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ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12889 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-12-08 05:10:03
December 08 2025 04:56 GMT
#107581
On December 08 2025 11:02 Manit0u wrote:
It's like talking to a bot

Still waiting on you to quote me where I praised russians for gameifying the system etcetc.
a bot that fact checked and proved you factually wrong on many points.
Would you like me to reference the list again? As a bot would ask.
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
Jankisa
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Croatia1761 Posts
December 08 2025 14:21 GMT
#107582
Looks like Vulcan Elements, a company created in 2023 got an investment from a venture capital firm 1789 capital which is, among others backed by Don Jr. and Peter Thiel.

In a curious development, this company who opened it's first manufacturing facility this year just secured a $ 630 loan from DoD, largest such loan in history.

I wonder if the folks here who were extremely troubled by Hunter Biden getting a BS job on a board of a Ukrainian company will be upset by this.
So, are you a pessimist? - On my better days. Are you a nihilist? - Not as much as I should be.
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17849 Posts
December 08 2025 15:01 GMT
#107583
On December 08 2025 13:56 ETisME wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2025 11:02 Manit0u wrote:
It's like talking to a bot

Still waiting on you to quote me where I praised russians for gameifying the system etcetc.
a bot that fact checked and proved you factually wrong on many points.
Would you like me to reference the list again? As a bot would ask.


Why are you bringing up stuff from a different topic in here? Also, I've already told you I'm not going to engage in interactions with you because it's absolutely pointless. People keep telling you you're wrong, keep asking you to stop posting AI slop and yet you persist, spewing random garbage and talking points that quite often have nothing to do with the thing being currently discussed.
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
LightSpectra
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3277 Posts
December 08 2025 20:51 GMT
#107584
Remember that time the economy was so bad under Obama or Biden where they just straight up ordered the economic, labor, and inflation data to not be released?
"don't try to pull a LightSpectra-Trumper"
LightSpectra
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3277 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-12-09 18:53:05
December 09 2025 18:52 GMT
#107585
After spending months accusing the Biden administration of pardoning people against the president's knowledge using his auto-pen, and after months committing the literal textbook example of war crimes against boats allegedly trafficking drugs to the United States, here's child molester Donald Trump's justification for pardoning former Honduras president Juan Orlando Hernández, who was found guilty of trafficking 400 tons of cocaine into the United States:

"Well I don’t know him and I know very little about him other than people said it was like an Obama-Biden type set up where he was set up."

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DSDWRrwEdxZ/
"don't try to pull a LightSpectra-Trumper"
Hat Trick of Today
Profile Joined February 2025
202 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-12-10 13:54:53
December 10 2025 13:31 GMT
#107586
Is the US economy actually doing well outside of raw GDP figures?

We’re talking about an economy (and stock market) that is single handedly being propped up by like three companies engaging in an investment circlejerk. One of those companies (OpenAI) is cashing cheques that it will never be able to cash and is on a public tour begging the US government to backstop its commitments because of “national security”.

There is a reason why the Trump administration constantly bitches out of the trade war with regards to essentials like beef. There’s other factors like lower domestic beef production due to weather conditions/herd health/industry cartels but the end result is that US residents can’t afford goddamn beef whether that be ground beef or your top tier US prime grade steak. They’re not begging Argentina and Brazil to send all the ground beef into the US tariff free out of the goodness of their hearts, it’s because people who used to be able to afford ground beef are now forgoing ground beef because they can’t afford it anymore. People are noticing their quality of life is actually getting worse.

Stuff like this, continued inflationary pressures on stuff essential to living in a modern world, increasing amounts of loan delinquencies, consumer spending being moribund amongst the lowest 90% of income earners, and the obvious horrid jobs market don’t suggest a good or even OK economy. Opinion polls confirm this because Trump is well underwater in every economic related polling topic.

And we know the administration knows the economy is dogshit because this is the exact type of administration that would be telling everyone how good the economy is. But instead it’s just culture war garbage like mandating the use of Times New Roman because Calibri is woke or that we need to dress respectfully at airports.
Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8760 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-12-10 14:05:01
December 10 2025 13:55 GMT
#107587
Eileen Higgins elected as first Democratic mayor of Miami in three decades@BBC

Democrat Eileen Higgins has won the Miami mayoral race in Florida, the first time someone from her party has done so in nearly 30 years.

A former county commissioner, Higgins won the runoff election by securing 59% of the votes, defeating her Republican competitor Emilio Gonzalez, who was endorsed by President Donald Trump and got nearly 41%, according to official results.

Speaking to supporters at her election celebration party, Higgins said: "Miami chose a new direction... you chose competence over chaos."

Higgins' victory continues a string of recent Democratic wins.


it's not just opinion polls anymore. the political winds due to Trump's policies (going full Project2025/trade wars... ending imaginary wars while selling out allies in real ones...) are shifting dramatically from not even a year ago.

Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before the fall.
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9067 Posts
December 10 2025 14:31 GMT
#107588
Still need to get the House and Senate back to Democrat control. And then they need to start bringing in every single person in high levels of the administration to testify. The grift alone should be grounds for removal but we know it won't happen.

And to Hat Trick, no the economy isn't doing any better. You answered that question in the rest of your post. Everything is more expensive and wages are nowhere near keeping up with inflation. Shit is diabolical. Day to day necessities are almost out of reach for a lot of people. This is going to be a tight holiday season for a lot of people and some are gonna have to go without due to the fact that they simply can't afford much of anything.

