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On September 11 2025 04:36 BlackJack wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2025 04:32 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On September 11 2025 04:31 BlackJack wrote:On September 11 2025 04:29 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On September 11 2025 04:23 oBlade wrote:On September 11 2025 04:07 Doublemint wrote:Charlie Kirk has been shot in Utah at an event.@dailymail onservative influencer and Turning Point CEO Charlie Kirk has reportedly been shot after gunfire rang out at an event at Utah Valley University on Wednesday.
Chaos erupted at Kirk's Q & A session and students ran for safety.
The right-wing firebrand, 31, was reportedly shot in the neck area and a suspect is in custody following the shooting. Jesus... The spoiled derangement of leftism when it doesn't get its way continues to result in lashing out and murdering anyone who they can't defeat with ideas. I don't think he's been declared dead yet. https://x.com/Uncensorednewsw/status/1965851443732287803?s=19Doubt he is surviving that Definitely need some sort of heads-up for that video imo; it's quite graphic. Just a trigger warning (pun not intended). Trigger warnings don't help but I've added a nsfw tag
Thanks! (Video was just taken down from that site/link btw, but I'm sure it'll pop-up again somewhere else, if people really want to find it.)
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On September 11 2025 04:55 Doublemint wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2025 04:39 LightSpectra wrote:On September 11 2025 04:31 Doublemint wrote:
we know absolutely nothing thus far, but people very quickly lose their mind and manners.
When Nancy Pelosi's husband was attacked, Trump joked about it and speculated it was a scorned lover. When two Minnesota state congressmen were assassinated, Republican Senator Mike Lee made a joke about it on Twitter. There's countless other examples of the far-right normalizing violence, surely they wouldn't hypocritically decide it's a big deal now that the leopards are eating their own faces? Trump is Trump and a piece of shit, absolutely no one expects better. there is a clear line to him entering the political stage and already terrible standards getting worse. but I thought people wanted things to get better. a certain decorum, sincere or not, should be expected. There was a big 'they go low, we go high' energy with Trump 1.
Then the Democrats taking the high road let to Trump getting re-elected.
Now people no longer give a shit.
There is no reason to take the high road when the low road gets rewarded and the high road doesn't.
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Northern Ireland27190 Posts
How do you hit the guy with the biggest head in the world in the neck?
Not something I condone, but equally what do people expect? Political ‘discourse’ right now, never mind actual action is absolute poison. And you’ve got a fuckload of guns floating around
An incredibly poisonous political culture, of which I might add Kirk absolutely contributed to, plus guns, it’s a terrible combination.
Surprised it doesn’t happen more often tbh. You can have a fractious society without guns, or something more harmonious without them. Fractious and guns, good luck with that.
Could just as well be an AOC or Bernie in the firing line, folks I actually like and generally admire.
Charlie Kirk’s a prick, but I don’t think he’s a big enough prick to merit being assassinated, it’s not something I’m gonna clap
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On September 11 2025 04:23 oBlade wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2025 04:07 Doublemint wrote:Charlie Kirk has been shot in Utah at an event.@dailymail onservative influencer and Turning Point CEO Charlie Kirk has reportedly been shot after gunfire rang out at an event at Utah Valley University on Wednesday.
Chaos erupted at Kirk's Q & A session and students ran for safety.
The right-wing firebrand, 31, was reportedly shot in the neck area and a suspect is in custody following the shooting. Jesus... The spoiled derangement of leftism when it doesn't get its way continues to result in lashing out and murdering anyone who they can't defeat with ideas.
The spoiled derangement of rightism when it doesn't get its way continues to result in lashing out and murdering anyone who they can't defeat with ideas: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_shootings_of_Minnesota_legislators
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United States44181 Posts
On September 11 2025 04:07 Doublemint wrote:Charlie Kirk has been shot in Utah at an event.@dailymail Show nested quote +onservative influencer and Turning Point CEO Charlie Kirk has reportedly been shot after gunfire rang out at an event at Utah Valley University on Wednesday.
Chaos erupted at Kirk's Q & A session and students ran for safety.
