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On March 31 2026 04:26 Jankisa wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2026 03:42 KwarK wrote:While skimming Trump's truth for new Iran content I found this. But don't worry, I have it on good authority that he's only joking about not leaving power. Even though last time he was told to leave power he attempted a coup. In other news, Russian oil tankers have breached the fuel "blockade" around Cuba by sailing through it in a move that Trump explained as I told them, if a country wants to send some oil into Cuba right now, I have no problem. The effectiveness of the blockade is now in question. Also the Times of Israel published an article 2 days ago with an explanation of what happened to the Kurdish proxy force plan in Iran. Essentially Israel came up with the plan of fragmenting Iran on ethnic lines as part of their goal of deconstructing it and ideally causing a civil war. The US started meeting with Iranian Kurdish leaders on March 3 but then decided to leak that they were doing it. This caused two immediate responses. The first was the Iranian army launching a preemptive strike against Iranian Kurdish groups. The second was that Turkey, the regional power with the largest and most capable army and a nation that directly borders the Kurdish regions of Iran, calling up Trump and saying that if that plan went ahead they'd be directly entering the war as a third side that was broadly Iran aligned. They would not tolerate the creation of a Kurdistan on their borders. The clown show continues. As always, the political and strategic savvy of the current Trump admin is on full display, what a masterclass of shooting yourself in the dick. There has been increased tension between Israel and Türkiye, ex-PM Naftali Bennet called them "the next Iran" and said "Tehran 2026 is Ankara 2036", he's trying to position himself to the right of Nethyanahu, his party started sliding in polls while Likud got a boost from attacking Iran, so, he decided to take it a step further. Israels belligerence is not going to get better any time soon and they have been dangerously close to open hostilities with Türkiye for a while, bombing their allies in Syria and sharpening the rethoric. Of course, I am no fan of Erdogan, Turkish nationalism or their treatment of Kurds, but Israel has demonstrated its willingness to destabilize the whole world, at some point, Trump is going to leave them out in the cold like he does with everyone eventually (except Putin) and I don't even want to think all the ways this can go wrong, especially with their "secret" Nuclear weapons program. I wasn't aware there was room on the right of Netanyahu...
On March 31 2026 06:42 WombaT wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2026 03:42 KwarK wrote:While skimming Trump's truth for new Iran content I found this. But don't worry, I have it on good authority that he's only joking about not leaving power. Even though last time he was told to leave power he attempted a coup. In other news, Russian oil tankers have breached the fuel "blockade" around Cuba by sailing through it in a move that Trump explained as I told them, if a country wants to send some oil into Cuba right now, I have no problem. The effectiveness of the blockade is now in question. Also the Times of Israel published an article 2 days ago with an explanation of what happened to the Kurdish proxy force plan in Iran. Essentially Israel came up with the plan of fragmenting Iran on ethnic lines as part of their goal of deconstructing it and ideally causing a civil war. The US started meeting with Iranian Kurdish leaders on March 3 but then decided to leak that they were doing it. This caused two immediate responses. The first was the Iranian army launching a preemptive strike against Iranian Kurdish groups. The second was that Turkey, the regional power with the largest and most capable army and a nation that directly borders the Kurdish regions of Iran, calling up Trump and saying that if that plan went ahead they'd be directly entering the war as a third side that was broadly Iran aligned. They would not tolerate the creation of a Kurdistan on their borders. The clown show continues. Hopefully the next bloke or blokette has better aim… Joking aside, there’s such a vibe of incompetence exhibited through this conflict thus far that I really can’t recall anything comparable. It’s really quite something Aside from Occam’s Razor I can’t think of too many alternative explanations. I think the closest comparison might be Russians invasion of Ukraine. All that is missing is for the US to kill of an elite military regiment on a foolish attack deep in enemy territory. So I'd give it until friday after the stockmarket closes.
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United States43762 Posts
On March 31 2026 06:42 WombaT wrote: Joking aside, there’s such a vibe of incompetence exhibited through this conflict thus far that I really can’t recall anything comparable. It’s really quite something
Aside from Occam’s Razor I can’t think of too many alternative explanations. One thing does come to mind.
During the siege of the German 6th Army in Stalingrad Goering, who was incidentally an active morphine addict, volunteered the idea that maybe they could supply the besieged army by air. We're looking at about a quarter million men who were engaged in active combat, consumption is estimated at about 1,000 tons of supplies daily. Shells, small arms ammunition, fuel, food, clothing, and so forth.
It would have been an absolutely gargantuan task in peacetime. You'd need dozens of airfields, each fed by warehouses of inventory fed by train lines, plus fuel storage. And tens of thousands of loaders. Then on the besieged side you'd need dozens of airfields too, tens of thousands of unloaders, and the inventory arriving would need to be sorted, cataloged, and dispatched to where it was needed.
