|
Now that we have a new thread, in order to ensure that this thread continues to meet TL standards and follows the proper guidelines, we will be enforcing the rules in the OP more strictly. Be sure to give them a complete and thorough read before posting! NOTE: When providing a source, please provide a very brief summary on what it's about and what purpose it adds to the discussion. The supporting statement should clearly explain why the subject is relevant and needs to be discussed. Please follow this rule especially for tweets.
Your supporting statement should always come BEFORE you provide the source.If you have any questions, comments, concern, or feedback regarding the USPMT, then please use this thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/website-feedback/510156-us-politics-thread |
|
|
|
|
You missed the part where 2025 was revised way down. I'll just quote the AI summary:
In 2025, the U.S. labor market added only 181,000 jobs, significantly lower than the previously reported figures, marking it as the worst year for hiring since 2020. Revisions to the data revealed a downward adjustment of over 400,000 jobs from earlier estimates.
Last year was the worst year for jobs since Trump was last in office.
About 70% of the jobs initially believed to have been added last year got revised away. Whoops.
How's that 130k jobs added looking with that context? Do you trust their numbers or are we going to see 70% of those disappear after revisions too?
|
On February 12 2026 11:18 Billyboy wrote:Approximately 9% to 10% of Canadians with a Tax-Free Savings Account (TFSA) fully maximize their contribution room, while roughly 1-2% of Canadians likely max out both their RRSP and TFSA simultaneously. Or so says Google aisle for USA it says 14% as does this. https://finance.yahoo.com/news/only-14-americans-maxed-401-035800493.html
Upper middle class its ~60%. again, i'm talking about upper middle class people. and NONE OF THIS TAKES AWAY from the point I am making. WHich is DO NOT Tax savers. Tax extravagant spenders.
On February 12 2026 15:40 RenSC2 wrote:You missed the part where 2025 was revised way down. I'll just quote the AI summary: Show nested quote +In 2025, the U.S. labor market added only 181,000 jobs, significantly lower than the previously reported figures, marking it as the worst year for hiring since 2020. Revisions to the data revealed a downward adjustment of over 400,000 jobs from earlier estimates. Last year was the worst year for jobs since Trump was last in office. About 70% of the jobs initially believed to have been added last year got revised away. Whoops. How's that 130k jobs added looking with that context? Do you trust their numbers or are we going to see 70% of those disappear after revisions too?
True, so in 2024 during the Biden regime far less jobs were created than were reported. The sleuth investigative journalists in the mainstream media were also were not able to report that Joe Biden was brain dead in 2024.
any how, i think what we're going to see is 2% economic growth in 2025 with median real income up 1.3% and unemployment down slightly. another, ho-hum boring year. a modest improvement. kinda like a said.. a year ago. You can't really fake all that stuff. you can BS 1 or 2 stats. If the sky is falling you can't fake that its not happening.
In other words, all the people claiming the sky is falling since November 4 , 2015, are wrong again. we're going on 10 years now. Of course, back then the stock market was falling, the peso was falling, and Trump could not be trusted with "the nuclear codes".
I guess some people are still waiting and hoping for the sky to fall since Trump won in 2015. Some people have been waiting for the sky to fall since 1950. LOL. It is a fascinating mindset to have.
|
United States44056 Posts
Jimmy: there are two groups of people. There are spenders whose expenses are roughly the same as their income leaving them with nothing left over. Then there are the savers who have money left over from their income after their expenses. My proposal is that instead of taking money from the people who have it we take it from the people who have no money. Somehow. Then the people with money will be able to put their money to work making even more money for them. And then later when they’re reaping the rewards and they have all that extra money the state can swoop in and let them keep it all.
|
Anyone who believes the jobs report after the last person was fired for reporting "bad numbers".....seriously. These are the long term things republicans break intentionally. They dont want government to be trusted so they can raid and privatize everything.
|
On February 12 2026 17:14 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
True, so in 2024 during the Biden regime far less jobs were created than were reported. The sleuth investigative journalists in the mainstream media were also were not able to report that Joe Biden was brain dead in 2024.