The right-wing firebrand, 31, was reportedly shot in the neck area and a suspect is in custody following the shooting. Jesus...
It’s a start.
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On September 11 2025 05:06 Gorsameth wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2025 04:55 Doublemint wrote:On September 11 2025 04:39 LightSpectra wrote:On September 11 2025 04:31 Doublemint wrote:
we know absolutely nothing thus far, but people very quickly lose their mind and manners.
When Nancy Pelosi's husband was attacked, Trump joked about it and speculated it was a scorned lover. When two Minnesota state congressmen were assassinated, Republican Senator Mike Lee made a joke about it on Twitter. There's countless other examples of the far-right normalizing violence, surely they wouldn't hypocritically decide it's a big deal now that the leopards are eating their own faces? Trump is Trump and a piece of shit, absolutely no one expects better. there is a clear line to him entering the political stage and already terrible standards getting worse. but I thought people wanted things to get better. a certain decorum, sincere or not, should be expected. There was a big 'they go low, we go high' energy with Trump 1. Then the Democrats taking the high road let to Trump getting re-elected. Now people no longer give a shit. There is no reason to take the high road when the low road gets rewarded and the high road doesn't.
What right-wing violence has been rewarded? Was anyone like, say, Charlie Kirk, cheering the shooting of the MN legislators? I think recent events show that left-wing violence arguable gets more excuses in our culture.
I'm not surprised by what I'm reading because we already saw this with Luigi, or the "in a video game" rhetoric, and to a lesser a extent "punch a Nazi" from a few years ago. There's a lot of fast and loose logic being done here already. It's really not that hard to condemn all violence like this.
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United States44181 Posts
On September 11 2025 04:23 oBlade wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2025 04:07 Doublemint wrote:Charlie Kirk has been shot in Utah at an event.@dailymail onservative influencer and Turning Point CEO Charlie Kirk has reportedly been shot after gunfire rang out at an event at Utah Valley University on Wednesday.
Chaos erupted at Kirk's Q & A session and students ran for safety.
The right-wing firebrand, 31, was reportedly shot in the neck area and a suspect is in custody following the shooting. Jesus... The spoiled derangement of leftism when it doesn't get its way continues to result in lashing out and murdering anyone who they can't defeat with ideas.
Conservatives crying when they get exactly what they wanted will never not be funny to me.
This is what a world with no rule of law, no decorum, no common set of principles, looks like. This is the world you forced upon all of us but suddenly you’re tired of winning?
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On September 11 2025 05:39 KwarK wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2025 04:07 Doublemint wrote:Charlie Kirk has been shot in Utah at an event.@dailymail onservative influencer and Turning Point CEO Charlie Kirk has reportedly been shot after gunfire rang out at an event at Utah Valley University on Wednesday.
Chaos erupted at Kirk's Q & A session and students ran for safety.
The right-wing firebrand, 31, was reportedly shot in the neck area and a suspect is in custody following the shooting. Jesus... It’s a start.
He appears more finished now, actually.
https://nypost.com/2025/09/10/us-news/charlie-kirk-possibly-targeted-in-shooting-at-utah-valley-university-event-during-his-american-comeback-tour/
Charlie Kirk was shot and killed by an assassin while on stage during a stop at Utah Valley University kicking off his American Comeback Tour Wednesday, just as he answered a question from an audience member about mass shootings committed by transgender people.
The shooter remains on the loose, sources told The Post, despite conflicting reports that an arrest was made. Video was circulating on social media showing an older man being hauled away by police.
Asked if Kirk was in the hospital, President Trump told The Post somberly, “He’s not doing well…yes, it looks very bad,” adding that he was feeling “not good” about the shooting.
“He was a very, very good friend of mine and he was a tremendous person,” the president said.
Kirk was rushed to a nearby hospital for emergency surgery, his condition touch-and-go, a nurse told a longtime friend and former Turning Point USA employee Laci Williams who relayed that information to The Post, later confirming reports he had passed away.
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On September 11 2025 04:23 oBlade wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2025 04:07 Doublemint wrote:Charlie Kirk has been shot in Utah at an event.@dailymail onservative influencer and Turning Point CEO Charlie Kirk has reportedly been shot after gunfire rang out at an event at Utah Valley University on Wednesday.
