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Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8231 Posts
October 30 2025 08:26 GMT
#106681
https://www.reuters.com/world/china/trump-asks-pentagon-immediately-start-testing-us-nuclear-weapons-2025-10-30/

Woke up to this bit of lovely news today.. I didn't have this on my bingo card, but let's be honest, in hindsight we should have seen this coming
KT_Elwood
Profile Joined July 2015
Germany1108 Posts
October 30 2025 09:09 GMT
#106682
Trump's words mean nothing.

But they fill headlines and make "journalists" happy. So they suck his stubby mushroom dick and fondle shrinkly orange balls.. just to print everything he says verbatim and not even question it the 1,000,000,000,000 th time he just lied, made something up, didn't mean it, told a joke or had a stroke.... or whatever his lame excuse is.

Trump is an engagement bait generator for "news".

The nuclear stockpile is even in reduced maintainance because of the shutdown.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/czr1lk4k1ejo

When trump says "nuclear tests" - he doesn't mean to blow up bikini atoll again... he will have Pete "Major" Kegstand lick some 9V Batteries in a DoE/NNSA office and declare the stockpile to be the bigliest and bestliest and deadliest again- thanks to Donald Jeffrey Trump.

Trump just "Fixed China Situation" by undoing all that he has done since january and goes back to Bidennomics.

That's so frustrating. Since Trump is EOL anyway, he doesn't care that he wastes everybody's time.

He finds somthing to be working well (US-China trade), so he breaks it.. only to walk back on breaking it and declare victory by just caving to the old status quo.

"First he eats our dogs, and then he taxes the penguins... Donald Trump truly is the Donald Trump of our generation. " -DPB
oBlade
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States5850 Posts
October 30 2025 10:54 GMT
#106683
On October 30 2025 17:26 Excludos wrote:
https://www.reuters.com/world/china/trump-asks-pentagon-immediately-start-testing-us-nuclear-weapons-2025-10-30/

Woke up to this bit of lovely news today.. I didn't have this on my bingo card, but let's be honest, in hindsight we should have seen this coming

The issue is Russia did a test of a capability the US doesn't have. Which the US strategic minds thought is superfluous, and didn't pursue, and in the interest of denuclearization also eschewed. The same reason the US doesn't use nuclear bazookas anymore, despite that the army would really like to have nukes. If you use a small nuke, you immediately escalate constantly to bigger nukes and get global nuclear war.

The same idea with the torpedo.

Poseidon is both nuclear powered (so like a drone submarine) and a nuclear delivery system. Like a ICT instead of an ICBM. Or a cruise torpedo since it needs constant propulsion. The US doesn't have nuclear tipped torpedoes. Because the US basically doesn't need an AOE torpedo that can blow up an entire fleet, or harbor, in one shot, because anyway nobody else has entire fleets that couldn't just be blown up in another way, and the same with harbors/ports which you can target with the rest of the nuclear triad. US submarines are capable of blowing up Russian submarines, and of nuking entire countries, but the niche of actually nuking an enemy submarine was not worth what it takes to build submarines that can launch nuclear torpedoes which then potentially puts nuclear escalation in the hands of sub captains.

Despite that the "test" of the nuclear torpedo didn't involve an underwater nuclear detonation, which it might sound like at first, you still may have to test something in response. Whether that's shooting some ballistic missiles with dummy payloads, or an underground nuclear test which is the only way that doesn't violate treaty still.
"I read it. You know how to read, you ignorant fuck?" - Andy Dufresne
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24753 Posts
October 30 2025 11:43 GMT
#106684
Trump could have killed two birds with one stone if he tested a nuclear warhead in the East Wing.
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8703 Posts
October 30 2025 12:04 GMT
#106685
a grand ballroom glowing so "aggressively" it rivals the White House...very much on brand.

Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before the fall.
KT_Elwood
Profile Joined July 2015
Germany1108 Posts
October 30 2025 13:35 GMT
#106686
Trump trying to remember what Nazi Nosferathu explained to him about "the congress".

The result is the suggestion to do away with the legislative alltogether.

https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/-dont-need-anything-congress-trump-no-legislative-agenda-rcna240533
"First he eats our dogs, and then he taxes the penguins... Donald Trump truly is the Donald Trump of our generation. " -DPB
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22158 Posts
October 30 2025 17:21 GMT
#106687
What‘s the best fridge brand for hiding in during a nuclear holocaust ?
Jankisa
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Croatia1105 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-10-30 17:24:51
October 30 2025 17:22 GMT
#106688
On October 30 2025 10:21 Hat Trick of Today wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2025 07:00 ChristianS wrote:To Jankisa and Gorsameth’s points, it’s certainly a mistake to look at the behavior of day traders as an indication of economic health. No argument from me there. It is interesting to me, though, that corporations with nominal expertise in a certain field don’t act more rationally. They’re the ones that make or lose money depending on how things go, right? If you’re importing raw materials from China or something, and you have no way of knowing whether there will be a 200% tariff by the time they arrive, it seems like you’d have no choice but to scale back your business and/or raise prices – not just to account for tariffs already in place, but to mitigate the risk of future vacillations to your business.