I get all my news from the National Enquirer because all those other so-called "journalists" don't have the guts to report the real scoops, like Elvis Presley marrying Bigfoot.
|
Love the push to declare greenhouse gases as fake. It won't take long now and the earth is flat again 
|
On February 12 2026 21:28 Harris1st wrote:Love the push to declare greenhouse gases as fake. It won't take long now and the earth is flat again If flat earthers were a large voting block this administration would be 100% ok with declaring the earth flat.
|
If there was a large contingent of flat earther billionaires, this administration would be defunding NASA into the ground for being unpatriotic
|
Jimmy "the business guy" has such a great understanding of economy that a president being on pace to add $9.5 trillion in debt in his second term is good for economy.
Let's compare the "braindead" Biden and "stable genius" Trump, just the completed terms:
But I'm sure that as long as the job growth mostly coming form elder and social care keeps on trucking while Trump adds half a trillion in interest payments per year of his term everything's going to be just fine, especially with dollar losing 10 % + of it's value in a year and with US bond holders slowly selling them off and seeking other investments.
|
It is kind of funny how they are always fiscally conservative, want to save money, no we cannot afford anything that helps any (possibly poor!) person, we need to tighten the belt...
And then the second it is their guy, it just doesn't matter anymore. Spend like there is no tomorrow. And always on the most pointless, idiotic things imaginable. Why is "more money for rich guys" always acceptable spending, while "having healthcare (which would actually be cheaper then the current US system)" is not?
Once again, literally zero actual convictions. Anything conservatives claim they care about is a lie. States right, "fiscal responsibility", christian morality. Nothing matters. It seems that the sole actual position they have is "be as much of an evil asshole as humanly possible, and then try to raise the bar."
|
The Republican Party exists to siphon wealth from the working class to the "mingles with people like Jeffrey Epstein" class. Everything else they claim to care about like twerrking at the Superbowl halftime show or paper straws is a distraction from that.
|
On February 12 2026 23:34 LightSpectra wrote:
The Republican Party exists to siphon wealth from the working class to the "mingles with people like Jeffrey Epstein" class. Everything else they claim to care about like twerrking at the Superbowl halftime show or paper straws is a distraction from that.
Yes, but why is that so appealing to so many people not in that class? There are maybe a few hundred to a few thousand billionaires. Yet the republican party regularly gets millions of votes, and people on this forum who almost certainly are not billionaires continue to argue for that party.
|
Because misinformation from right-wing news outlets and social media has led them to believe wages are low and rent is high because they're competing with immigrants and lazy minority welfare queens because of DEI.
Edit: there's also Prosperity Gospel movement, which are evangelical Christians preaching that God wants you to be rich, and if you're not rich it's because you don't have enough faith, and you don't have enough faith if you're not voting for anti-abortion, anti-queer politicians hard enough. America would be prosperous if we just had a little more biblical law (just not the ones about loan forgiveness, or loving the foreigner as if they were your own, or "I was hungry and you did not feed me").
|
On February 12 2026 23:44 Simberto wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2026 23:34 LightSpectra wrote:
The Republican Party exists to siphon wealth from the working class to the "mingles with people like Jeffrey Epstein" class. Everything else they claim to care about like twerrking at the Superbowl halftime show or paper straws is a distraction from that. Yes, but why is that so appealing to so many people not in that class? There are maybe a few hundred to a few thousand billionaires. Yet the republican party regularly gets millions of votes, and people on this forum who almost certainly are not billionaires continue to argue for that party.
While some Republicans still probably believe in trickle-down economics or that they'll magically become millionaires, enabling economic inequality is probably less important than their desire to prey on women, minorities, and other marginalized groups that can be blamed for the individual Republican's own personal failures. Lazy unqualified MAGA man surely lost his job / didn't get a job because an illegal immigrant crossed the border ten states over and makes hardly any money picking vegetables or cleaning bathrooms 12 hours a day; misogynistic, homophobic MAGA incel can't have a successful relationship because all women are dumb and because Jim and John stole all the happiness when they got gay-married to each other; Christian nationalist MAGA douche blames Jews, Muslims, and atheists for all of the country's ethical issues; something something trans people; etc.
|
Republicans peddle culture war. It makes sense as they believe, ideologically, in the hierarchy. So the top proclaims and they will obey. You can't have class war if this topples your pyramid.