This plan was attempted without considering fuel shortages, a lack of secure runways, a lack of heavy freight aircraft, unfavourable weather, and of course, the Red Army Air Force because there was a war on.
It was a failure of truly breathtaking proportions. One imagines a medium bomber landing, its internal volume half filled with crates of shells due to the weight limitations on bringing enough fuel for the return trip. Paulus unloads the shells, and in the background the silence is broken by the thunder of guns. "Great, when's the next one" asks Paulus. "Next one?" asks Goering, "You used them already? How many shells could you possibly need? If the weather is good I'll be back tomorrow".
The 6th Army ultimately had about a 99% fatality rate.
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Northern Ireland26479 Posts
On March 31 2026 07:01 KwarK wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2026 06:42 WombaT wrote: Joking aside, there’s such a vibe of incompetence exhibited through this conflict thus far that I really can’t recall anything comparable. It’s really quite something
Aside from Occam’s Razor I can’t think of too many alternative explanations. One thing does come to mind. During the siege of the German 6th Army in Stalingrad Goering, who was incidentally an active morphine addict, volunteered the idea that maybe they could supply the besieged army by air. We're looking at about a quarter million men who were engaged in active combat, consumption is estimated at about 1,000 tons of supplies daily. Shells, small arms ammunition, fuel, food, clothing, and so forth. It would have been an absolutely gargantuan task in peacetime. You'd need dozens of airfields, each fed by warehouses of inventory fed by train lines, plus fuel storage. And tens of thousands of loaders. Then on the besieged side you'd need dozens of airfields too, tens of thousands of unloaders, and the inventory arriving would need to be sorted, cataloged, and dispatched to where it was needed. This plan was attempted without considering fuel shortages, a lack of secure runways, a lack of heavy freight aircraft, unfavourable weather, and of course, the Red Army Air Force because there was a war on. It was a failure of truly breathtaking proportions. One imagines a medium bomber landing, its internal volume half filled with crates of shells due to the weight limitations on bringing enough fuel for the return trip. Paulus unloads the shells, and in the background the silence is broken by the thunder of guns. "Great, when's the next one" asks Paulus. "Next one?" asks Goering, "You used them already? How many shells could you possibly need? If the weather is good I'll be back tomorrow". The 6th Army ultimately had about a 99% fatality rate. Good shout. I’m familiar with that one actually, absolute clusterfuck
Feels like there are some parallels to today’s scenario. Folks who actually know what they’re doing having to kowtow to a chain of command where loyalty is valued more than competence
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On March 31 2026 06:46 Gorsameth wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2026 04:26 Jankisa wrote:On March 31 2026 03:42 KwarK wrote:While skimming Trump's truth for new Iran content I found this. But don't worry, I have it on good authority that he's only joking about not leaving power. Even though last time he was told to leave power he attempted a coup. In other news, Russian oil tankers have breached the fuel "blockade" around Cuba by sailing through it in a move that Trump explained as I told them, if a country wants to send some oil into Cuba right now, I have no problem. The effectiveness of the blockade is now in question. Also the Times of Israel published an article 2 days ago with an explanation of what happened to the Kurdish proxy force plan in Iran. Essentially Israel came up with the plan of fragmenting Iran on ethnic lines as part of their goal of deconstructing it and ideally causing a civil war. The US started meeting with Iranian Kurdish leaders on March 3 but then decided to leak that they were doing it. This caused two immediate responses. The first was the Iranian army launching a preemptive strike against Iranian Kurdish groups. The second was that Turkey, the regional power with the largest and most capable army and a nation that directly borders the Kurdish regions of Iran, calling up Trump and saying that if that plan went ahead they'd be directly entering the war as a third side that was broadly Iran aligned. They would not tolerate the creation of a Kurdistan on their borders. The clown show continues. As always, the political and strategic savvy of the current Trump admin is on full display, what a masterclass of shooting yourself in the dick. There has been increased tension between Israel and Türkiye, ex-PM Naftali Bennet called them "the next Iran" and said "Tehran 2026 is Ankara 2036", he's trying to position himself to the right of Nethyanahu, his party started sliding in polls while Likud got a boost from attacking Iran, so, he decided to take it a step further. Israels belligerence is not going to get better any time soon and they have been dangerously close to open hostilities with Türkiye for a while, bombing their allies in Syria and sharpening the rethoric. Of course, I am no fan of Erdogan, Turkish nationalism or their treatment of Kurds, but Israel has demonstrated its willingness to destabilize the whole world, at some point, Trump is going to leave them out in the cold like he does with everyone eventually (except Putin) and I don't even want to think all the ways this can go wrong, especially with their "secret" Nuclear weapons program. I wasn't aware there was room on the right of Netanyahu... Haven’t run across Itamar Ben Gvir from Otzma Yehudit (Jewish Power) or Smotrich from Religious Zionism Party? I thought they were widely known.
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