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On March 31 2026 21:43 Velr wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2026 21:17 oBlade wrote:
In 1984 49 "red" states voted for Reagan and he gave amnesty to 2 million illegal immigrants. That makes amnesty conservative woohoo. Football and basketball are the favorite sports of "red states." Overwhelmingly. Very conservative. If Trump tomorrow gave amnesty to every illegal immigrant in the US, no one would be surprised if you would cheerlead the decision after about 1-2 days of being confused.
I actually believe treating immigrants like human beings would be the thing to make MAGA turn on him. They'll put up with the economy turning into a smoldering crater and their kids dying in wars as long as being openly bigoted is socially acceptable.
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On March 31 2026 21:17 oBlade wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2026 21:01 Jankisa wrote:On March 31 2026 20:35 oBlade wrote:On March 31 2026 20:18 hitthat wrote:On March 31 2026 20:06 oBlade wrote:
Nice the oil was flowing. Were any countries getting Iranian and Iranian-funded rockets and missiles that explicitly didn't want them, by chance? The international community's perspective on Hamas and Hezbollah and the Houthis and the IRGC and the nuclear and missile aspirations of Iran was what again - "not my problem." That was a super help to everyone in Syria and Israel and Gaza and Yemen. Beautifully managed. But at least China got their nice cheap oil. The great league of all nations came together and said "whatever we're impotent about that gun to everyone's head but hey at least oil futures are kind of stable." This is the international version of tyranny of the majority and directly responsible for decades of injustice. Aaaand of course the Americans came and decided it was so great idea to ingnite the powder in formentioned gun in everyone's head. Great plan. Hopefuly you are all proud of your incredibly cunning plan to ditch global economy just to "wake up" those foreign fools, while being the biggest promoter of fossil fuel that MADE THIS SHIT REMOTELY POSSIBLE, because wind turbines are evidently creation of Satan, aren't they? The rest of the world is actually capable of solving the problem, they just don't. But/because some of them are also the problem. Why would China go into Iran when they get oil at a discount from the fact that US sanctions narrow the markets Iran can access. You would have waited until the gun was nuclear and then smugly gone aha now Iran is finally safe? I actually think the lives of people affected by terror outweigh you paying more for gas especially when you should have already been driving an electric car like a good steward of the Earth. "Wind turbines are evidently creation of Satan" is unhinged straw nonsense. The US isn't stopping the rest of the world from running on windmills. Physics is. "Promoter" lol. Fossil fuels are not an American Western capitalist conspiracy. They are a natural resource and way to store energy. The US is not stopping wind farm projects and giving payouts to firms building them to stop and go away because of "physics", they are doing so because your mad King doesn't like wind farms. So much about the Republic and the Republicans. China and every other nation who doesn't elect petulant children is investing, heavily in renewable energy, USA is going in the other direction, again, because you have a president who is as stupid as he is old, thanks to people like you. Iran was happy to comply with the Nuclear deal until, again, your petulant King came in, tore it in half because it was one of Obama's big achievements. There was no threat of Nuclear weapons from Iran, they didn't arm or supply arms to their proxies at a rate any higher then any other Gulf states, but then Trump decided to assassinate their top official on his way out as a lame duck in a mockery of the Republic, because he could. You are as dishonest as you are brainwashed. That was in 2018. Since months ago Iran's negotiating position was "we are weeks away from 11 bombs and there is nothing you can do to get us to stop" and they launched a missile 4000km after saying their missiles were capped at 2000km, I find Iran's credibility on their own threat to be higher than yours. Kuwait and Bahrain do not fund terror and had nothing to do with October 7th. Not on board with the "boys will be boys" assessment of apocalyptic Islamist regimes. Trump has most of 3 years left. Lame duck period is after November 2028 if he doesn't win a third term. If wind farms are good they shouldn't hinge on the US funding them for the world. Otherwise name a specific fact or you're just complaining. Show nested quote +On March 31 2026 20:57 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On March 31 2026 20:06 oBlade wrote:On March 31 2026 16:47 Uldridge wrote:
You really sure like to play devil's advocate for the devil that is leader of the Republican party for not being a conservative. Your religion doesn't move me. The US doesn't have a conservative party. It's not the UK. It's the Republican party. Not the conservative party. Trump is even the leader of the Republican party now specifically BECAUSE he is not a conservative. Which I heard all the way through 2016. People were so sick of conservatives that even Republicans elected someone else. This is incorrect. The name of the party is indeed Republican, not Conservative, but Republicans are overwhelmingly conservative, and Trump's presidencies and campaigns have been overwhelmingly aligned with conservative policies. Trump's appeal was being a conservative, anti-establishment outsider (as opposed to originally being part of the political machine). He absolutely ran on being a conservative and has continued to push a conservative agenda. You got your conservative Supreme Court appointees, your conservative Cabinet members, your anti-abortion, your anti-immigration, your anti-environmentalism, your anti-education, your anti-LGBTQ+, your pro-billionaire, your pro-guns, your pro-racism, your pro-sexism, and plenty of other core American conservative values all being pushed by Trump. The red states overwhelmingly voted for him in all three primaries and all three general elections. The red in red states stands again for the Republican party, not for conservatism. You're running in a circle. Putting "pro-racism" and "pro-sexism and "anti-education" and probably others that I'm not strictly focusing on in detail, just preempting so you don't return with an absurd "aha so you admit this is a conservative value since you didn't specifically mention it wasn't" in one of your relitigate-the-entire-political-world lists is just inflammatory bullshit. In 1984 49 "red" states voted for Reagan and he gave amnesty to 2 million illegal immigrants. That makes amnesty conservative woohoo. Football and basketball are the favorite sports of "red states." Overwhelmingly. Very conservative.