Chaos erupted at Kirk's Q & A session and students ran for safety.
The right-wing firebrand, 31, was reportedly shot in the neck area and a suspect is in custody following the shooting. Jesus... The spoiled derangement of leftism when it doesn't get its way continues to result in lashing out and murdering anyone who they can't defeat with ideas.
You're completely right. All it takes to stop a bad guy is a good guy with a gun. Case in point.
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On September 11 2025 05:41 Introvert wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2025 05:06 Gorsameth wrote:On September 11 2025 04:55 Doublemint wrote:On September 11 2025 04:39 LightSpectra wrote:On September 11 2025 04:31 Doublemint wrote:
we know absolutely nothing thus far, but people very quickly lose their mind and manners.
When Nancy Pelosi's husband was attacked, Trump joked about it and speculated it was a scorned lover. When two Minnesota state congressmen were assassinated, Republican Senator Mike Lee made a joke about it on Twitter. There's countless other examples of the far-right normalizing violence, surely they wouldn't hypocritically decide it's a big deal now that the leopards are eating their own faces? Trump is Trump and a piece of shit, absolutely no one expects better. there is a clear line to him entering the political stage and already terrible standards getting worse. but I thought people wanted things to get better. a certain decorum, sincere or not, should be expected. There was a big 'they go low, we go high' energy with Trump 1. Then the Democrats taking the high road let to Trump getting re-elected. Now people no longer give a shit. There is no reason to take the high road when the low road gets rewarded and the high road doesn't. What right-wing violence has been rewarded? Was anyone like, say, Charlie Kirk, cheering the shooting of the MN legislators?
Here's Charlie Kirk praising Derek Chauvin, who murdered George Floyd: https://thecharliekirkshow.com/podcasts/the-charlie-kirk-show/the-case-to-pardon-derek-chauvin-ft-ben-shapiro
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On September 11 2025 05:39 KwarK wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2025 04:07 Doublemint wrote:Charlie Kirk has been shot in Utah at an event.@dailymail onservative influencer and Turning Point CEO Charlie Kirk has reportedly been shot after gunfire rang out at an event at Utah Valley University on Wednesday.
Chaos erupted at Kirk's Q & A session and students ran for safety.
The right-wing firebrand, 31, was reportedly shot in the neck area and a suspect is in custody following the shooting. Jesus... It’s a start.
I think so too.
Edit: Also "tolerant" left always meet expectations.
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murdered mid sentence under banners that say Prove Me Wrong while trying to deflect from a question about mass murder by calling out gang violence is a very grim irony.
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Northern Ireland27190 Posts
In one video, an audience member can be heard asking Kirk about mass shootings in America: “Do you know how many mass shooters there have been in America over the last 10 years?"
Holding a microphone, Kirk responds: "Counting or not counting gang violence?"
A loud gunshot is heard and Kirk appears to jolt backwards in his seat. Blood can be seen on his neck.
People in the crowd scream and start running from the area.
Almost couldn’t make it up
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On September 11 2025 05:41 KwarK wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2025 04:23 oBlade wrote:On September 11 2025 04:07 Doublemint wrote:Charlie Kirk has been shot in Utah at an event.@dailymail onservative influencer and Turning Point CEO Charlie Kirk has reportedly been shot after gunfire rang out at an event at Utah Valley University on Wednesday.
Chaos erupted at Kirk's Q & A session and students ran for safety.
The right-wing firebrand, 31, was reportedly shot in the neck area and a suspect is in custody following the shooting. Jesus... The spoiled derangement of leftism when it doesn't get its way continues to result in lashing out and murdering anyone who they can't defeat with ideas. Conservatives crying when they get exactly what they wanted will never not be funny to me. This is what a world with no rule of law, no decorum, no common set of principles, looks like. This is the world you forced upon all of us but suddenly you’re tired of winning?
1) I am not a conservative.
2) What the fuck are you talking about?