But the thing is that businesses are largely behaving rationally. And the economic policy of the Trump administration as of right now is actually very predictable.

For the most part, most businesses have responded to the economic climate and uncertainty by stockpiling stock and basically doing nothing else. No major investments, no additional hires. That’s seen in the absolutely cooked jobs market.

For businesses like Apple who have large enough weight to influence government, you can buy a dinner with Trump to get the government to carve out exemptions on stuff like finished assembled goods from China. In such a situation, you’re actually ahead of the competition. You get stock in before tariffs hit, your opposition don’t have the same crystal ball.

The Trump Administration being big into quid pro quo arrangements and the legal apparatus basically ruling that this is very fine and very OK is an absolute dream for high value individuals who are doing everything in their power to consolidate industries. Businesses that can abuse the current situation are behaving extremely rationally by ramming through everything they can get away with.

This is the whole K shaped economy people are talking about. Between inflation and the trade situation, it’s functionally a recession for 90% of people in America and, like I said, we’re seeing this in the job numbers and consumer spending. The 10% of the wealthiest individuals are the sole peoples carrying things like consumer spending and that is largely fuelled by tech multinationals using an infinite money glitch in the system. The minute OpenAI, which is the 1/3rd of the infinite money glitch that is most likely to face financial hardship, can’t deliver the promised investments is when everything collapses because that’s when the top 10% start keeping their pocketbooks closed.


The big problem that keeps me up at night is that the economy in general is not that disconnected from the Wall street / Stock market.

A lot of pension and other funds are deeply invested in the American stock market and thanks to Crypto deregulation also in to that via ETFs, if everything starts crashing a lot of people will get burnt, badly.

OpenAI seems to have burnt through $11 billion in the last quarter, how long can they sustain this? I have a feeling that their re-structuring and dropping the silly "not for profit" company story is a prelude into an IPO, by the time they are ready for it, the Hype train might be derailed enough for it to be one of the biggest flops in history, maybe that's whats gonna trigger the bubble bursting? Who knows.

In other news, it seems like in the land of the free the 1st amendment protects you but not against criticizing the Orange god king:



I encourage everyone to give this 6 minutes clip a watch. I expected that it's going to be some crazy shit this guy posted, I expected maybe he was resisting arrest so that's why they can hold him, but nope, it' just a quote from Trump and the guy's been in jail for 2 months now with a 2 million bail because he doesn't like the president and thinks he's a hypocrite.

So, are you a pessimist? - On my better days. Are you a nihilist? - Not as much as I should be.
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11731 Posts
October 30 2025 17:47 GMT
#106689
On October 31 2025 02:21 Vivax wrote:
What‘s the best fridge brand for hiding in during a nuclear holocaust ?


Probably the heaviest. Protection from radiation scales pretty well with the mass of material between you and the source. More mass also means that it reacts less strongly to blast waves, and it also gives you more resistance to heat.

However, you probably also want to think about how you will breathe in there.
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8231 Posts
October 30 2025 17:56 GMT
#106690
On October 31 2025 02:21 Vivax wrote:
What‘s the best fridge brand for hiding in during a nuclear holocaust ?


I've heard good things about King Cool. But you need to get the older ones, the ones lined with lead
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45244 Posts
October 30 2025 18:06 GMT
#106691
On October 31 2025 02:21 Vivax wrote:
What‘s the best fridge brand for hiding in during a nuclear holocaust ?


I think you found Donald Trump's next grift.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23607 Posts
October 30 2025 19:02 GMT
#106692
On October 31 2025 02:56 Excludos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2025 02:21 Vivax wrote:
What‘s the best fridge brand for hiding in during a nuclear holocaust ?


I've heard good things about King Cool. But you need to get the older ones, the ones lined with lead

Luckily our government and businesses were forward thinking enough to ensure many of us have a lead lining in our bloodstream.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18204 Posts
October 30 2025 20:21 GMT
#106693
On October 31 2025 02:47 Simberto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2025 02:21 Vivax wrote:
What‘s the best fridge brand for hiding in during a nuclear holocaust ?


Probably the heaviest. Protection from radiation scales pretty well with the mass of material between you and the source. More mass also means that it reacts less strongly to blast waves, and it also gives you more resistance to heat.