These motherfuckers are still going to defend everything coming out of this cabinet as everything around them is crumbling.
|
On February 12 2026 23:44 Simberto wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2026 23:34 LightSpectra wrote:
The Republican Party exists to siphon wealth from the working class to the "mingles with people like Jeffrey Epstein" class. Everything else they claim to care about like twerrking at the Superbowl halftime show or paper straws is a distraction from that. Yes, but why is that so appealing to so many people not in that class? There are maybe a few hundred to a few thousand billionaires. Yet the republican party regularly gets millions of votes, and people on this forum who almost certainly are not billionaires continue to argue for that party. A lifetime of indoctrination.
|
I don't think the average Republican is consciously thinking about a hierarchy of human worth that needs to be enforced with a police state. People who unironically talk like that are usually incels that have nothing better to do but watch fascist video essays and they're probably not a large portion of the voting base.
I do think the average Republican is just deeply uninformed about basically everything. The main example that comes to mind is that YouGov study that showed Americans believe 21% of the population is trans (real number: less than 1%), 20% are millionaires (real number: less than 1%), 30% are Jewish (real number: 2%), 27% are Muslim (real number: 1%), 33% are atheist (real number: 3%). It's easy to fall for apocalyptic rhetoric about a nonexistent 'Great Replacement' that used to be a Neonazi conspiracy theory before it became a mainstream Republican conspiracy theory when your perception of minorities is that there are literally over 10x more of them than there actually are.
Apply that to any number of things. Child molester Donald Trump just signed an EO to force the military to subsidize coal power, how many Republican voters know coal is more expensive than wind/solar ("Even without subsidies") and their taxes are being misappropriated to subsidize willful obsolescence? Probably a vanishingly small amount.
How many Republicans didn't know that tariffs are a tax when they voted in 2024?
|
Well, they are here, and they will happilly tell you.
For oBlade, about getting one over Democrats and punishing them and anyone who is not white, applying laws selectively and spitting on the rest of the world who has been "taking advantage" of Americans. Basically, just regurgitated "America first" bullshit marching orders he gets form watching his idol Tucker Carlson.
Whatever lefties propose, he has diatribes he copy pasted from stormfront ready, with links and videos from X, the everything app, the guy never leaves his media bubble and when challenged here he just ignores it and keeps on spamming his bullshit.
The saddest part is that he's just a sad incel who has no personality or interests of his own so he lives vicariously by watching jack booted thugs executing people.
For Introvert, it's grievance, he, unlike oBlade at least has the balls to occasionally spare a critical word for Trump and his cohort, but, he is so blinded by propaganda and hate, he's been so convinced that immigrants are the poison killing his country and that the reason for this are Democrats that he is willing to cheer on downright fascism as long as they punish the people he hates, namely Democrats, liberals and anyone else conservatives blame for the USA being a shitthole it is.
This can range from Europeans and everyone else getting a "free ride" and USA protection, which, along with paying for immigrant healthcare is the reason, in his head, why USA can't afford healthcare.
For Jimmy, he's either a bad troll or very stupid, the guy unironically watches fox news and posts and acts like a boomer.
All of them share the common trait that they are petty people who blame all the issues in the USA on anything other then the country being a deliberate shit show, it's unimaginable to them that normal people from USA can be critical of both Democrats and Republicans and still vote and prefer Democrats every time much in the same way that GH can't imagine that people don't have to love or defend Democrats to want them to get back in to power as a better alternative to an inevitably violent and catastrophic revolution.
|
|
|
|
|
|
EPT![[image loading]](https://www.crfb.org/sites/default/files/styles/media_image_default/public/images/trump-biden%20fig%201.png.webp?itok=5BGrPiS1)
