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LightSpectra
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States2410 Posts
April 05 2026 13:44 GMT
#112641
On April 05 2026 20:39 oBlade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2026 17:21 maybenexttime wrote:
On April 05 2026 16:55 baal wrote:
On April 05 2026 05:11 LightSpectra wrote:
"There's no sure in war" there wouldn't have been a war if people as dumb as you didn't vote for a child molester.


wait did he vote for Biden?

Hilary was so right about people like you. Basket of deplorables.

Yeah that was just way over the line you can't just checks notes call a president a child molester.


Sorry, I won't do it again.

On April 05 2026 21:50 oBlade wrote:
What did the President of the United States mean by this?

Tuesday will be Power Plant Day, and Bridge Day, all wrapped up in one, in Iran. There will be nothing like it!!! Open the Fuckin’ Strait, you crazy bastards, or you’ll be living in Hell - JUST WATCH! Praise be to Allah. President DONALD J. TRUMP


Does it have to mean anything? Can't octogenarian child molesters just say things recreationally?
2006 Shinhan Bank OSL Season 3 was the greatest tournament of all time
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9803 Posts
April 05 2026 13:44 GMT
#112642
On April 05 2026 21:50 oBlade wrote:
What did the President of the United States mean by this?

Tuesday will be Power Plant Day, and Bridge Day, all wrapped up in one, in Iran. There will be nothing like it!!! Open the Fuckin’ Strait, you crazy bastards, or you’ll be living in Hell - JUST WATCH! Praise be to Allah. President DONALD J. TRUMP


I think it means "Someone send help I'm having another dementia attack"
RIP Meatloaf <3
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43841 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-04-05 13:51:27
April 05 2026 13:51 GMT
#112643
I think the key difference is that Donald Trump is a child molester and Biden being one is pure projection generated by propagandists trying to muddy the waters.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
CuddlyCuteKitten
Profile Joined January 2004
Sweden2756 Posts
April 05 2026 14:43 GMT
#112644
On April 05 2026 21:50 oBlade wrote:
What did the President of the United States mean by this?

Tuesday will be Power Plant Day, and Bridge Day, all wrapped up in one, in Iran. There will be nothing like it!!! Open the Fuckin’ Strait, you crazy bastards, or you’ll be living in Hell - JUST WATCH! Praise be to Allah. President DONALD J. TRUMP


1. He is once again threatening to destroy powerplants and bridges to completly fuck the Iranian civilian population.
Because the current strikes on military targets are unlikely to achieve his goals.
2. He really wants them to open the strait because he knows he has limited options that are good.
3. People have told him the Iranian leadership doesn't really care about their people and explained the life for civilians will be hell without power (which in Iran also means no water) and no ways to move people and supplies. He just thinks that sounds like a good argument.
4. Even conservatives on r/conservative got mad he invoked the lord on easter while making threats about violence so he tries Allah instead?
waaaaaaaaaaaooooow - Felicia, SPF2:T
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22201 Posts
April 05 2026 14:53 GMT
#112645
Just want to add that Iran has made it clear that they will retaliate by hitting neighbouring countries infrastructure if America does this. And they have made good on those threats in the recent past.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
April 05 2026 15:03 GMT
#112646
The conservative subreddit actively trying to suppress Trump’s Easter post is a perfect metaphor for the sunk cost fallacy conservatives can’t seem to overcome.
Billyboy
Profile Joined September 2024
1624 Posts
April 05 2026 15:16 GMT
#112647
It’s so strange to me when people are shocked by one of the least Christian men, doing non Christian things.
Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8735 Posts
April 05 2026 15:19 GMT
#112648
On April 05 2026 22:44 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2026 21:50 oBlade wrote:
What did the President of the United States mean by this?

Tuesday will be Power Plant Day, and Bridge Day, all wrapped up in one, in Iran. There will be nothing like it!!! Open the Fuckin’ Strait, you crazy bastards, or you’ll be living in Hell - JUST WATCH! Praise be to Allah. President DONALD J. TRUMP


I think it means "Someone send help I'm having another dementia attack"


I think it simply means he is extending "infrastructure week" (which is every week with him) to Iran. and just like in the US his (military) policies will leave them crumbling and turning to dust.
Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before the fall.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22273 Posts
April 05 2026 15:26 GMT
#112649
On April 05 2026 22:51 KwarK wrote:
I think the key difference is that Donald Trump is a child molester and Biden being one is pure projection generated by propagandists trying to muddy the waters.