Like I said, just a completely dishonest, brainwashed and deliberately ignorant of what I wrote post, really goes to show how little you actually believe in what you are writing.
I'm not sure if you are regressing horribly in your reading comprehension but my lame duck comment was part of a paragraph criticizing Trump's first term where he, as a lame duck president, 2 weeks or so from the inauguration of his successor assassinated Iranian and Iraqi officers in the middle of Kabul, kicking off the whole situation that little fascist bootlickers like you are now using as justification for attacking the Iran again.
I also like how you specifically went out of your way to specify Gulf countries and excluded the Saudis, you know, the guys who provided 95 % of the 9/11 hijackers, who are currently funding a genocide that makes Gaza one look small in Sudan and who are main exporters of Wahhabism, who caused Yemen to fall apart and caused a quarter million dead civilians there, had a NYT contributor dismembered in a NATO state etc.
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On March 31 2026 21:56 LightSpectra wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2026 21:43 Velr wrote:On March 31 2026 21:17 oBlade wrote:
In 1984 49 "red" states voted for Reagan and he gave amnesty to 2 million illegal immigrants. That makes amnesty conservative woohoo. Football and basketball are the favorite sports of "red states." Overwhelmingly. Very conservative. If Trump tomorrow gave amnesty to every illegal immigrant in the US, no one would be surprised if you would cheerlead the decision after about 1-2 days of being confused. I actually believe treating immigrants like human beings would be the thing to make MAGA turn on him. They'll put up with the economy turning into a smoldering crater and their kids dying in wars as long as being openly bigoted is socially acceptable.
nah, Reagan, the OG MAGA creator, won the biggest landslide in American history because he oversaw great economic growth. Trump's approval rating amongst his base is falling partly due to mediocre economic performance.
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On March 31 2026 22:07 JimmyJRaynor wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2026 21:56 LightSpectra wrote:On March 31 2026 21:43 Velr wrote:On March 31 2026 21:17 oBlade wrote:
In 1984 49 "red" states voted for Reagan and he gave amnesty to 2 million illegal immigrants. That makes amnesty conservative woohoo. Football and basketball are the favorite sports of "red states." Overwhelmingly. Very conservative. If Trump tomorrow gave amnesty to every illegal immigrant in the US, no one would be surprised if you would cheerlead the decision after about 1-2 days of being confused. I actually believe treating immigrants like human beings would be the thing to make MAGA turn on him. They'll put up with the economy turning into a smoldering crater and their kids dying in wars as long as being openly bigoted is socially acceptable. nah, Reagan, the OG MAGA creator, won the biggest landslide in American history because he oversaw great economic growth.
That's irrelevant to what LS said. LS said that MAGA would be okay with the economy collapsing, not that Republicans had never enjoyed a strong economy.
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On March 31 2026 21:51 JimmyJRaynor wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2026 21:43 Velr wrote:On March 31 2026 21:17 oBlade wrote:
In 1984 49 "red" states voted for Reagan and he gave amnesty to 2 million illegal immigrants. That makes amnesty conservative woohoo. Football and basketball are the favorite sports of "red states." Overwhelmingly. Very conservative. If Trump tomorrow gave amnesty to every illegal immigrant in the US, no one would be surprised if you would cheerlead the decision after about 1-2 days of being confused. Obama wouldn't be happy to see that. Because, you see, "we are also a nation of laws". He pushed for undocumented workers to pay a fine and head to the back of the line of people waiting to work legally in the USA.@4:06 "we are also a nation of laws. undocumented workers broke our immigration laws"
Yeah, that's the approach that works. At least if they can be employed.
