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Northern Ireland27464 Posts
On September 05 2026 12:11 Jockmcplop wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2026 12:05 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On September 05 2026 11:58 TropicalHaze wrote: This is going way off-topic but I would like to watch GH and JJR locked in an argument. I can't imagine what the topic would be, since GH prefers to repeatedly focus on the same few topics, whereas JJR has the most unpredictable track record of random thoughts and comments possible. I'm not sure where the two of them would naturally overlap, unless there's a socialist wrestler committing a Canadian genocide. JJR's posts are easy. Remember the 1980s? That was better then, wasn't it. That's like 98% of them. Hey remember Seinfeld?
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On September 05 2026 12:11 Jockmcplop wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2026 12:05 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On September 05 2026 11:58 TropicalHaze wrote: This is going way off-topic but I would like to watch GH and JJR locked in an argument. I can't imagine what the topic would be, since GH prefers to repeatedly focus on the same few topics, whereas JJR has the most unpredictable track record of random thoughts and comments possible. I'm not sure where the two of them would naturally overlap, unless there's a socialist wrestler committing a Canadian genocide. JJR's posts are easy. Remember the 1980s? That was better then, wasn't it. That's like 98% of them. You're missing a Seinfeld reference and a personal anecdote of a felony you committed in the 90s.
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On September 04 2026 18:06 Artesimo wrote: Unless someone is malicious about it (changing their pronouns frequently just to annoy someone) it takes 0 effort and is exactly the same as when you have communication with someone only in writing and assume the wrong gender because they have a name that is gender neutral / usually for the other gender in your language. Unless you are a bit weird or there are some special circumstances you wouldn't deliberately misgender someone who's gender identity matches their sex either.
And with GreenHorizons you don't respect it just for their sake, but also for every other non binary person that might be reading, and to normalise it. I believe improving casual acceptance of nonbinary people is the way to erode the base for the fearmongering and instrumentalised hate and prejudice utilised by various political and ideological groups.
I would agree that it is a tragedy for the nonbinary community to have GreenHorizons be associated with them though.
EDIT: thanks for the correction DarkPlasmaBall Yeah pretty much nailed it on the head here. If someone is nonbinary and wants to be referred to with "they/them" pronouns, yeah you should just do that. Also someone said earlier something along the line that properly gendered pronouns are something of a sign of respect that you have to earn. I couldn't disagree more. Even if someone is a total piece of shit, you should respect their pronouns for the sake of other trans people who aren't pieces of shit.
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As todays WTF, i present you the white house arcade:
https://www.whitehouse.gov/arcade/
Who didn't want to build the wall in a tetris clone, or deport brown people in a snake clone on a government website. Clearly this is what a sane government does.
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On September 05 2026 17:36 Simberto wrote:As todays WTF, i present you the white house arcade: https://www.whitehouse.gov/arcade/Who didn't want to build the wall in a tetris clone, or deport brown people in a snake clone on a government website. Clearly this is what a sane government does. Those guys are gonna put the Onion out of business.
RIP satire. 4000BC 2026AD
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On September 05 2026 17:36 Simberto wrote:As todays WTF, i present you the white house arcade: https://www.whitehouse.gov/arcade/Who didn't want to build the wall in a tetris clone, or deport brown people in a snake clone on a government website. Clearly this is what a sane government does. Ugh these are so dumb and cheesy, trying to market racism and failed policies towards children.
I'm not going to play these games, but... for the Build The Wall / Tetris clone, it seems like the objective is backwards. In Tetris, you're supposed to keep the "wall" as low as possible by completing rows to eliminate falling blocks from the screen... but doesn't "trying to build the wall" mean you're trying to stack vertically and fill up the screen all the way to the top (which is how you lose in Tetris)?