What do I know ? Was a huge network, probs.
I know Giuffre recently died of suicide and her biography described exactly how she got in there.

Like, they‘re probably saving Trumps family the trouble. It‘s not like it isn‘t literally on wikipedia and they‘d still vote him.

Lol‘d at good tsar bad boyar.
oBlade
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States6028 Posts
April 05 2026 18:53 GMT
#112650
Amazingly it was easier for the US to use an airfield in Iran (to rescue the air crew) than it has been to use airfields in Spain and Austria.
"I read it. You know how to read, you ignorant fuck?" - Andy Dufresne
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43841 Posts
April 05 2026 19:07 GMT
#112651
On April 06 2026 03:53 oBlade wrote:
Amazingly it was easier for the US to use an airfield in Iran (to rescue the air crew) than it has been to use airfields in Spain and Austria.

Easier in what sense. They lost two C130s using that airfield. How many did they lose in Spain?
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
oBlade
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States6028 Posts
April 05 2026 19:26 GMT
#112652
On April 06 2026 04:07 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2026 03:53 oBlade wrote:
Amazingly it was easier for the US to use an airfield in Iran (to rescue the air crew) than it has been to use airfields in Spain and Austria.

Easier in what sense. They lost two C130s using that airfield. How many did they lose in Spain?

For landing, KwarK. They haven't landed any in Spain for this. It was in the news.
"I read it. You know how to read, you ignorant fuck?" - Andy Dufresne
CuddlyCuteKitten
Profile Joined January 2004
Sweden2756 Posts
April 05 2026 19:31 GMT
#112653
On April 06 2026 04:26 oBlade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2026 04:07 KwarK wrote:
On April 06 2026 03:53 oBlade wrote:
Amazingly it was easier for the US to use an airfield in Iran (to rescue the air crew) than it has been to use airfields in Spain and Austria.

Easier in what sense. They lost two C130s using that airfield. How many did they lose in Spain?

For landing, KwarK. They haven't landed any in Spain for this. It was in the news.


By your definition the actual sea of Hormuz is an easier airfield to use than Spain since they landed an A10 there.
waaaaaaaaaaaooooow - Felicia, SPF2:T
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18255 Posts
April 05 2026 19:42 GMT
#112654
On April 06 2026 04:26 oBlade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2026 04:07 KwarK wrote:
On April 06 2026 03:53 oBlade wrote:
Amazingly it was easier for the US to use an airfield in Iran (to rescue the air crew) than it has been to use airfields in Spain and Austria.

Easier in what sense. They lost two C130s using that airfield. How many did they lose in Spain?

For landing, KwarK. They haven't landed any in Spain for this. It was in the news.

Pretty sure airfields in Spain would be quite useless for S&R operations in Iran. It's about 4000km away. While it's a great gotcha, but Spanish airfields were never going to be used for this in the first place. That said, if more countries were like Spain then there wouldn't have been airfields for the F15 that was shot down to depart from in the first place and no rescue would've been needed in the first place! More governments like Spain would've been much safer for those pilots!
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43841 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-04-05 20:12:37
April 05 2026 19:49 GMT
#112655
On April 06 2026 04:26 oBlade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2026 04:07 KwarK wrote:
On April 06 2026 03:53 oBlade wrote:
Amazingly it was easier for the US to use an airfield in Iran (to rescue the air crew) than it has been to use airfields in Spain and Austria.

Easier in what sense. They lost two C130s using that airfield. How many did they lose in Spain?

For landing, KwarK. They haven't landed any in Spain for this. It was in the news.

Why are you amazed that it was easier for them to land a plane in Iran and hike to the mountain where the guy was hiding than it would have been to land one in Spain and hike to the mountain? The mountain where he was hiding was in Iran, landing in Spain and hiking from there would have been ridiculous. Do you not know where Spain is? Landing in Spain would have made the rescue much harder.

But if they had attempted to land in Spain without the permission of the Spanish government then the odds are better that they’d still have their C130s. Iran is comparatively more hostile than Spain. If I was flying a US plane and was told I had to violate the airspace of either Iran or US ally and NATO member Spain I would pick Spain every time.