Some internal bureaucracy that isn't run by billionaires could contribute to helping by making healthcare and higher education affordable, but since it's competitive individualism that drives the mentality there and you only get a chance to elevate with initial funding (usually by indebting yourself) while everyone who isn't capable of paying is pretty much doomed to die on the streets or take on less reputable jobs.
Somehow a big chunk of the population is scared of not having to pay for something that serves them but not of getting brutalized out of nowhere.
Kudos on them if they do find enriched uranium there though.
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On March 31 2026 21:56 LightSpectra wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2026 21:43 Velr wrote:On March 31 2026 21:17 oBlade wrote:
In 1984 49 "red" states voted for Reagan and he gave amnesty to 2 million illegal immigrants. That makes amnesty conservative woohoo. Football and basketball are the favorite sports of "red states." Overwhelmingly. Very conservative. If Trump tomorrow gave amnesty to every illegal immigrant in the US, no one would be surprised if you would cheerlead the decision after about 1-2 days of being confused. I actually believe treating immigrants like human beings would be the thing to make MAGA turn on him. They'll put up with the economy turning into a smoldering crater and their kids dying in wars as long as being openly bigoted is socially acceptable.
I don't know if you guys notice this stuff, but there's been increasing animosity towards affluent POC. There is definitely a swelling group of white people that are noticing POC that have been integrated into capitalist exploitation "above" them (think the lady at the Spurs game for example) and those white people are looking to do what they've done about it several times in this country.
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On March 31 2026 22:07 JimmyJRaynor wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2026 21:56 LightSpectra wrote:On March 31 2026 21:43 Velr wrote:On March 31 2026 21:17 oBlade wrote:
In 1984 49 "red" states voted for Reagan and he gave amnesty to 2 million illegal immigrants. That makes amnesty conservative woohoo. Football and basketball are the favorite sports of "red states." Overwhelmingly. Very conservative. If Trump tomorrow gave amnesty to every illegal immigrant in the US, no one would be surprised if you would cheerlead the decision after about 1-2 days of being confused. I actually believe treating immigrants like human beings would be the thing to make MAGA turn on him. They'll put up with the economy turning into a smoldering crater and their kids dying in wars as long as being openly bigoted is socially acceptable. nah, Reagan, the OG MAGA creator, won the biggest landslide in American history because he oversaw great economic growth. Trump's approval rating amongst his base is falling partly due to mediocre economic performance.
Economic growth was higher under Biden than Trump by literally every metric meaningful to 99% of voters. Reagan was also president 40 years ago, before social media and FOX News radicalized the right.
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On March 31 2026 22:03 Jankisa wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2026 21:17 oBlade wrote:On March 31 2026 21:01 Jankisa wrote:On March 31 2026 20:35 oBlade wrote:On March 31 2026 20:18 hitthat wrote:On March 31 2026 20:06 oBlade wrote:
Nice the oil was flowing. Were any countries getting Iranian and Iranian-funded rockets and missiles that explicitly didn't want them, by chance? The international community's perspective on Hamas and Hezbollah and the Houthis and the IRGC and the nuclear and missile aspirations of Iran was what again - "not my problem." That was a super help to everyone in Syria and Israel and Gaza and Yemen. Beautifully managed. But at least China got their nice cheap oil. The great league of all nations came together and said "whatever we're impotent about that gun to everyone's head but hey at least oil futures are kind of stable." This is the international version of tyranny of the majority and directly responsible for decades of injustice. Aaaand of course the Americans came and decided it was so great idea to ingnite the powder in formentioned gun in everyone's head. Great plan. Hopefuly you are all proud of your incredibly cunning plan to ditch global economy just to "wake up" those foreign fools, while being the biggest promoter of fossil fuel that MADE THIS SHIT REMOTELY POSSIBLE, because wind turbines are evidently creation of Satan, aren't they? The rest of the world is actually capable of solving the problem, they just don't. But/because some of them are also the problem. Why would China go into Iran when they get oil at a discount from the fact that US sanctions narrow the markets Iran can access. You would have waited until the gun was nuclear and then smugly gone aha now Iran is finally safe? I actually think the lives of people affected by terror outweigh you paying more for gas especially when you should have already been driving an electric car like a good steward of the Earth. "Wind turbines are evidently creation of Satan" is unhinged straw nonsense. The US isn't stopping the rest of the world from running on windmills. Physics is. "Promoter" lol. Fossil fuels are not an American Western capitalist