However, you probably also want to think about how you will breathe in there.

And whether living inside a fridge for the next 300ish years is really a viable plan.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45244 Posts
October 30 2025 21:10 GMT
#106694
On October 31 2025 05:21 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2025 02:47 Simberto wrote:
On October 31 2025 02:21 Vivax wrote:
What‘s the best fridge brand for hiding in during a nuclear holocaust ?


Probably the heaviest. Protection from radiation scales pretty well with the mass of material between you and the source. More mass also means that it reacts less strongly to blast waves, and it also gives you more resistance to heat.

However, you probably also want to think about how you will breathe in there.

And whether living inside a fridge for the next 300ish years is really a viable plan.


I swear, if Trump is still president when he's 379 years old...
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22158 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-10-30 21:44:09
October 30 2025 21:24 GMT
#106695
Maybe with another pandemic and lockdowns we could stop sucking for another 3 years.

Just put me into a vat and let me hallucinate until I turn into nutrient paste please tbh.

None of those are serious.
I wonder why the shutdown was for rather long.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45244 Posts
October 31 2025 15:08 GMT
#106696
Donald Trump is actively hurting the video game industry while pretending that he's an ally.

The delusion:
"Yesterday, the Trump Administration, in all its brain-rotting glory, posted an AI mockup of the president in Master Chief armor as it declared that the man, who has likely never played a moment of Halo in his life, had ended the console war ... the White House has put out a statement declaring not only that Trump has ended a war, but that he is “hugely popular” with gamers. ... the Trump administration is claiming credit for Microsoft bringing its longest-running series to PlayStation, and saying that under his presidency, gamers are thriving."

The reality:
"the video game industry has been thrown into a tailspin by the Trump administration. The president’s tariffs have increased console prices across the board ... Trump has done tangible damage to the video game industry in the past 10 months, and yet, there’s an odd, concerted effort within his administration to brand him as some kind of gamer-friendly leader. This includes dumb shit like these memes, but also the Department of Homeland Security’s use of imagery from video games and anime, such as Halo and Pokémon, to try and recruit people to ICE."

( https://kotaku.com/donald-trump-administration-white-house-halo-gamestop-2000639566 )
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23607 Posts
October 31 2025 15:14 GMT
#106697
I was wondering why Republicans hadn't just bribed a few Democrats yet, but I guess Trump is forcing them to play hardball, calling for an end of the filibuster.

President Donald Trump has called on Republicans in the US Senate to scrap the filibuster rule in a bid to end the ongoing government shutdown, now entering its 30th day.

“It is now time for the Republicans to play their ‘TRUMP CARD,’ and go for what is called the Nuclear Option - Get rid of the Filibuster, and get rid of it, NOW,” Trump wrote on social media.

“Well, now WE are in power, and if we did what we should be doing, it would IMMEDIATELY end this ridiculous, Country destroying ‘SHUT DOWN,’” Trump wrote


www.bbc.com

Shutdown will probably end in a week or so, but it'll probably be affluent people having their flight plans interrupted (plus Dem's getting their "fightcred" for "the longest shutdown") that will be the last straw (again).
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11731 Posts
October 31 2025 15:15 GMT
#106698
The right loves angry gamer boys. They are one of their core demographics, so obviously they have to appeal to them. Luckily for them, that seems to be pretty easy.

What they don't love is not destroying any industry.
Jankisa
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Croatia1105 Posts
October 31 2025 17:29 GMT
#106699
I am still absolutely certain that this meme is 100 % accurate:

[image loading]


I was there when the shitty magic was written and almost got sucked down the alt-right pipeline. I was watching, live, the_Donald subreddit going from ironic to actual brainwashed cult, and the overlap between them and GamerGate subreddits was palpable.

That shit spawned so much of the current culture war shit, the rise of Jordan Peterson, Milo Yannopoulus and so many others who then bubbled up and got super famous on Rogan's podcast is something that I was watching with dread as I realized it's just repackaged conservatism.

And the 2016 election was tight enough (what was it, 120 k votes across 4 states) that I firmly believe that this movement and pipeline was the tipping point for this whole timeline.

So, are you a pessimist? - On my better days. Are you a nihilist? - Not as much as I should be.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22158 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-10-31 18:05:57
October 31 2025 18:04 GMT
#106700
I got sucked into the alt-right mostly during pandemic times. Wasn't a fan of the measures.
Lots of time on stupid mediums. And it's not like they aren't entertaining at times...
I think a lot of the country was.

If this is supposed to be the golden age of the right wing, I don't see it. It's just the inhuman shit happening that you would expect and a bunch of billionaires trying to influence Europe more aggressively.

And social media gives you the creeps nowadays.
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