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On September 11 2025 05:39 KwarK wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2025 04:07 Doublemint wrote:Charlie Kirk has been shot in Utah at an event.@dailymail onservative influencer and Turning Point CEO Charlie Kirk has reportedly been shot after gunfire rang out at an event at Utah Valley University on Wednesday.
Chaos erupted at Kirk's Q & A session and students ran for safety.
The right-wing firebrand, 31, was reportedly shot in the neck area and a suspect is in custody following the shooting. Jesus... It’s a start.
to nothing good.
if we remember, Trump used "Big Balls" getting beat up as a pretense to send the national guard into D.C.
only god knows what nightmarish response they come up with after Kirk's death.
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United States44181 Posts
What is being done to immigrants every day by Trump's brownshirts is political violence. What is being done by police officers embolded by Trump's "don't be too gentle with suspects" rhetoric is political violence. When Trump's opponents are investigated by the FBI on trumped up charges that's political violence. What is being done by shooters every day in schools is political violence. When a woman can't access a medically necessary abortion that's political violence. Every thing done to Kilmar Abrego Garcia was political violence. Conservatives have successfully normalized hurting what they view as the wrong people. That's where we're at now.
And as for rule of law, it's dead. There's a convicted felon who has also been found guilty of raping a woman in the White House. He's on tape confessing to leaking classified documents. He openly takes and solicits bribes. He accepts hundreds of millions of dollars in gifts from foreign states.
So why not shoot Charlie Kirk? "It's against the rules?" What fucking rules. We used to have a set of rules we all agreed to but that was thrown out. Now we have this. "You're not meant to hurt your political enemies". Nah, I'm pretty sure you are. We had a big vote on it last year and the majority agreed that actually it's fine. Personally I voted the other way but elections have consequences.
I'll grieve for the innocent victims of Trump's brownshirts. I'll grieve for the people who die from denial of medical care in facilities where they're held without trial. I'll grieve for the society we lost in the last few years. But Charlie Kirk? Man, that's just funny.
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On September 11 2025 05:15 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2025 04:23 oBlade wrote:On September 11 2025 04:07 Doublemint wrote:Charlie Kirk has been shot in Utah at an event.@dailymail onservative influencer and Turning Point CEO Charlie Kirk has reportedly been shot after gunfire rang out at an event at Utah Valley University on Wednesday.
Chaos erupted at Kirk's Q & A session and students ran for safety.
The right-wing firebrand, 31, was reportedly shot in the neck area and a suspect is in custody following the shooting. Jesus... The spoiled derangement of leftism when it doesn't get its way continues to result in lashing out and murdering anyone who they can't defeat with ideas. The spoiled derangement of rightism when it doesn't get its way continues to result in lashing out and murdering anyone who they can't defeat with ideas: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_shootings_of_Minnesota_legislators
Nobody supports this.
On the other hand,
On September 11 2025 05:39 KwarK wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2025 04:07 Doublemint wrote:Charlie Kirk has been shot in Utah at an event.@dailymail onservative influencer and Turning Point CEO Charlie Kirk has reportedly been shot after gunfire rang out at an event at Utah Valley University on Wednesday.
Chaos erupted at Kirk's Q & A session and students ran for safety.
The right-wing firebrand, 31, was reportedly shot in the neck area and a suspect is in custody following the shooting. Jesus... It’s a start.
Shooting random moderate media figures is a "start."
On September 11 2025 05:55 Doublemint wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2025 05:39 KwarK wrote:On September 11 2025 04:07 Doublemint wrote:Charlie Kirk has been shot in Utah at an event.@dailymail onservative influencer and Turning Point CEO Charlie Kirk has reportedly been shot after gunfire rang out at an event at Utah Valley University on Wednesday.
Chaos erupted at Kirk's Q & A session and students ran for safety.
The right-wing firebrand, 31, was reportedly shot in the neck area and a suspect is in custody following the shooting. Jesus... It’s a start. to nothing good. if we remember, Trump used "Big Balls" getting beat up as a pretense to send the national guard into D.C. only god knows what nightmarish response they come up with after Kirk's death.
It's entirely possible people might use these waves of violence as some kind of political tool to justify policies that stop waves of violence.