conspiracy. They are a natural resource and way to store energy. The US is not stopping wind farm projects and giving payouts to firms building them to stop and go away because of "physics", they are doing so because your mad King doesn't like wind farms. So much about the Republic and the Republicans. China and every other nation who doesn't elect petulant children is investing, heavily in renewable energy, USA is going in the other direction, again, because you have a president who is as stupid as he is old, thanks to people like you. Iran was happy to comply with the Nuclear deal until, again, your petulant King came in, tore it in half because it was one of Obama's big achievements. There was no threat of Nuclear weapons from Iran, they didn't arm or supply arms to their proxies at a rate any higher then any other Gulf states, but then Trump decided to assassinate their top official on his way out as a lame duck in a mockery of the Republic, because he could. You are as dishonest as you are brainwashed. That was in 2018. Since months ago Iran's negotiating position was "we are weeks away from 11 bombs and there is nothing you can do to get us to stop" and they launched a missile 4000km after saying their missiles were capped at 2000km, I find Iran's credibility on their own threat to be higher than yours. Kuwait and Bahrain do not fund terror and had nothing to do with October 7th. Not on board with the "boys will be boys" assessment of apocalyptic Islamist regimes. Trump has most of 3 years left. Lame duck period is after November 2028 if he doesn't win a third term. If wind farms are good they shouldn't hinge on the US funding them for the world. Otherwise name a specific fact or you're just complaining. On March 31 2026 20:57 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On March 31 2026 20:06 oBlade wrote:On March 31 2026 16:47 Uldridge wrote:
You really sure like to play devil's advocate for the devil that is leader of the Republican party for not being a conservative. Your religion doesn't move me. The US doesn't have a conservative party. It's not the UK. It's the Republican party. Not the conservative party. Trump is even the leader of the Republican party now specifically BECAUSE he is not a conservative. Which I heard all the way through 2016. People were so sick of conservatives that even Republicans elected someone else. This is incorrect. The name of the party is indeed Republican, not Conservative, but Republicans are overwhelmingly conservative, and Trump's presidencies and campaigns have been overwhelmingly aligned with conservative policies. Trump's appeal was being a conservative, anti-establishment outsider (as opposed to originally being part of the political machine). He absolutely ran on being a conservative and has continued to push a conservative agenda. You got your conservative Supreme Court appointees, your conservative Cabinet members, your anti-abortion, your anti-immigration, your anti-environmentalism, your anti-education, your anti-LGBTQ+, your pro-billionaire, your pro-guns, your pro-racism, your pro-sexism, and plenty of other core American conservative values all being pushed by Trump. The red states overwhelmingly voted for him in all three primaries and all three general elections. The red in red states stands again for the Republican party, not for conservatism. You're running in a circle. Putting "pro-racism" and "pro-sexism and "anti-education" and probably others that I'm not strictly focusing on in detail, just preempting so you don't return with an absurd "aha so you admit this is a conservative value since you didn't specifically mention it wasn't" in one of your relitigate-the-entire-political-world lists is just inflammatory bullshit. In 1984 49 "red" states voted for Reagan and he gave amnesty to 2 million illegal immigrants. That makes amnesty conservative woohoo. Football and basketball are the favorite sports of "red states." Overwhelmingly. Very conservative. + Show Spoiler +Like I said, just a completely dishonest, brainwashed and deliberately ignorant of what I wrote post, really goes to show how little you actually believe in what you are writing.
I'm not sure if you are regressing horribly in your reading comprehension but my lame duck comment was part of a paragraph criticizing Trump's first term where he, as a lame duck president, 2 weeks or so from the inauguration of his successor assassinated Iranian and Iraqi officers in the middle of Kabul, kicking off the whole situation that little fascist bootlickers like you are now using as justification for attacking the Iran again.
I also like how you specifically went out of your way to specify Gulf countries and excluded the Saudis , you know, the guys who provided 95 % of the 9/11 hijackers, who are currently funding a genocide that makes Gaza one look small in Sudan and who are main exporters of Wahhabism, who caused Yemen to fall apart and caused a quarter million dead civilians there, had a NYT contributor dismembered in a NATO state etc.
With allies like, that I'd hate to hear about the horrible things enemies like Cuba are doing to the world.
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Aside from many other reasons, I’m surprised ‘oh no my energy expenditure has skyrocketed due to some war somewhere’ doesn’t seem to ever manifest in selling various renewable options to some who tend to be innately hostile to anything green.
