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LightSpectra
United States2410 Posts
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oBlade
United States6028 Posts
On April 05 2026 05:11 KwarK wrote: To be clear, this is a real thing. Iran is currently controlling the strait with threats and giving/denying permission to ships for passage. They haven't hard closed it with mines, they don't want to, because if they did then they wouldn't be able to give permission to ships as easily. Therefore any remotely deployed mine system would still be embedded on the sea floor. https://www.strausscenter.org/strait-of-hormuz-mines/ This is a classic example of you simply not understanding how ignorant you are on the basics of the subject. I say mines and you're imagining WW1 sea mines washing around with the currents. One of the reasons the US is so reluctant to commit ships to the strait is because mine technology has evolved. That leaves you smugly saying shit like thisbecause you're literally incapable of understanding that you're less informed than these people. "How can she say it's mined even though ships haven't all blown up?!? Has she never heard of currents?!?!" The disconnect isn't that she doesn't know about currents, it's that you don't know about mines. I didn't say the technology didn't exist. You put forth an unfalsifiable claim that Iran has secretly evil genius masterplanned a bunch of mines that they could spring into action at any time. As some kind of coup de grace. Pre-laid. We can't wait forever to be sure that's wrong but so far it looks like it was an overestimation. Ships have been hit and damaged but so far in this war I don't think there's been a single mine impact. Oh oBlade you say, that's because mines are inherently deterrents, they keep ships away instead of being blown up. And okay we go back to... where are they all? In general, Iranian capabilities in laying any type of mine, bottom, moored or otherwise, remain largely untested and unproven. The lack of expertise increases chances that mines, either deployed via Kilo or small boats, will be laid unsuccessfully and prove useless in any mining campaign. Theorycrafted. | ||
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KwarK
United States43841 Posts
On April 05 2026 05:17 oBlade wrote: I didn't say the technology didn't exist. You put forth an unfalsifiable claim that Iran has secretly evil genius masterplanned a bunch of mines that they could spring into action at any time. As some kind of coup de grace. Pre-laid. We can't wait forever to be sure that's wrong but so far it looks like it was an overestimation. Ships have been hit and damaged but so far in this war I don't think there's been a single mine impact. Oh oBlade you say, that's because mines are inherently deterrents, they keep ships away instead of being blown up. And okay we go back to... where are they all? Theorycrafted. lol “there are mines” “lol noob ever heard of currents” “that’s not how mines work” “obviously I knew that” | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22201 Posts
If they wanted to get away from the White House they would go to Camp David, a secure facility designed to accommodate the security of a Presidential stay. Not Trump tho, he needs his own safe space. | ||
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Falling
Canada11477 Posts
You really manage to latch on to the lesser thing while defending to the hilt the main critique. No, there was no intentional bait and switch. My first sentence "Meanwhile, Trump has already managed to cost the government $100m so he can golf on his own courses." Trump cost the government $100M so he can golf on his own courses. True or not true? I then linked the article. My second sentence says exorbitant sums, true, and I could have specified that by exorbitant sums, I don't mean the whole of the $100M but some amount less than that but I thought it was unnecessary to add a third clarifying sentence. And quite frankly, such clarifications are entirely unnecessary to prevent your pedantry as the rest of your post is fully on board with this kind of spending- you agree in principle no matter the amount. (And, remember this is only one year, so we are on pace to easily surpass the first term tally.) You further straw man as though I think he should be living in a basement and never golf... just like all past presidents, right? There is an ocean of difference between 'never golfing' and golfing 103 days out of 440. And specifically flying out of state pretty much every weekend to golf on your own courses. Trump spending on himself is extravagant and is a conflict of interest to his own business interests. But it's Trump, so you don't care. | ||
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Doublemint
Austria8735 Posts
On April 05 2026 05:26 Gorsameth wrote: its funny how before Trump Presidents didn't get homesick and didn't have to run home every few days. If they wanted to get away from the White House they would go to Camp David, a secure facility designed to accommodate the security of a Presidential stay. Not Trump tho, he needs his own safe space. ask not what your President can do for you while in office, ask what you can do for him you ungrateful subject! | ||
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Razyda
929 Posts
On April 03 2026 11:04 baal wrote: Such a weird firing of Bondi, maybe it got into his head since "the apprentice" because his hair-trigger firing seem very bad for him, in the government these firing send a message of instability while maybe he just does it out of impulse. To be fair only weird thing about firing her, is that it took so long. she was clowned upon for her initial Epstein files stunt, then became hated after Kirk death for her retarded "hate speech is not free speech" remark, and then again almost all Trump base was openly calling for sacking her, after follow up of Epstein files release. On April 02 2026 12:27 KwarK wrote: There's a chasm between "the US is perfect" and "it'd be better if there was no dominant power". The last time we tried a world with an absent US superpower was the 1930s and it didn't go well. Even if the US isn't good, the existence of the role the US occupies is. We should not be happy at the US defeat here, we should be even angrier at the people who put Trump in charge and frustrated that he couldn't just once not fuck it up the way he always did. Just this once. When it really counted. Dude wtf are you doing? You are not stupid (far from that), but your argument here falls into "never go full retard" category. Your very example refutes your premise, because, like it or not, nazis were the superpower and thats what makes your argument fall apart, you literally countering your own argument( let me reiterate: Even if the nazis aren't good, the existence of the role the nazis occupie is. .) I am not even mad, just disappointed .Honestly when issue is non partisan I find your arguments compelling and interesting (eg: shares vs fiat currency [admittedly I do think you overlooked most important part of what makes fiat currency possible] which was brilliant display of knowledge and intelligence.) Unfortunately as soon as argument gets partisan your best response is "I do that, so its fine..." | ||