Also, The Tetris Company has made an official statement against Trump's game and against Trump's bigotry:
"At Tetris we believe in the power of connection and bringing people together, not dividing them. To our fans everywhere: we love you, we see you, and we're grateful to have you in our community. <3 <3 <3 <3 P.S. The Tetris Company was not involved in the creation of ‘Build the Wall’. P.P.S. We take copyright infringement very seriously." https://x.com/Tetris_Official/status/2095933372019216384
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Northern Ireland27464 Posts
On September 05 2026 12:23 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2026 12:11 Jockmcplop wrote:On September 05 2026 12:05 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On September 05 2026 11:58 TropicalHaze wrote: This is going way off-topic but I would like to watch GH and JJR locked in an argument. I can't imagine what the topic would be, since GH prefers to repeatedly focus on the same few topics, whereas JJR has the most unpredictable track record of random thoughts and comments possible. I'm not sure where the two of them would naturally overlap, unless there's a socialist wrestler committing a Canadian genocide. JJR's posts are easy. Remember the 1980s? That was better then, wasn't it. That's like 98% of them. You're missing a Seinfeld reference and a personal anecdote of a felony you committed in the 90s. Even better if it’s a felony that almost certainly didn’t happen
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Northern Ireland27464 Posts
On September 05 2026 17:36 Simberto wrote:As todays WTF, i present you the white house arcade: https://www.whitehouse.gov/arcade/Who didn't want to build the wall in a tetris clone, or deport brown people in a snake clone on a government website. Clearly this is what a sane government does. Oh for fuck’s sake…
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Trump is trying to shrug off his illegal war and the damage it's done to the United States:
What to know about the Iran war today:
- President Trump called the war with Iran "small potatoes" and defended his vice president, who said Thursday it shouldn't be called a war, saying, "A lot of people don't call it a war. I call it a military conflict."
- U.S. gas prices surged ahead of Labor Day weekend, with diesel hitting a record $5.85 a gallon Friday and AAA predicting travelers will face the highest prices ever seen over the holiday weekend.
- Despite President Trump insisting the amount of oil flowing out of the Persian Gulf has rebounded, traffic through the Strait of Hormuz remains well below pre-war levels. Shipping data firm Lloyd's showed 102 ships transited the waterway last week, compared with 126 the week before — and that's compared with pre-war levels of at least 130 tankers daily.
Updated on: September 5, 2026 / 3:28 AM EDT / CBS News https://www.cbsnews.com/live-updates/iran-war-us-trump-diesel-gas-prices-labor-day/
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On September 05 2026 19:30 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2026 17:36 Simberto wrote:As todays WTF, i present you the white house arcade: https://www.whitehouse.gov/arcade/Who didn't want to build the wall in a tetris clone, or deport brown people in a snake clone on a government website. Clearly this is what a sane government does. Ugh these are so dumb and cheesy, trying to market racism and failed policies towards children. Among healthy school lunches, seed IRA accounts for children, and keeping the border secure, which ones do you consider failed? (There is also a game where you fly a bald eagle between Corinthian columns suspended from the sky but I'm reluctant to think even you would consider that an act of policy.)
On September 05 2026 19:30 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: I'm not going to play these games, but... This is so brave.
On September 05 2026 19:30 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: for the Build The Wall / Tetris clone, it seems like the objective is backwards. In Tetris, you're supposed to keep the "wall" as low as possible by completing rows to eliminate falling blocks from the screen... but doesn't "trying to build the wall" mean you're trying to stack vertically and fill up the screen all the way to the top (which is how you lose in Tetris)? It's not Tetris, the completed rows don't go anywhere. The aliens approach from the side and run into it. Confusion would have been avoided if you didn't think clicking the thing and seeing for yourself was a mortal sin.
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United Kingdom10017 Posts
Ahh nice. 1930s style propaganda in video game form.
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On September 05 2026 21:58 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Trump is trying to shrug off his illegal war and the damage it's done to the United States: Show nested quote +What to know about the Iran war today:
- President Trump called the war with Iran "small potatoes" and defended his vice president, who said Thursday it shouldn't be called a war, saying, "A lot of people don't call it a war. I call it a military conflict."
- U.S. gas prices surged ahead of Labor Day weekend, with diesel hitting a record $5.85 a gallon Friday and AAA predicting travelers will face the highest prices ever seen over the holiday weekend.