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On March 31 2026 21:43 Velr wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2026 21:17 oBlade wrote:
In 1984 49 "red" states voted for Reagan and he gave amnesty to 2 million illegal immigrants. That makes amnesty conservative woohoo. Football and basketball are the favorite sports of "red states." Overwhelmingly. Very conservative. If Trump tomorrow gave amnesty to every illegal immigrant in the US, no one would be surprised if you would cheerlead the decision after about 1-2 days of being confused.
Wow also Trump could make it snow in Palm Beach July and I bet I'd cheerlead that. That's a thing that could definitely really happen. But you really burned me by admitting that at least basically the equivalent of the entire population of your country lives in my country illegally. It is a race to the bottom whether you know less about me or less about the American system. If Republicans proposed amnesty it would never get past Democrats in the Senate out of spite for Democrats not being able to take credit for it.
On March 31 2026 22:03 Jankisa wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2026 21:17 oBlade wrote:On March 31 2026 21:01 Jankisa wrote:On March 31 2026 20:35 oBlade wrote:On March 31 2026 20:18 hitthat wrote:On March 31 2026 20:06 oBlade wrote:
Nice the oil was flowing. Were any countries getting Iranian and Iranian-funded rockets and missiles that explicitly didn't want them, by chance? The international community's perspective on Hamas and Hezbollah and the Houthis and the IRGC and the nuclear and missile aspirations of Iran was what again - "not my problem." That was a super help to everyone in Syria and Israel and Gaza and Yemen. Beautifully managed. But at least China got their nice cheap oil. The great league of all nations came together and said "whatever we're impotent about that gun to everyone's head but hey at least oil futures are kind of stable." This is the international version of tyranny of the majority and directly responsible for decades of injustice. Aaaand of course the Americans came and decided it was so great idea to ingnite the powder in formentioned gun in everyone's head. Great plan. Hopefuly you are all proud of your incredibly cunning plan to ditch global economy just to "wake up" those foreign fools, while being the biggest promoter of fossil fuel that MADE THIS SHIT REMOTELY POSSIBLE, because wind turbines are evidently creation of Satan, aren't they? The rest of the world is actually capable of solving the problem, they just don't. But/because some of them are also the problem. Why would China go into Iran when they get oil at a discount from the fact that US sanctions narrow the markets Iran can access. You would have waited until the gun was nuclear and then smugly gone aha now Iran is finally safe? I actually think the lives of people affected by terror outweigh you paying more for gas especially when you should have already been driving an electric car like a good steward of the Earth. "Wind turbines are evidently creation of Satan" is unhinged straw nonsense. The US isn't stopping the rest of the world from running on windmills. Physics is. "Promoter" lol. Fossil fuels are not an American Western capitalist conspiracy. They are a natural resource and way to store energy. The US is not stopping wind farm projects and giving payouts to firms building them to stop and go away because of "physics", they are doing so because your mad King doesn't like wind farms. So much about the Republic and the Republicans. China and every other nation who doesn't elect petulant children is investing, heavily in renewable energy, USA is going in the other direction, again, because you have a president who is as stupid as he is old, thanks to people like you. Iran was happy to comply with the Nuclear deal until, again, your petulant King came in, tore it in half because it was one of Obama's big achievements. There was no threat of Nuclear weapons from Iran, they didn't arm or supply arms to their proxies at a rate any higher then any other Gulf states, but then Trump decided to assassinate their top official on his way out as a lame duck in a mockery of the Republic, because he could. You are as dishonest as you are brainwashed. That was in 2018. Since months ago Iran's negotiating position was "we are weeks away from 11 bombs and there is nothing you can do to get us to stop" and they launched a missile 4000km after saying their missiles were capped at 2000km, I find Iran's credibility on their own threat to be higher than yours. Kuwait and Bahrain do not fund terror and had nothing to do with October 7th. Not on board with the "boys will be boys" assessment of apocalyptic Islamist regimes. Trump has most of 3 years left. Lame duck period is after November 2028 if he doesn't win a third term. If wind farms are good they shouldn't hinge on the US funding them for the world. Otherwise name a specific fact or you're just complaining. On March 31 2026 20:57 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On March 31 2026 20:06 oBlade wrote:On March 31 2026 16:47 Uldridge wrote:
