EPTOn August 24 2026 19:46 oBlade wrote:
Keep going to bat advocating for free trade with an island of penguins, it's an incredibly crucial issue and very productive, and you're making great progress.
Because it perfectly highlights how this is not a carefully considered strategy by Trump but just shit thrown at the wall.Show nested quote +
On August 24 2026 19:09 Acrofales wrote:
Indeed, trade deficit bad. You should definitely tariff more guano from penguin island.
On August 24 2026 16:49 oBlade wrote:
Correct, I do not.
If Canada's tariffs are bad then Canada can just not do them. *taxes own citizens* Look at what Trump made me do!
Or if tariffs are good then there was never an issue to begin with.
On the other hand, if US tariffs are bad for Canada it does not strictly matter as Trump, despite what you fear, not being president of Canada, is beholden to America's interests before Canada's.
Trade imbalances (you mean deficits?) do not happen only by accident.
You have what I like to call the "weather fallacy" status quo view of the world. However things are now, must be necessary. However things could change, is unnecessary. Just whatever the status quo is at any instant shouldn't be touched. In reality, not everything is by accident. When the US has a trade deficit with someone it's not just that in that moment the wind is blowing one direction, and another day there might be a trade deficit in the opposite direction. The deficits are emergent consequences of other factors.
"Blumpf lied" is not relevant here. You can call a tiger a lion and be wrong, and still be eaten. Calling trade deficits tariffs, an OBVIOUS rhetorical metaphor, doesn't make them bad, that's true. But the fact that it's a "lie" (metaphor) doesn't prove that therefore they're actually GOOD instead. (It doesn't prove the tiger is safe to approach.) Or if trade deficits are actually so good, fine, you take them. Problem solved.
Has it always been so transparent that couching all this shit in "Trump is destroying America" is often just when the administration has a policy that affects your native countries in a way you don't like.
I wonder how much inflation Carney's tariffs will cause as he destroys his citizens. In his case, the policy is apparently worth it though.
Can the US at this moment trust Canada not to backdoor an FTA with China after concluding negotiations with the US? When the US is in the middle of trying to strategically isolate China? In other words, is Canada interested in actually becoming Hong Kong just to spite the suggestion that it would ever become Puerto Rico?
On August 24 2026 06:04 Falling wrote:
Canada forced to reciprocate tariffs is precisely why Trump's policies are so bad, but you don't see it that way, oBlade.
Canada forced to reciprocate tariffs is precisely why Trump's policies are so bad, but you don't see it that way, oBlade.
Correct, I do not.
If Canada's tariffs are bad then Canada can just not do them. *taxes own citizens* Look at what Trump made me do!
Or if tariffs are good then there was never an issue to begin with.
On the other hand, if US tariffs are bad for Canada it does not strictly matter as Trump, despite what you fear, not being president of Canada, is beholden to America's interests before Canada's.
On August 24 2026 06:04 Falling wrote:
Trump forced unnecessary trade wars because he's obsessed with trade imbalances and lies to the American public, calling them tariffs.
Trump forced unnecessary trade wars because he's obsessed with trade imbalances and lies to the American public, calling them tariffs.
Trade imbalances (you mean deficits?) do not happen only by accident.
You have what I like to call the "weather fallacy" status quo view of the world. However things are now, must be necessary. However things could change, is unnecessary. Just whatever the status quo is at any instant shouldn't be touched. In reality, not everything is by accident. When the US has a trade deficit with someone it's not just that in that moment the wind is blowing one direction, and another day there might be a trade deficit in the opposite direction. The deficits are emergent consequences of other factors.
"Blumpf lied" is not relevant here. You can call a tiger a lion and be wrong, and still be eaten. Calling trade deficits tariffs, an OBVIOUS rhetorical metaphor, doesn't make them bad, that's true. But the fact that it's a "lie" (metaphor) doesn't prove that therefore they're actually GOOD instead. (It doesn't prove the tiger is safe to approach.) Or if trade deficits are actually so good, fine, you take them. Problem solved.
Has it always been so transparent that couching all this shit in "Trump is destroying America" is often just when the administration has a policy that affects your native countries in a way you don't like.
I wonder how much inflation Carney's tariffs will cause as he destroys his citizens. In his case, the policy is apparently worth it though.
On August 24 2026 06:04 Falling wrote:
But it doesn't really matter, because either Trump's negotiators are delusional or they deliberately spiked any agreement with us by insisting they control who we trade with. That's not a serious agreement unless they are planning on turning us into Puerto Rico.
But it doesn't really matter, because either Trump's negotiators are delusional or they deliberately spiked any agreement with us by insisting they control who we trade with. That's not a serious agreement unless they are planning on turning us into Puerto Rico.
Can the US at this moment trust Canada not to backdoor an FTA with China after concluding negotiations with the US? When the US is in the middle of trying to strategically isolate China? In other words, is Canada interested in actually becoming Hong Kong just to spite the suggestion that it would ever become Puerto Rico?
Indeed, trade deficit bad. You should definitely tariff more guano from penguin island.
Keep going to bat advocating for free trade with an island of penguins, it's an incredibly crucial issue and very productive, and you're making great progress.
