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On April 06 2026 03:53 oBlade wrote:Amazingly it was easier for the US to use an airfield in Iran (to rescue the air crew) than it has been to use airfields in Spain and Austria.
maybe this clears things up in Austria's case. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neutral_country
treaties, rules and procedures are for suckers obviously when being "awesome" and doing the best deals does the trick...
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On April 06 2026 05:53 Billyboy wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2026 05:50 dyhb wrote:On April 06 2026 03:53 oBlade wrote:Amazingly it was easier for the US to use an airfield in Iran (to rescue the air crew) than it has been to use airfields in Spain and Austria. Looks like we got the last of the aircrew out. By building an airstrip. 50 miles away from Iran’s third-largest city. Using hundreds of people to build it and operate to keep enemy military away from the downed WSO. Blew up the aircraft that got stuck, and brought in new. From expecting a hostage-like video and prospective torture to demonstrating the breadth of America’s operational superiority. Imagine what they could achieve if their operational superiority weren’t undermined by strategic incompetence. On April 06 2026 05:53 CuddlyCuteKitten wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2026 05:50 dyhb wrote:On April 06 2026 03:53 oBlade wrote:Amazingly it was easier for the US to use an airfield in Iran (to rescue the air crew) than it has been to use airfields in Spain and Austria. Looks like we got the last of the aircrew out. By building an airstrip. 50 miles away from Iran’s third-largest city. Using hundreds of people to build it and operate to keep enemy military away from the downed WSO. Blew up the aircraft that got stuck, and brought in new. From expecting a hostage-like video and prospective torture to demonstrating the breadth of America’s operational superiority. It's actually really amazing and it's not only that part. The helo rescue of the pilot was also pretty insane. It's not a joke that they are going to make a movie about it. On April 06 2026 06:09 Gorsameth wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2026 05:50 dyhb wrote:On April 06 2026 03:53 oBlade wrote:Amazingly it was easier for the US to use an airfield in Iran (to rescue the air crew) than it has been to use airfields in Spain and Austria. Looks like we got the last of the aircrew out. By building an airstrip. 50 miles away from Iran’s third-largest city. Using hundreds of people to build it and operate to keep enemy military away from the downed WSO. Blew up the aircraft that got stuck, and brought in new. From expecting a hostage-like video and prospective torture to demonstrating the breadth of America’s operational superiority. No one doubts that the US military itself is very competent and able to pull off stuff like this. Its the civilian layer above giving them orders that are utterly incompetent and almost certainly waging this war in a way the actually military did not want, but they either obey stupid orders or quit. Regardless of the current civilians in charge of the military, the story is wild.
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It is, and will make a fantastic movie. But it just brings to light what a colossal waste of resources this is. They could have actually done this and brought down one of the worst regimes on the planet. Or not done anything and been way ahead of where they are now.
Will the markets believe Trump about the Tuesday deadline? I'm guessing a drop regardless on Monday. If they believe it, it is going to be a big one.
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On April 06 2026 05:53 CuddlyCuteKitten wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2026 05:50 dyhb wrote:On April 06 2026 03:53 oBlade wrote:Amazingly it was easier for the US to use an airfield in Iran (to rescue the air crew) than it has been to use airfields in Spain and Austria. Looks like we got the last of the aircrew out. By building an airstrip. 50 miles away from Iran’s third-largest city. Using hundreds of people to build it and operate to keep enemy military away from the downed WSO. Blew up the aircraft that got stuck, and brought in new. From expecting a hostage-like video and prospective torture to demonstrating the breadth of America’s operational superiority. It's actually really amazing and it's not only that part. The helo rescue of the pilot was also pretty insane. It's not a joke that they are going to make a movie about it.
The question is who? Also, how much will Trump sell the rights for and will it be in paid in Trump coins or $Trump coins
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United States44353 Posts
Trump doesn’t own the rights to the news.
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Yet. But it is only one EO away.
