. That bring back memories! Does anybody remember LZGamer too?
It's also good to see people who have been with SC2 since its inception. Everybody knows Artosis and Tasteless. But also, kudos to people like Incontrol, ToD, Rotti, CatZ, etc, who have stuck with SC2 since the very beginning.
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On August 14 2018 23:00 xelnaga_empire wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2018 20:41 207aicila wrote:
Not even nowadays. It seems no one remember orb anymore, he was a streamer back in Wings of Liberty, not pro level but better at the game than a lot of the casters at the time who tried his hand at casting some Korean online tournaments (ESV Weekly maybe? doesn't matter). Anyway he was fairly small fry even compared to Rotti and Khaldor at the time, only a few hundred concurrent viewers before he became part of the official ESV cast. And then someone dug up some VODs from his personal stream where he raged in-game and said some fairly offensive things and that's all it took for his prospects as a caster or SC content creator to be over. Not saying it was undeserved, but it's something that happened within our very own community, to someone who was literally thousands of times less relevant than Husky by any conceivable metric.
Wow, Orb, LUL. That bring back memories! Does anybody remember LZGamer too? It's also good to see people who have been with SC2 since its inception. Everybody knows Artosis and Tasteless. But also, kudos to people like Incontrol, ToD, Rotti, etc, who have stuck with SC2 since the very beginning.
LZGamer still streams every once in a while. I forget which game I saw him stream last but it was within the last couple months. Dude is still chill as fuck. It feels like yesterday he was on stream introducing the foreigner community to mass reaper vs zerg in WoL.
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On August 14 2018 23:05 ReachTheSky wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2018 23:00 xelnaga_empire wrote:On August 13 2018 20:41 207aicila wrote:
Not even nowadays. It seems no one remember orb anymore, he was a streamer back in Wings of Liberty, not pro level but better at the game than a lot of the casters at the time who tried his hand at casting some Korean online tournaments (ESV Weekly maybe? doesn't matter). Anyway he was fairly small fry even compared to Rotti and Khaldor at the time, only a few hundred concurrent viewers before he became part of the official ESV cast. And then someone dug up some VODs from his personal stream where he raged in-game and said some fairly offensive things and that's all it took for his prospects as a caster or SC content creator to be over. Not saying it was undeserved, but it's something that happened within our very own community, to someone who was literally thousands of times less relevant than Husky by any conceivable metric.
Wow, Orb, LUL. That bring back memories! Does anybody remember LZGamer too? It's also good to see people who have been with SC2 since its inception. Everybody knows Artosis and Tasteless. But also, kudos to people like Incontrol, ToD, Rotti, etc, who have stuck with SC2 since the very beginning. LZGamer still streams every once in a while. I forget which game I saw him stream last but it was within the last couple months. Dude is still chill as fuck. It feels like yesterday he was on stream introducing the foreigner community to mass reaper vs zerg in WoL.
Wow, the mass reapers in WoL brings back memories too. I remember back in WoL, some foreign Terran (it was a European I think), cheesed Idra with mass reapers at a major SC2 tournament. Shortly after, Blizzard nerfed reapers and made them useless in WoL, LUL.
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On August 13 2018 20:10 207aicila wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2018 19:46 Garbels wrote:
I don't know anything about the youtube sphere. What would be the point of closing a channel?
Is there a lot of upkeep(work) or legal worries? Some people have speculated that in light of recent events over the last several years he may have felt like some of his old videos could possibly have contained some kind of liability, anything that he would not want to be associated with anymore. He was a very big YouTube gaming channel at the time - something that people in the post-Pewdiepie era might not realize - but his girlfriend's channel which he's managing and whose shows he's producing is much bigger. The speculation is that he wouldn't want the risk of it being jeopardized by some disgruntled troll with too much time on their hands finding an instance from 2010 of this immature nerd dude having said something in one of his silly SC videos that could be considered questionable by today's (in this case today is a hypothetical near future) standards. Show nested quote +On August 13 2018 19:48 brickrd wrote:
husky was an awesome entry point to pro starcraft. it's a little harder to watch his casts now that i know more about the game, but he was a lot of fun and brought a lot of positivity to SC which i think it sorely lacks these days.
anyway, because i know they're coming, can we skip the dumb posts where people call him a "traitor" for not "updating his fans on his career" or whatever? or does every thread have to be about shitting on something? Well luckily this is TeamLiquid where the staff have some standards, not /r/starcraft where that iBleedorange imbecile even joined in the dogpile against Husky instead of doing his job as a moderator.
It is pretty sad if that is the reason for removing sc content, even though it is maybe not very relevant today.
Also, good god, that girl Husky is working for is annoying.
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Husky oozed positivity and I loved watching his stuff when I was just getting into SC. He moved on with his life, and doesn't owe anyone an explanation.
H to the Usky... Husky!
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On August 14 2018 23:09 xelnaga_empire wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2018 23:05 ReachTheSky wrote:On August 14 2018 23:00 xelnaga_empire wrote:On August 13 2018 20:41 207aicila wrote:
Not even nowadays. It seems no one remember orb anymore, he was a streamer back in Wings of Liberty, not pro level but better at the game than a lot of the casters at the time who tried his hand at casting some Korean online tournaments (ESV Weekly maybe? doesn't matter). Anyway he was fairly small fry even compared to Rotti and Khaldor at the time, only a few hundred concurrent viewers before he became part of the official ESV cast. And then someone dug up some VODs from his personal stream where he raged in-game and said some fairly offensive things and that's all it took for his prospects as a caster or SC content creator to be over. Not saying it was undeserved, but it's something that happened within our very own community, to someone who was literally thousands of times less relevant than Husky by any conceivable metric.
Wow, Orb, LUL. That bring back memories! Does anybody remember LZGamer too? It's also good to see people who have been with SC2 since its inception. Everybody knows Artosis and Tasteless. But also, kudos to people like Incontrol, ToD, Rotti, etc, who have stuck with SC2 since the very beginning. LZGamer still streams every once in a while. I forget which game I saw him stream last but it was within the last couple months. Dude is still chill as fuck. It feels like yesterday he was on stream introducing the foreigner community to mass reaper vs zerg in WoL. Wow, the mass reapers in WoL brings back memories too. I remember back in WoL, some foreign Terran (it was a European I think), cheesed Idra with mass reapers at a major SC2 tournament. Shortly after, Blizzard nerfed reapers and made them useless in WoL, LUL.
Yeah it's a shame they chose to deal with it in such an axe type of manner. They should have tried to rework the reaper to a better state at that point instead of neutering it entirely. They removed an instance where terran could interact with their opponent and did not replace it with a new instance for terran to interact. anywho, I don't want to stray too off from the purpose of this thread. I wish Husky had stayed but kudos to him for using his sc2 career as a springboard into some serious life changing dough.
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Yooooooooo this would be awesome!
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