You really sure like to play devil's advocate for the devil that is leader of the Republican party for not being a conservative. Your religion doesn't move me. The US doesn't have a conservative party. It's not the UK. It's the Republican party. Not the conservative party. Trump is even the leader of the Republican party now specifically BECAUSE he is not a conservative. Which I heard all the way through 2016. People were so sick of conservatives that even Republicans elected someone else. This is incorrect. The name of the party is indeed Republican, not Conservative, but Republicans are overwhelmingly conservative, and Trump's presidencies and campaigns have been overwhelmingly aligned with conservative policies. Trump's appeal was being a conservative, anti-establishment outsider (as opposed to originally being part of the political machine). He absolutely ran on being a conservative and has continued to push a conservative agenda. You got your conservative Supreme Court appointees, your conservative Cabinet members, your anti-abortion, your anti-immigration, your anti-environmentalism, your anti-education, your anti-LGBTQ+, your pro-billionaire, your pro-guns, your pro-racism, your pro-sexism, and plenty of other core American conservative values all being pushed by Trump. The red states overwhelmingly voted for him in all three primaries and all three general elections. The red in red states stands again for the Republican party, not for conservatism. You're running in a circle. Putting "pro-racism" and "pro-sexism and "anti-education" and probably others that I'm not strictly focusing on in detail, just preempting so you don't return with an absurd "aha so you admit this is a conservative value since you didn't specifically mention it wasn't" in one of your relitigate-the-entire-political-world lists is just inflammatory bullshit. In 1984 49 "red" states voted for Reagan and he gave amnesty to 2 million illegal immigrants. That makes amnesty conservative woohoo. Football and basketball are the favorite sports of "red states." Overwhelmingly. Very conservative. Like I said, just a completely dishonest, brainwashed and deliberately ignorant of what I wrote post, really goes to show how little you actually believe in what you are writing. I'm not sure if you are regressing horribly in your reading comprehension but my lame duck comment was part of a paragraph criticizing Trump's first term where he, as a lame duck president, 2 weeks or so from the inauguration of his successor assassinated Iranian and Iraqi officers in the middle of Kabul, kicking off the whole situation that little fascist bootlickers like you are now using as justification for attacking the Iran again. I also like how you specifically went out of your way to specify Gulf countries and excluded the Saudis, you know, the guys who provided 95 % of the 9/11 hijackers, who are currently funding a genocide that makes Gaza one look small in Sudan and who are main exporters of Wahhabism, who caused Yemen to fall apart and caused a quarter million dead civilians there, had a NYT contributor dismembered in a NATO state etc.
There is a tendency among people of a certain disposition to assume that everyone from a country is the government. This happens most frequently with "Russian."
To my knowledge despite the 9/11 hijackers being mostly Saudi and funded by people from Saudi Arabia, were not linked to the government as such. Not as an act of national policy. Not as the explicit foundational message of its country that the US, which defended Saudi Arabia 10 years earlier, was its mortal enemy to be erased from the map. Some rogue members of it? I don't know, but I'm listening.
You previously said everyone was equal but now predictably contradicting yourself that there should be some priorities like I should have put Saudi Arabia ahead of Kuwait and Bahrain. In other words, your initial specious assertion that everyone is kind of like all the same bro, seems to fall apart if Saudi Arabia (theoretically) and Iran's terror dollars have achieved so much more.
So 9/11 being 25 years ago and not being non-conspiratorially linked to the Saudi government, I definitely find Iran to be the urgent case. However, I'm open. If you feel this strongly, please continue making the case of intervention in Saudi Arabia. If it's good, I will send it to the Nazi hotline I have with Stephen Miller but giving you full credit (wouldn't want to plagiarize).
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On March 31 2026 22:29 WombaT wrote:
Aside from many other reasons, I’m surprised ‘oh no my energy expenditure has skyrocketed due to some war somewhere’ doesn’t seem to ever manifest in selling various renewable options to some who tend to be innately hostile to anything green.
Fossil fuel companies have trillions of dollar to help politicians forget that renewables don't rely on Middle Eastern theocracies to function.
On March 31 2026 22:33 oBlade wrote:
If Republicans proposed amnesty it would never get past Democrats in the Senate out of spite for Democrats not being able to take credit for it..
Mitch McConnell once filibustered his own bill because he only introduced it to prove Democrats wouldn't support it, but they did.