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On April 06 2026 06:09 Gorsameth wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2026 05:50 dyhb wrote:On April 06 2026 03:53 oBlade wrote:Amazingly it was easier for the US to use an airfield in Iran (to rescue the air crew) than it has been to use airfields in Spain and Austria. Looks like we got the last of the aircrew out. By building an airstrip. 50 miles away from Iran’s third-largest city. Using hundreds of people to build it and operate to keep enemy military away from the downed WSO. Blew up the aircraft that got stuck, and brought in new. From expecting a hostage-like video and prospective torture to demonstrating the breadth of America’s operational superiority. No one doubts that the US military itself is very competent and able to pull off stuff like this. Its the civilian layer above giving them orders that are utterly incompetent and almost certainly waging this war in a way the actually military did not want, but they either obey stupid orders or quit.
What way do you think the "actual military" wants to do it?
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On April 06 2026 17:58 oBlade wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2026 06:09 Gorsameth wrote:On April 06 2026 05:50 dyhb wrote:On April 06 2026 03:53 oBlade wrote:Amazingly it was easier for the US to use an airfield in Iran (to rescue the air crew) than it has been to use airfields in Spain and Austria. Looks like we got the last of the aircrew out. By building an airstrip. 50 miles away from Iran’s third-largest city. Using hundreds of people to build it and operate to keep enemy military away from the downed WSO. Blew up the aircraft that got stuck, and brought in new. From expecting a hostage-like video and prospective torture to demonstrating the breadth of America’s operational superiority. No one doubts that the US military itself is very competent and able to pull off stuff like this. Its the civilian layer above giving them orders that are utterly incompetent and almost certainly waging this war in a way the actually military did not want, but they either obey stupid orders or quit. What way do you think the "actual military" wants to do it? I'm not a military expert, but you don't need to be an expert to see that 'bomb some stuff, they will close the strait as they said they would, we can't stop them from doing that and then the entire world economy will implode' is probably not their #1 plan.
I imagine their #1 plan might have been 'don't do it, its not worth it'.
But if your going to do it it would require a full scale invasion and occupation which is a lot harder then Iraq was considering the size of Iran and the mountainous terrain.
Which is why #1 is 'don't do it'.
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On April 06 2026 18:02 Gorsameth wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2026 17:58 oBlade wrote:On April 06 2026 06:09 Gorsameth wrote:On April 06 2026 05:50 dyhb wrote:On April 06 2026 03:53 oBlade wrote:Amazingly it was easier for the US to use an airfield in Iran (to rescue the air crew) than it has been to use airfields in Spain and Austria. Looks like we got the last of the aircrew out. By building an airstrip. 50 miles away from Iran’s third-largest city. Using hundreds of people to build it and operate to keep enemy military away from the downed WSO. Blew up the aircraft that got stuck, and brought in new. From expecting a hostage-like video and prospective torture to demonstrating the breadth of America’s operational superiority. No one doubts that the US military itself is very competent and able to pull off stuff like this. Its the civilian layer above giving them orders that are utterly incompetent and almost certainly waging this war in a way the actually military did not want, but they either obey stupid orders or quit. What way do you think the "actual military" wants to do it? I'm not a military expert, but you don't need to be an expert to see that 'bomb some stuff, they will close the strait as they said they would, we can't stop them from doing that and then the entire world economy will implode' is probably not their #1 plan. I imagine their #1 plan might have been 'don't do it, its not worth it'. But if your going to do it it would require a full scale invasion and occupation which is a lot harder then Iraq was considering the size of Iran and the mountainous terrain. Which is why #1 is 'don't do it'.
Also, start with getting allies around the world on-board with it, stockpile the resources that will have a disrupted supply chain and ensure we actually have the means *in the region* for the whole plan, rather than YOLOing it. But like Gorsameth, not a military expert, so maybe Donald "Bonespur" Trump had the right plan and we're all nincompoops for saying otherwise.