It's a shitshow but this is what the other half of the country voted for/accepted.
Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8760 Posts
December 10 2025 14:49 GMT
#107589
yeah the mid-terms are the real test.

it is remarkable however that Republicans are now shifting towards "saving" Obamacare. is their mandate not big enough, their trust in themselves and their competence so low that major reform is out of the question?

a tragic, diabolical shit show indeed. I mean Democrats already suck/are not great but there is a sliver of hope (as of late) at least.

what about Republicans then...? they haven't even lost the important elections yet, but somehow are losing to themselves harder than to the Democrats part of the resistance.
Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before the fall.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44356 Posts
December 10 2025 15:56 GMT
#107590
On Nov 5 neither the centrist nor the MAGA candidate in my city won 50% of the mayoral race. Yesterday in the runoff the MAGA candidate got 42%. Still too high but quite a swing. Turnout was good too.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20168 Posts
December 10 2025 17:11 GMT
#107591
Long watch, TL:DR - Proves that companies are using AI algorithms to manipulate grocery pricing and charge as much as possible based on who's purchasing it.

how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22646 Posts
December 10 2025 17:29 GMT
#107592
On December 11 2025 02:11 decafchicken wrote:
Long watch, TL:DR - Proves that companies are using AI algorithms to manipulate grocery pricing and charge as much as possible based on who's purchasing it.
Not watched the whole thing so maybe it gets addressed but how even? Don't you have sticker prices? Isn't this just strait up fraud?
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44356 Posts
December 10 2025 17:52 GMT
#107593
On December 11 2025 02:29 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2025 02:11 decafchicken wrote:
Long watch, TL:DR - Proves that companies are using AI algorithms to manipulate grocery pricing and charge as much as possible based on who's purchasing it.
Not watched the whole thing so maybe it gets addressed but how even? Don't you have sticker prices? Isn't this just strait up fraud?

Electronic tags and online shopping.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom10006 Posts
December 10 2025 17:58 GMT
#107594
On December 10 2025 22:31 Hat Trick of Today wrote:
But instead it’s just culture war garbage like mandating the use of Times New Roman because Calibri is woke or that we need to dress respectfully at airports.

I was reading about this earlier.

I have no idea how anyone can possibly support this. Its pointless and vindictive.

Actually trying to convince people that calibri is woke is so fucking insane you'd have to be severely mentally ill to go along with it.
RIP Meatloaf <3
oBlade
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States6540 Posts
December 10 2025 18:20 GMT
#107595
On December 11 2025 02:58 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2025 22:31 Hat Trick of Today wrote:
But instead it’s just culture war garbage like mandating the use of Times New Roman because Calibri is woke or that we need to dress respectfully at airports.

I was reading about this earlier.

I have no idea how anyone can possibly support this. Its pointless and vindictive.

Actually trying to convince people that calibri is woke is so fucking insane you'd have to be severely mentally ill to go along with it.

Interesting reaction. The State Department under Blinken/Biden changed to Calibri with the explicit justification it had some kind of effect on visual accessibility for the impaired. This is not some kind of 250 year old constitutional norm Trump blew up. They used Times New Roman before and they're using it now. It's a font. That's all.
"I read it. You know how to read, you ignorant fuck?" - Andy Dufresne
dyhb
Profile Joined August 2021
United States771 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-12-10 18:55:35
December 10 2025 18:24 GMT
#107596
I was interested as to why this was called woke, and discovered that the State Department's office of diversity and inclusion mandated the change from Times New Roman to Calibri in 2023 (NYT). The first chief diversity officer stated that it was done to make the paperwork inclusive. So after just 2 years of the change, it's back to what it was before. I don't think the full text of the leaked memo has been released to determine how much this was framed as a crusade against woke, versus trading supposed sans-serif readability for formality/clarity/tradition. It "was not among the department’s most illegal, immoral, radical or wasteful instances of D.E.I.A" and "“accessibility-based document remediation cases” at the department had not declined [[when Biden switched it to Calibri]]." Silly to change in the first place, doubly so to change it back.

lol missed previous response while composing
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22646 Posts
December 10 2025 18:25 GMT
#107597
On December 11 2025 02:58 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2025 22:31 Hat Trick of Today wrote:
But instead it’s just culture war garbage like mandating the use of Times New Roman because Calibri is woke or that we need to dress respectfully at airports.

I was reading about this earlier.

I have no idea how anyone can possibly support this. Its pointless and vindictive.

Actually trying to convince people that calibri is woke is so fucking insane you'd have to be severely mentally ill to go along with it.
And here comes Oblade to prove your point, rofl.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom10006 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-12-10 18:44:02
December 10 2025 18:41 GMT
#107598
On December 11 2025 03:20 oBlade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2025 02:58 Jockmcplop wrote:
On December 10 2025 22:31 Hat Trick of Today wrote:
But instead it’s just culture war garbage like mandating the use of Times New Roman because Calibri is woke or that we need to dress respectfully at airports.

I was reading about this earlier.

I have no idea how anyone can possibly support this. Its pointless and vindictive.

Actually trying to convince people that calibri is woke is so fucking insane you'd have to be severely mentally ill to go along with it.

Interesting reaction. The State Department under Blinken/Biden changed to Calibri with the explicit justification it had some kind of effect on visual accessibility for the impaired. This is not some kind of 250 year old constitutional norm Trump blew up. They used Times New Roman before and they're using it now. It's a font. That's all.


Yes, they changed it to a clearer font, in order that people can read it better.

Is that what you would define as woke?

Has anti-wokeness gone so far off the edge of our reality that they will make things less accessible even if there's zero benefit to be had from doing so, just to exclude people?
RIP Meatloaf <3
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44356 Posts
December 10 2025 18:45 GMT
#107599
Oblade likes his fonts like he likes his salutes.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany12020 Posts
December 10 2025 18:48 GMT
#107600
On December 11 2025 03:45 KwarK wrote:
Oblade likes his fonts like he likes his salutes.


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