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On March 31 2026 22:16 LightSpectra wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2026 22:07 JimmyJRaynor wrote:On March 31 2026 21:56 LightSpectra wrote:On March 31 2026 21:43 Velr wrote:On March 31 2026 21:17 oBlade wrote:
In 1984 49 "red" states voted for Reagan and he gave amnesty to 2 million illegal immigrants. That makes amnesty conservative woohoo. Football and basketball are the favorite sports of "red states." Overwhelmingly. Very conservative. If Trump tomorrow gave amnesty to every illegal immigrant in the US, no one would be surprised if you would cheerlead the decision after about 1-2 days of being confused. I actually believe treating immigrants like human beings would be the thing to make MAGA turn on him. They'll put up with the economy turning into a smoldering crater and their kids dying in wars as long as being openly bigoted is socially acceptable. nah, Reagan, the OG MAGA creator, won the biggest landslide in American history because he oversaw great economic growth. Trump's approval rating amongst his base is falling partly due to mediocre economic performance. Economic growth was higher under Biden than Trump by literally every metric meaningful to 99% of voters. Reagan was also president 40 years ago, before social media and FOX News radicalized the right.
media radicalized adults living in a 1st world country? that is not possible. if any adult is "radical" it is their own decisions leading them there and not the work of some media giant. Don't blame FOX.
Of course, online, these days everyone is calling everyone else a "radical narcissist genocidal misogynist xenophobic transphobic homophobe". Online people just love big words. So it is hard to tell who is radical and the word "radical" has lost its meaning.
I'm labelled online as an evil radical and yet I've voted for all 3 major canadian parties and both major US parties. meh.
No one IRL has ever said I'm radical. IRL, Libertarians criticize me for being too pragmatic. LOL. I get criticized IRL for observing too many information sources. According to a poster on here that makes me antisemitic.
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Where do you think people get radicalized, Jimmy? The grocery store?
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Trump has most of 3 years left. Lame duck period is after November 2028 if he doesn't win a third term.
already normalizing this absolute aberration by posing a "if" . not brainwashed btw
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On March 31 2026 22:34 LightSpectra wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2026 22:29 WombaT wrote:
Aside from many other reasons, I’m surprised ‘oh no my energy expenditure has skyrocketed due to some war somewhere’ doesn’t seem to ever manifest in selling various renewable options to some who tend to be innately hostile to anything green. Fossil fuel companies have trillions of dollar to help politicians forget that renewables don't rely on Middle Eastern theocracies to function. Show nested quote +On March 31 2026 22:33 oBlade wrote:
If Republicans proposed amnesty it would never get past Democrats in the Senate out of spite for Democrats not being able to take credit for it.. Mitch McConnell once filibustered his own bill because he only introduced it to prove Democrats wouldn't support it, but they did.
That’s explicable, albeit depressing, I was talking more about the public sentiment side of it.
It’s like some people have an attachment to fossil fuels that goes beyond practical considerations and pros and cons
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On March 31 2026 22:45 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
No one IRL has ever said I'm radical. IRL, Libertarians criticize me for being too pragmatic. LOL. I get criticized IRL for observing too many information sources.
Are you a keyboard warrior or are you surrounded with people more indoctrinated than yourself?
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Northern Ireland26483 Posts
On March 31 2026 22:45 JimmyJRaynor wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2026 22:16 LightSpectra wrote:On March 31 2026 22:07 JimmyJRaynor wrote:On March 31 2026 21:56 LightSpectra wrote:On March 31 2026 21:43 Velr wrote:On March 31 2026 21:17 oBlade wrote:
In 1984 49 "red" states voted for Reagan and he gave amnesty to 2 million illegal immigrants. That makes amnesty conservative woohoo. Football and basketball are the favorite sports of "red states." Overwhelmingly. Very conservative. If Trump tomorrow gave amnesty to every illegal immigrant in the US, no one would be surprised if you would cheerlead the decision after about 1-2 days of being confused. I actually believe treating immigrants like human beings would be the thing to make MAGA turn on him. They'll put up with the economy turning into a smoldering crater and their kids dying in wars as long as being openly bigoted is socially acceptable. nah, Reagan, the OG MAGA creator, won the biggest landslide in American history because he oversaw great economic growth. Trump's approval rating amongst his base is falling partly due to mediocre economic performance. Economic growth was higher under Biden than Trump by literally every metric meaningful to 99% of voters. Reagan was also president 40 years ago, before social media and FOX News radicalized the right. media radicalized adults living in a 1st world country? that is not possible. if any adult is "radical" it is their own decisions leading them there and not the work of some media giant. Don't blame FOX. Of course, online, these days everyone is calling everyone else a "radical narcissist genocidal misogynist xenophobic transphobic homophobe". Online people just love big words. So it is hard to tell who is radical and the word "radical" has lost its meaning. I'm labelled online as an evil radical and yet I've voted for all 3 major canadian parties and both major US parties. meh. No one IRL has ever said I'm radical. IRL, Libertarians criticize me for being too pragmatic. LOL. I get criticized IRL for observing too many information sources. According to a poster on here that makes me antisemitic.