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On April 06 2026 17:58 oBlade wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2026 06:09 Gorsameth wrote:On April 06 2026 05:50 dyhb wrote:On April 06 2026 03:53 oBlade wrote:Amazingly it was easier for the US to use an airfield in Iran (to rescue the air crew) than it has been to use airfields in Spain and Austria. Looks like we got the last of the aircrew out. By building an airstrip. 50 miles away from Iran’s third-largest city. Using hundreds of people to build it and operate to keep enemy military away from the downed WSO. Blew up the aircraft that got stuck, and brought in new. From expecting a hostage-like video and prospective torture to demonstrating the breadth of America’s operational superiority. No one doubts that the US military itself is very competent and able to pull off stuff like this. Its the civilian layer above giving them orders that are utterly incompetent and almost certainly waging this war in a way the actually military did not want, but they either obey stupid orders or quit. What way do you think the "actual military" wants to do it?
The military exists to execute civilian policy. They don't want to do things but they for sure told Trump that regime change was unlikely without boots on the ground.
They can only give options and explain the likely consequences.
I assume the top generals who Hegseth fired explained that bombing civilian infrastructure is also unlikely to make Iran capitulate or force regime change and that it's also a war crime.
But Trump wants a strategy that wins him the war in weeks without boots on the ground.
Obviously no one in the admin is good at making decisions based on different alternatives where the outcomes are uncertain and based on likelihood of success.
It's very common. People will choose quick and cheap with a low chance of long term success over expensive and slow with high chance of success all the time, even against the recommendations of all available experts.
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I love that the US is flying humans to the moon for the first time in fifty years in an absolutely historic mission, but no one gives a damn and the administration is totally unable to capitalize on it because they are too busy unfucking themselves from the horrendous and totally predictable situation Dotard the First had put himself in.
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On April 06 2026 20:09 Biff The Understudy wrote:
I love that the US is flying humans to the moon for the first time in fifty years in an absolutely historic mission, but no one gives a damn and the administration is totally unable to capitalize on it because they are too busy unfucking themselves from the horrendous and totally predictable situation Dotard the First had put himself in. I don't think "we are doing the thing we already did more then 50 years ago" is historic at the best of times.
We went to the moon to prove that we could, but there is nothing out there for us to go back to other then to prove we still can.
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On April 06 2026 20:12 Gorsameth wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2026 20:09 Biff The Understudy wrote:
I love that the US is flying humans to the moon for the first time in fifty years in an absolutely historic mission, but no one gives a damn and the administration is totally unable to capitalize on it because they are too busy unfucking themselves from the horrendous and totally predictable situation Dotard the First had put himself in. I don't think "we are doing the thing we already did more then 50 years ago" is historic at the best of times. We went to the moon to prove that we could, but there is nothing out there for us to go back to other then to prove we still can.
I mean, not that i care all that much, but the fact we start again to send humans past the very close proximity of earth after half a century is really big. The fact it’s not the main things in the news right now tells you all you need to know about the dumpster fire the world is at the moment.
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On April 06 2026 16:05 Silvanel wrote:
Yet. But it is only one EO away.
Let's just hope he doesn't sign one saying Kevin Sorbo has to make it.
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His approval rating in Israel is higher than in the USA. I suppose it makes sense, if another country's leader is willing to spend endless amounts of their taxpayers' money and troops on your wars you'd probably think highly of them too.
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On April 07 2026 01:19 LightSpectra wrote:His approval rating in Israel is higher than in the USA. I suppose it makes sense, if another country's leader is willing to spend endless amounts of their taxpayers' money and troops on your wars you'd probably think highly of them too.
Also in Kosovo, but a US president's approval can't really get below 75% there. They made this banger after all:
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The only thing one can send to space is artificial intelligence.
Sure it‘s nice to think about mining there, but won‘t be humans who are able to travel somewhere to do that. And even if one sent an expedition, it might take centuries for it to complete the missions.
How do we survive ourselves is already challenging enough as a task.
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So 1980 Desert Claw was 250 troops to get 52 hostages rescued from locked up and armed guard. This alleged 2026 "rescue mission" for ONE HIDDEN GUY requires 200 troops.
Things that make you hmmmmm....
Fortunately, Trump and his regime has an extensive track record of 100% total honesty. So if they say it was a rescue mission for 1 guy and nothing else ... I guess the official story is 100% true.
Tellin' ya, where is Ken Taylor when you need him?
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Northern Ireland27456 Posts
Do you have an alternate theory? Not really clear what you’re getting at
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