- Despite President Trump insisting the amount of oil flowing out of the Persian Gulf has rebounded, traffic through the Strait of Hormuz remains well below pre-war levels. Shipping data firm Lloyd's showed 102 ships transited the waterway last week, compared with 126 the week before — and that's compared with pre-war levels of at least 130 tankers daily.
Updated on: September 5, 2026 / 3:28 AM EDT / CBS News https://www.cbsnews.com/live-updates/iran-war-us-trump-diesel-gas-prices-labor-day/ 3-day special operation. Duh.
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On September 05 2026 22:18 oBlade wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2026 19:30 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On September 05 2026 17:36 Simberto wrote:As todays WTF, i present you the white house arcade: https://www.whitehouse.gov/arcade/Who didn't want to build the wall in a tetris clone, or deport brown people in a snake clone on a government website. Clearly this is what a sane government does. Ugh these are so dumb and cheesy, trying to market racism and failed policies towards children. Among healthy school lunches, seed IRA accounts for children, and keeping the border secure, which ones do you consider failed? All three. The first two (healthy food and financial stability for families) have taken significant hits under the Trump administration, rolling back better standards from Obama's and Biden's eras and not measuring up to what Harris had proposed to do if she had become president. As for the third one... Trump never got around to building that wall (and having Mexico pay for it), so that's a failure even by his own standard.
Show nested quote +On September 05 2026 19:30 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: I'm not going to play these games, but... This is so brave. Show nested quote +On September 05 2026 19:30 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: for the Build The Wall / Tetris clone, it seems like the objective is backwards. In Tetris, you're supposed to keep the "wall" as low as possible by completing rows to eliminate falling blocks from the screen... but doesn't "trying to build the wall" mean you're trying to stack vertically and fill up the screen all the way to the top (which is how you lose in Tetris)? It's not Tetris, the completed rows don't go anywhere. The aliens approach from the side and run into it. Confusion would have been avoided if you didn't think clicking the thing and seeing for yourself was a mortal sin. I'm not trying to be brave; I was asking a question and looking for an answer from someone who had played Trump's game. I appreciate you answering the question I had asked, though I don't appreciate you acting like a sarcastic jerk while doing so. Surely you can understand the initial confusion, since his game uses a Tetris grid and Tetris pieces, and the general public has even looked to The Tetris Company to make a statement about Trump's game.
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On September 05 2026 22:27 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2026 21:58 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Trump is trying to shrug off his illegal war and the damage it's done to the United States: What to know about the Iran war today:
- President Trump called the war with Iran "small potatoes" and defended his vice president, who said Thursday it shouldn't be called a war, saying, "A lot of people don't call it a war. I call it a military conflict."
- U.S. gas prices surged ahead of Labor Day weekend, with diesel hitting a record $5.85 a gallon Friday and AAA predicting travelers will face the highest prices ever seen over the holiday weekend.
- Despite President Trump insisting the amount of oil flowing out of the Persian Gulf has rebounded, traffic through the Strait of Hormuz remains well below pre-war levels. Shipping data firm Lloyd's showed 102 ships transited the waterway last week, compared with 126 the week before — and that's compared with pre-war levels of at least 130 tankers daily.
Updated on: September 5, 2026 / 3:28 AM EDT / CBS News https://www.cbsnews.com/live-updates/iran-war-us-trump-diesel-gas-prices-labor-day/ 3-day special operation. Duh. In and out, super fast, easy work, even quicker than covid, which was surely over by Easter 2020! Trump's current take also reveals that even he knows that he hasn't won that war. If he truly thought that he'd beaten Iran, he would have proclaimed this war to be the biggest, most important moment in U.S. history. He only dismisses and downplays things that are negative for him, which is precisely what he's doing right now.
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On September 04 2026 23:43 LightSpectra wrote:Trump tells Fed to slash rates or he’ll end trade with countries with U.S. surpluses: https://www.cnbc.com/2026/09/04/trump-fed-rates-jobs-trade.htmlSo he's threatening to end all trade with China, Canada, Mexico, the EU, Japan, South Korea, and numerous other countries. Economic equivalent of threatening to launch nukes. When is enough insanity enough?