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Northern Ireland27190 Posts
On September 11 2025 05:48 Razyda wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2025 05:39 KwarK wrote:On September 11 2025 04:07 Doublemint wrote:Charlie Kirk has been shot in Utah at an event.@dailymail onservative influencer and Turning Point CEO Charlie Kirk has reportedly been shot after gunfire rang out at an event at Utah Valley University on Wednesday.
Chaos erupted at Kirk's Q & A session and students ran for safety.
The right-wing firebrand, 31, was reportedly shot in the neck area and a suspect is in custody following the shooting. Jesus... It’s a start. I think so too. Edit: Also "tolerant" left always meet expectations.
I mean if you zero in on that and completely ignore all the other stuff, then sure
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On September 11 2025 05:54 oBlade wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2025 05:41 KwarK wrote:On September 11 2025 04:23 oBlade wrote:On September 11 2025 04:07 Doublemint wrote:Charlie Kirk has been shot in Utah at an event.@dailymail onservative influencer and Turning Point CEO Charlie Kirk has reportedly been shot after gunfire rang out at an event at Utah Valley University on Wednesday.
Chaos erupted at Kirk's Q & A session and students ran for safety.
The right-wing firebrand, 31, was reportedly shot in the neck area and a suspect is in custody following the shooting. Jesus... The spoiled derangement of leftism when it doesn't get its way continues to result in lashing out and murdering anyone who they can't defeat with ideas. Conservatives crying when they get exactly what they wanted will never not be funny to me. This is what a world with no rule of law, no decorum, no common set of principles, looks like. This is the world you forced upon all of us but suddenly you’re tired of winning? 1) I am not a conservative. 2) What the fuck are you talking about?
1) lol okay.
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Northern Ireland27190 Posts
On September 11 2025 05:58 oBlade wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2025 05:15 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On September 11 2025 04:23 oBlade wrote:On September 11 2025 04:07 Doublemint wrote:Charlie Kirk has been shot in Utah at an event.@dailymail onservative influencer and Turning Point CEO Charlie Kirk has reportedly been shot after gunfire rang out at an event at Utah Valley University on Wednesday.
Chaos erupted at Kirk's Q & A session and students ran for safety.
The right-wing firebrand, 31, was reportedly shot in the neck area and a suspect is in custody following the shooting. Jesus... The spoiled derangement of leftism when it doesn't get its way continues to result in lashing out and murdering anyone who they can't defeat with ideas. The spoiled derangement of rightism when it doesn't get its way continues to result in lashing out and murdering anyone who they can't defeat with ideas: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_shootings_of_Minnesota_legislators Nobody supports this. On the other hand, Show nested quote +On September 11 2025 05:39 KwarK wrote:On September 11 2025 04:07 Doublemint wrote:Charlie Kirk has been shot in Utah at an event.@dailymail onservative influencer and Turning Point CEO Charlie Kirk has reportedly been shot after gunfire rang out at an event at Utah Valley University on Wednesday.
Chaos erupted at Kirk's Q & A session and students ran for safety.
The right-wing firebrand, 31, was reportedly shot in the neck area and a suspect is in custody following the shooting. Jesus... It’s a start. Shooting random moderate media figures is a "start." Show nested quote +On September 11 2025 05:55 Doublemint wrote:On September 11 2025 05:39 KwarK wrote:On September 11 2025 04:07 Doublemint wrote:Charlie Kirk has been shot in Utah at an event.@dailymail onservative influencer and Turning Point CEO Charlie Kirk has reportedly been shot after gunfire rang out at an event at Utah Valley University on Wednesday.
Chaos erupted at Kirk's Q & A session and students ran for safety.
The right-wing firebrand, 31, was reportedly shot in the neck area and a suspect is in custody following the shooting. Jesus... It’s a start. to nothing good. if we remember, Trump used "Big Balls" getting beat up as a pretense to send the national guard into D.C. only god knows what nightmarish response they come up with after Kirk's death. It's entirely possible people might use these waves of violence as some kind of political tool to justify policies that stop waves of violence.
Moderate is doing Atlas levels of heavy lifting in that sentence.
Doesn’t mean he should be shot either, but come on.
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