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dyhb
United States230 Posts
On April 05 2026 04:08 Falling wrote:@dybb. Still think this guy is a centrist? Same comment as before. The mixture of left wing and right wing views is one viable definition among several. Highlighting the right-of-center part without looking at the whole picture is foolishness. You might as well call Obama support, Bernie Sanders social security support, anti-Trump's election conspiracies, and Obama healthcare reform support as MAGA policies.Definitely right-wing on foreign policy. | ||
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KwarK
United States43841 Posts
On April 05 2026 11:30 Razyda wrote: To be fair only weird thing about firing her, is that it took so long. she was clowned upon for her initial Epstein files stunt, then became hated after Kirk death for her retarded "hate speech is not free speech" remark, and then again almost all Trump base was openly calling for sacking her, after follow up of Epstein files release. Dude wtf are you doing? You are not stupid (far from that), but your argument here falls into "never go full retard" category. Your very example refutes your premise, because, like it or not, nazis were the superpower and thats what makes your argument fall apart, you literally countering your own argument( let me reiterate: Even if the nazis aren't good, the existence of the role the nazis occupie is. .) I am not even mad, just disappointed .Honestly when issue is non partisan I find your arguments compelling and interesting (eg: shares vs fiat currency [admittedly I do think you overlooked most important part of what makes fiat currency possible] which was brilliant display of knowledge and intelligence.) Unfortunately as soon as argument gets partisan your best response is "I do that, so its fine..." When you sober up you should have another go at this post about Nazi superpowers. | ||
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baal
10673 Posts
On April 05 2026 05:11 LightSpectra wrote: "There's no sure in war" there wouldn't have been a war if people as dumb as you didn't vote for a child molester. wait did he vote for Biden? | ||
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maybenexttime
Poland5779 Posts
Hilary was so right about people like you. Basket of deplorables. | ||
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LightSpectra
United States2410 Posts
Posting this to culminate your weeks-long bender of nonstop misinformation posting is just chef's kiss. | ||
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CuddlyCuteKitten
Sweden2756 Posts
The op to get him (and the pilot) out sounds absolutely insane. | ||
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baal
10673 Posts
On April 05 2026 18:07 LightSpectra wrote: Posting this to culminate your weeks-long bender of nonstop misinformation posting is just chef's kiss. you are immune to irony | ||
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baal
10673 Posts
On April 02 2026 21:42 EnDeR_ wrote: My point is that as things shook out, there were enough doses for everyone (in the US, not worldwide). In fact, the US had a huge surplus because the problem wasn't production; it was that people were not taking them and ended up with millions in surplus. Therefore, if there had been a bigger production capacity, you'd just be subsidising other countries who didn't manage to get enough vaccines. Considering all Western democracies managed to get enough doses for everyone living there, you'd be subsidising vaccines for poorer nations, the infamous "shit hole" countries. I still don't understand why you think it wasn't a huge success considering they produced enough doses for everyone (again, in the US, not worldwide) in a record time. I took several months, production could have been much faster which means less deaths and reopening the economy, most of the time there is a tradeoff between money and lives saved but on this time they both aligned, it was a win-win and they dropped the ball. I don't understand why are you insisting on subsidizing as if something you must do if you make a megafactory in time, you can choose to, or not, you can sell them or do whatever the hell you want you are not forced to give them away. In "record time" compared to what? there is no comparison since there hasn't been a pandemic in modern times, so there is no comparable effort, what you can judge is what the state did, and they did nothing, private companies made a few upgrades to their facilities and that's pretty much it. | ||
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oBlade
United States6028 Posts
On April 05 2026 17:21 maybenexttime wrote: Hilary was so right about people like you. Basket of deplorables. Yeah that was just way over the line you can't just checks notes call a president a child molester. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States45444 Posts
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EnDeR_
Spain2848 Posts
On April 05 2026 20:16 baal wrote: I took several months, production could have been much faster which means less deaths and reopening the economy, most of the time there is a tradeoff between money and lives saved but on this time they both aligned, it was a win-win and they dropped the ball. I don't understand why are you insisting on subsidizing as if something you must do if you make a megafactory in time, you can choose to, or not, you can sell them or do whatever the hell you want you are not forced to give them away. In "record time" compared to what? there is no comparison since there hasn't been a pandemic in modern times, so there is no comparable effort, what you can judge is what the state did, and they did nothing, private companies made a few upgrades to their facilities and that's pretty much it. Baal, if you are genuinely interested in this topic, I would recommend you read this article: pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov It wasn't clear which technology was going to be the most successful, but in all honesty it's kind of mind-blowing that within 3 months of approval we were producing millions of vaccines per week. There were all sorts of challenges, from supply chain to skilled workforces that a gov mega factory wouldn't have been able to sidestep easily. | ||
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oBlade
United States6028 Posts
Tuesday will be Power Plant Day, and Bridge Day, all wrapped up in one, in Iran. There will be nothing like it!!! Open the Fuckin’ Strait, you crazy bastards, or you’ll be living in Hell - JUST WATCH! Praise be to Allah. President DONALD J. TRUMP | ||
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hitthat
Poland2339 Posts
On April 05 2026 21:50 oBlade wrote: What did the President of the United States mean by this? Tuesday will be Power Plant Day, and Bridge Day, all wrapped up in one, in Iran. There will be nothing like it!!! Open the Fuckin’ Strait, you crazy bastards, or you’ll be living in Hell - JUST WATCH! Praise be to Allah. President DONALD J. TRUMP That he is r-ded. Just after his own BAT-21 moment, the hight moment of this whole disaster, and that doesn't say anything because bar is set very low, he had to tweet to look like a complete maniac. | ||
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