This is absolutely baffling. Im not sure ig this is not getting more attention because people know he will have forgotten this threat a few hours later, or if people are confident the world economy is already ignoring what trump says....but this sort of threat is a short cut to floor the USD and drag everything along it :/
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On September 05 2026 22:56 KobraKay wrote:Show nested quote +On September 04 2026 23:43 LightSpectra wrote:Trump tells Fed to slash rates or he’ll end trade with countries with U.S. surpluses: https://www.cnbc.com/2026/09/04/trump-fed-rates-jobs-trade.htmlSo he's threatening to end all trade with China, Canada, Mexico, the EU, Japan, South Korea, and numerous other countries. Economic equivalent of threatening to launch nukes. When is enough insanity enough? This is absolutely baffling. Im not sure ig this is not getting more attention because people know he will have forgotten this threat a few hours later, or if people are confident the world economy is already ignoring what trump says....but this sort of threat is a short cut to floor the USD and drag everything along it :/ It's baffling from the perspective of anyone who understands economics or foreign relations, but remember that Trump has been consistently sabotaging our economy for years now and his only experience with foreign relations is cheating on his wives and paying for sex.
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On September 05 2026 21:58 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Trump is trying to shrug off his illegal war and the damage it's done to the United States: Show nested quote +What to know about the Iran war today:
- President Trump called the war with Iran "small potatoes" and defended his vice president, who said Thursday it shouldn't be called a war, saying, "A lot of people don't call it a war. I call it a military conflict."
- U.S. gas prices surged ahead of Labor Day weekend, with diesel hitting a record $5.85 a gallon Friday and AAA predicting travelers will face the highest prices ever seen over the holiday weekend.
- Despite President Trump insisting the amount of oil flowing out of the Persian Gulf has rebounded, traffic through the Strait of Hormuz remains well below pre-war levels. Shipping data firm Lloyd's showed 102 ships transited the waterway last week, compared with 126 the week before — and that's compared with pre-war levels of at least 130 tankers daily.
Updated on: September 5, 2026 / 3:28 AM EDT / CBS News https://www.cbsnews.com/live-updates/iran-war-us-trump-diesel-gas-prices-labor-day/ Can you still view the ship data week by week compared to prewar on that link?
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On September 05 2026 23:43 dyhb wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2026 21:58 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Trump is trying to shrug off his illegal war and the damage it's done to the United States: What to know about the Iran war today:
- President Trump called the war with Iran "small potatoes" and defended his vice president, who said Thursday it shouldn't be called a war, saying, "A lot of people don't call it a war. I call it a military conflict."
- U.S. gas prices surged ahead of Labor Day weekend, with diesel hitting a record $5.85 a gallon Friday and AAA predicting travelers will face the highest prices ever seen over the holiday weekend.
- Despite President Trump insisting the amount of oil flowing out of the Persian Gulf has rebounded, traffic through the Strait of Hormuz remains well below pre-war levels. Shipping data firm Lloyd's showed 102 ships transited the waterway last week, compared with 126 the week before — and that's compared with pre-war levels of at least 130 tankers daily.
Updated on: September 5, 2026 / 3:28 AM EDT / CBS News https://www.cbsnews.com/live-updates/iran-war-us-trump-diesel-gas-prices-labor-day/ Can you still view the ship data week by week compared to prewar on that link? Not in that news article link, but I think this website might be what you're looking for? https://www.lloydslist.com/hot-topics/strait-of-hormuz-crisis/spotlight-data
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On September 05 2026 15:11 Luolis wrote:Show nested quote +On September 04 2026 18:06 Artesimo wrote: Unless someone is malicious about it (changing their pronouns frequently just to annoy someone) it takes 0 effort and is exactly the same as when you have communication with someone only in writing and assume the wrong gender because they have a name that is gender neutral / usually for the other gender in your language. Unless you are a bit weird or there are some special circumstances you wouldn't deliberately misgender someone who's gender identity matches their sex either.
And with GreenHorizons you don't respect it just for their sake, but also for every other non binary person that might be reading, and to normalise it. I believe improving casual acceptance of nonbinary people is the way to erode the base for the fearmongering and instrumentalised hate and prejudice utilised by various political and ideological groups.