Ultimately I think that the decision to land in Iran rather than Spain was based on factors other than the hostility of the government in question. I don’t think that we can extrapolate, as you have, that the decision to land in Iran rather than Spain is evidence that Spain is the more hostile party.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
dyhb
Profile Joined August 2021
United States230 Posts
April 05 2026 20:50 GMT
#112656
On April 06 2026 03:53 oBlade wrote:
Amazingly it was easier for the US to use an airfield in Iran (to rescue the air crew) than it has been to use airfields in Spain and Austria.
Looks like we got the last of the aircrew out.

By building an airstrip. 50 miles away from Iran’s third-largest city. Using hundreds of people to build it and operate to keep enemy military away from the downed WSO. Blew up the aircraft that got stuck, and brought in new.

From expecting a hostage-like video and prospective torture to demonstrating the breadth of America’s operational superiority.
Billyboy
Profile Joined September 2024
1624 Posts
April 05 2026 20:53 GMT
#112657
On April 06 2026 05:50 dyhb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2026 03:53 oBlade wrote:
Amazingly it was easier for the US to use an airfield in Iran (to rescue the air crew) than it has been to use airfields in Spain and Austria.
Looks like we got the last of the aircrew out.

By building an airstrip. 50 miles away from Iran’s third-largest city. Using hundreds of people to build it and operate to keep enemy military away from the downed WSO. Blew up the aircraft that got stuck, and brought in new.

From expecting a hostage-like video and prospective torture to demonstrating the breadth of America’s operational superiority.

Imagine what they could achieve if their operational superiority weren’t undermined by strategic incompetence.
CuddlyCuteKitten
Profile Joined January 2004
Sweden2756 Posts
April 05 2026 20:53 GMT
#112658
On April 06 2026 05:50 dyhb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2026 03:53 oBlade wrote:
Amazingly it was easier for the US to use an airfield in Iran (to rescue the air crew) than it has been to use airfields in Spain and Austria.
Looks like we got the last of the aircrew out.

By building an airstrip. 50 miles away from Iran’s third-largest city. Using hundreds of people to build it and operate to keep enemy military away from the downed WSO. Blew up the aircraft that got stuck, and brought in new.

From expecting a hostage-like video and prospective torture to demonstrating the breadth of America’s operational superiority.


It's actually really amazing and it's not only that part. The helo rescue of the pilot was also pretty insane.
It's not a joke that they are going to make a movie about it.
waaaaaaaaaaaooooow - Felicia, SPF2:T
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22201 Posts
April 05 2026 21:09 GMT
#112659
On April 06 2026 05:50 dyhb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2026 03:53 oBlade wrote:
Amazingly it was easier for the US to use an airfield in Iran (to rescue the air crew) than it has been to use airfields in Spain and Austria.
Looks like we got the last of the aircrew out.

By building an airstrip. 50 miles away from Iran’s third-largest city. Using hundreds of people to build it and operate to keep enemy military away from the downed WSO. Blew up the aircraft that got stuck, and brought in new.

From expecting a hostage-like video and prospective torture to demonstrating the breadth of America’s operational superiority.
No one doubts that the US military itself is very competent and able to pull off stuff like this.

Its the civilian layer above giving them orders that are utterly incompetent and almost certainly waging this war in a way the actually military did not want, but they either obey stupid orders or quit.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11795 Posts
April 05 2026 21:13 GMT
#112660
On April 06 2026 04:42 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2026 04:26 oBlade wrote:
On April 06 2026 04:07 KwarK wrote:
On April 06 2026 03:53 oBlade wrote:
Amazingly it was easier for the US to use an airfield in Iran (to rescue the air crew) than it has been to use airfields in Spain and Austria.

Easier in what sense. They lost two C130s using that airfield. How many did they lose in Spain?

For landing, KwarK. They haven't landed any in Spain for this. It was in the news.

Pretty sure airfields in Spain would be quite useless for S&R operations in Iran. It's about 4000km away. While it's a great gotcha, but Spanish airfields were never going to be used for this in the first place. That said, if more countries were like Spain then there wouldn't have been airfields for the F15 that was shot down to depart from in the first place and no rescue would've been needed in the first place! More governments like Spain would've been much safer for those pilots!


I think if the guy they tried to rescue was in Spain, the whole thing would have been a lot easier. He could just have booked a flight home for a few hundred bucks. (Or maybe thousand, no idea how much a plane ticket from Spain to the US costs currently)

So in that way, using an airfield in Spain would have been a lot easier if the guy had crashed in Spain.
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