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Now that we have a new thread, in order to ensure that this thread continues to meet TL standards and follows the proper guidelines, we will be enforcing the rules in the OP more strictly. Be sure to give them a complete and thorough read before posting!

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LightSpectra
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3277 Posts
1 hour ago
#119901
On October 06 2026 00:18 Billyboy wrote:
That’s kind of the crux of conspiracy thinking, take some actual facts and fill in the rest with what someone feels is right. Ideally that are not provable wrong. Though the end part is not a must, see flat earth.


I've found Jimmy comments are a lot better to read if you imagine them as being written on the walls of an asylum using mashed potato.
"don't try to pull a LightSpectra-Trumper"
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany12019 Posts
1 hour ago
#119902
On October 06 2026 21:43 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Carter at #1 eh? Reagan destroyed him in the 1980 election campaign. “There you go again.” won Reagan the election.

We have to stomp out those evil lying Canadians!
https://www.yahoo.com/news/politics/articles/trump-claims-canada-imposing-secret-201116335.html
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After pausing for around five seconds and walking a few steps, Trump decided to follow up, "And all we ask of one thing of Canada — they have to be honest. They are not honest with the United States. They've been ripping us off for years."

Canadian diplomat Ken Taylor committed major citizenship documents fraud in 1979 and 1980... that evil lying scum! ! !

In fairness to Trump, Justin Trudeau prolly bullshitted him quite a bit. Other than that, Canadian politicians are pretty honest with the USA. I think Trump is traumatized by getting played by Junior Trudeau.

BTW, during Carter's Crisis of Confidence Speech he was distraught how Americans believed the next 5 years worse than the previous 5 years. He average American was not far off ... July 1979 to December 1982 was very bad and undoubtedly worse than 1974 to 1978.

is this what 1979 was really like? or was it more like the Brady Bunch?

the 1980 US Presidential Election Campaign is probably my favourite election campaign of all time.


To Trump, "being honest" means "say what i want you to say, bend the knee, and kiss my ass". He wants Canadians to say how much Canada has ripped off the US. They are not saying that, so to Trump, they are "dishonest".

It is important to realize that those people don't use words with the same meanings as normal people.
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States24375 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-10-06 14:21:50
40 minutes ago
#119903
On October 06 2026 06:25 EnDeR_ wrote:
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On October 06 2026 06:02 GreenHorizons wrote:
On October 06 2026 05:32 Liquid`Drone wrote:
On October 06 2026 04:44 GreenHorizons wrote:
On October 06 2026 04:25 Jankisa wrote:
As you know GH, I do agree with you that the fecklessness of mainstream democrats, including governors and their lack of pushback to Trump is a big problem, even tho I do believe that there are pragmatic reasons to not to try to get on his back side, as he has shown that he is more then happy to punish states that disobey him in a few different ways.

Given that these governors are primarily there to serve the people of their state, I can understand why they aren't trying to push back too hard, at least not until the midterms, we'll see if Senate and Congress flip if they'll suddenly grow some spinal tissue.

What I don't understand is how you aren't interested in ranking US presidents, I mean, it's fun, interesting, reveals how people feel / think.
+ Show Spoiler +

So I'll try mine:

(1) Carter 1
(2) Obama 1
(3) Obama 2
(4) Biden 1
(5) Clinton 1
(6) Sr. Bush 1
(7) Clinton 2
(8) W Bush 1
(9) Reagan 2
(10) Reagan 1
(11) W Bush 2
(12) Trump 1

I'm a little wobbly on having SR Bush in front of Clinton 2, but Clinton 2 did a lot of damage to progressive politics and at least Bush SR stopped the Gulf War in time when he didn't have to and actually sought international approval for it
.




Spoiler, they aren't going to grow spines because their supporters literally don't even know how to apply even a modicum of pressure on them to do so. It would therefore be irrational for them to grow a spine and act in their constituents best interests.

As for ranking presidents, I believe they all belong/ed in the Hague, so it doesn't really interest/amuse me.


Why does Carter belong in the Hague?

The most straightforward reason would probably be knowingly supplying weapons/diplomatic backing to Indonesia to slaughter civilians in East Timor.


Knowingly supplying weapons to X for Y atrocity covers pretty much all of them. I take it that was your point, but that's a fairly narrow view.

Meaning what?

Aiding and abetting the mass slaughter of civilians shouldn't be a crime against humanity that the ostensible "leader of the free world" should be held accountable for?
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Billyboy
Profile Joined September 2024
2471 Posts
28 minutes ago
#119904
Should all the people who supply weapons to people who kill be held accountable or just Americans?
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany12019 Posts
26 minutes ago
#119905
On October 06 2026 23:06 Billyboy wrote:
Should all the people who supply weapons to people who kill be held accountable or just Americans?


I know that GH can be exhausting, but generally speaking i don't think it would be such a bad idea to hold manufacturers and sellers somewhat responsible for what people do with the weapons they sell to them.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27461 Posts
23 minutes ago
#119906
On October 06 2026 23:09 Simberto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2026 23:06 Billyboy wrote:
Should all the people who supply weapons to people who kill be held accountable or just Americans?


I know that GH can be exhausting, but generally speaking i don't think it would be such a bad idea to hold manufacturers and sellers somewhat responsible for what people do with the weapons they sell to them.

Agreed
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
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Jankisa
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Croatia1761 Posts
17 minutes ago
#119907
I guess another way to not go insane reading Jimmy's posts is when you understand that to him politics is just WWE, so because Regan "destroyed" Carter he's obviously a better president.

That very neatly explains the last post, basically Carter was elected into a horrible economy that he didn't manage to magically fix during one term, then a sleek actor with a lot of charisma came in and promised all kinds of bullshit that he also failed to deliver later, but he said it confidently and he had the big advantage of going against someone an order of magnitude more honest then him, of course Americans ate it up.
So, are you a pessimist? - On my better days. Are you a nihilist? - Not as much as I should be.
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10961 Posts
4 minutes ago
#119908
On October 06 2026 21:55 LightSpectra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2026 00:18 Billyboy wrote:
That’s kind of the crux of conspiracy thinking, take some actual facts and fill in the rest with what someone feels is right. Ideally that are not provable wrong. Though the end part is not a must, see flat earth.


I've found Jimmy comments are a lot better to read if you imagine them as being written on the walls of an asylum using mashed potato.


I too derive some strange entertainment from them.

The oBlade filter was in fact a godsent and is still active but JJR's stuff is honestly just gold.
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