I would agree that it is a tragedy for the nonbinary community to have GreenHorizons be associated with them though.
EDIT: thanks for the correction DarkPlasmaBall Yeah pretty much nailed it on the head here. If someone is nonbinary and wants to be referred to with "they/them" pronouns, yeah you should just do that. Also someone said earlier something along the line that properly gendered pronouns are something of a sign of respect that you have to earn. I couldn't disagree more. Even if someone is a total piece of shit, you should respect their pronouns for the sake of other trans people who aren't pieces of shit. That is true, but in this case GH has not said GHs pronouns. Technically speaking I’m actually doing the correct thing not using pronouns because GH has not stated the ones he has preferred. GH is also partially at fault in this situation because it is customary to put your pronouns out there, if important to you in written communication because it is impossible to tell otherwise. It is not Kwarks fault for not seeing the “coming out”, and it wasn’t even clear. That people assumed GH wanted the plurals isn’t that awesome either because there is no hard and fast rule.
This is a big issue that non Binary have, including with their allies. Many actually don’t care which one you use as long as it’s not with malice. Like if my wife’s friend gets called a she at work, innocently by a parent or co worker she has no problem. It is in fact more frustrating for them when someone calls her and she and someone else makes a big deal about it because it doesn’t bother them and they just want to feel normal and accepted. To bring up the less charged somewhat similar issue ,if someone prefers Jim to James . Some don’t care, some get super mad and hate Jimmy or Jamie or whatever. It’s respectful to ask and then follow it.
On the other hand if someone was getting in their face and loudly repeating she, ma’am or he sir, I have been authorized to punch them in the face. Gladly (or sadly depending on my mood) that has not come close to happening in my presence and they say has not happened to them. Which I found kind of shocking in my redneck corner of the world. But most people are not looking to hurt people, they just don’t know and there is an important difference there.
Of course there are asshole and I hope they all get punched in the face, at least figuratively, but preferably fist straight in the kisser.
As for GH it would be kind and proper of GH to put GH pronouns in GHs signature, it is a pretty unrealistic and straight up dumb expectation for people to magically know what GHs preferences are. And no need to publicly shame people who innocently get it wrong. We have PMs if you are actually trying to help send someone a short polite private note.
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On September 05 2026 22:42 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2026 22:18 oBlade wrote:On September 05 2026 19:30 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On September 05 2026 17:36 Simberto wrote:As todays WTF, i present you the white house arcade: https://www.whitehouse.gov/arcade/Who didn't want to build the wall in a tetris clone, or deport brown people in a snake clone on a government website. Clearly this is what a sane government does. Ugh these are so dumb and cheesy, trying to market racism and failed policies towards children. Among healthy school lunches, seed IRA accounts for children, and keeping the border secure, which ones do you consider failed? All three. The first two (healthy food and financial stability for families) have taken significant hits under the Trump administration, rolling back better standards from Obama's and Biden's eras and not measuring up to what Harris had proposed to do if she had become president. That's funny you can't say Trump accounts, which didn't exist before, are a good policy, you had to divert to the alternate timeline of Harris and "financial stability for families." As though one of her stated policies was Kamalaccounts (she never proposed any such thing, and you'd have to admit such a thing was good to begin with, which you're not capable of evaluating).
What school food standards? The exact same sugar and sodium and saturated fat standards are still in place. The differences are encouraging protein, not banning 2% and full fat milk, and less processed foods.
On September 05 2026 22:42 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: As for the third one... Trump never got around to building that wall (and having Mexico pay for it), so that's a failure even by his own standard. Right his own standard. Which is unlike your standard, because you don't like walls, making it a success by your standard? Or which is also your standard, because you really want to build walls, so you think he failed. In which case I am here to reassure you. Don't worry, there are hundreds of miles of wall. Under the non-invasion-encouraging actual president who won in 2024, who allows DHS to perform their actual function, there are fewer than 10,000 border encounters per month. When Weekend at Biden's had that many per day. Let us know how to be even more successful if you please.
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