How is it not possible? Do you think the rich and the powerful throw money at various forms of media if it didn’t help sway opinions?
Two things can be true. People can overly liberally use various labels, while a certain degree of radicalisation can also be occurring. And it’s a matter of degrees, one can be moved in that direction without being ‘a radical’ so to speak.
Not necessarily everyone who voted for Trump, but the real die-hard MAGA core seems more extreme than any prior Republican-aligned movement I’ve had experience with.
Nobody claimed you were anti-Semitic for ‘observing too many information sources’ man
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On March 31 2026 20:15 Biff The Understudy wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2026 20:06 oBlade wrote:On March 31 2026 16:47 Uldridge wrote:
I think he's talking accountability?
He starts shit, drives prices up globally, sacrificed Americans because of it, and then basically says; whatever, you can have it now, I'm bored of this. The 25th amendment has nothing to do with "accountability." The assumption that you should hold a US president accountable for surrendering something, depends on that thing actually being the US or the US president's to surrender. The Strait of Hormuz isn't. It's like saying the US would surrender Antarctica. Does not make sense to start with. It's based on a misapprehension. On March 31 2026 16:47 Uldridge wrote:
The rest of the world is fine talking with other countries and making deals, we can do that. The US has repeatedly shown last year alone it can't and won't and throws explosive hissy fits when doing so. I look forward to "the rest of the world" making a productive deal with the rational actor of Iran. On March 31 2026 16:47 Uldridge wrote:
You really sure like to play devil's advocate for the devil that is leader of the Republican party for not being a conservative. Your religion doesn't move me. The US doesn't have a conservative party. It's not the UK. It's the Republican party. Not the conservative party. Trump is even the leader of the Republican party now specifically BECAUSE he is not a conservative. Which I heard all the way through 2016. People were so sick of conservatives that even Republicans elected someone else. On March 31 2026 16:49 Gorsameth wrote:On March 31 2026 16:36 oBlade wrote:On March 31 2026 15:43 Acrofales wrote:
If anything is going to get people using the 25th amendment to chuck him out, it's surrendering the Hormuz strait to Iran. But Vance is a fucking lunatic, so is that truly an improvement? That's funny to think that every country in the world minus the US and Iran is incapable of getting their oil out of the Persian Gulf without the help of the US. No, every country in the world was getting their oil, and gas, just fine before Trump decided to fuck everything up with a half arsed war. Nice the oil was flowing. Were any countries getting Iranian and Iranian-funded rockets and missiles that explicitly didn't want them, by chance? The international community's perspective on Hamas and Hezbollah and the Houthis and the IRGC and the nuclear and missile aspirations of Iran was what again - "not my problem." That was a super help to everyone in Syria and Israel and Gaza and Yemen. Beautifully managed. But at least China got their nice cheap oil. The great league of all nations came together and said "whatever we're impotent about that gun to everyone's head but hey at least oil futures are kind of stable." This is the international version of tyranny of the majority and directly responsible for decades of injustice. Do you seriously think that this war is well thought through, that the strategy is clear and that the whole thing is generally a good idea? Honestly i refuse to believe it.
You are not going to get this answered, it’s to straight forward and undeniable even for our resident debatelord.
On March 31 2026 22:56 misirlou wrote:Show nested quote +Trump has most of 3 years left. Lame duck period is after November 2028 if he doesn't win a third term. already normalizing this absolute aberration by posing a "if" . not brainwashed btw
The only upside will be watching and laughing at Republican and MAGA voting in some one older than Biden was at the end of his term, because age equals wisdom or whatever mental gymnastics they come up with.
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On March 31 2026 22:56 misirlou wrote:Show nested quote +Trump has most of 3 years left. Lame duck period is after November 2028 if he doesn't win a third term. already normalizing this absolute aberration by posing a "if" . not brainwashed btw
You got filtered by the most obvious joke imaginable.
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On March 31 2026 23:20 oBlade wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2026 22:56 misirlou wrote:Trump has most of 3 years left. Lame duck period is after November 2028 if he doesn't win a third term. already normalizing this absolute aberration by posing a "if" . not brainwashed btw You got filtered by the most obvious joke imaginable.
Maybe it's a joke to you, but not to millions of americans who will willingly follow him to a third term. You know this. but instead you decide to try to troll me. /shrug
also saying that after you completely misread what the situation was about, in a great display of intelligence, here you are trying to sound smart
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