US Politics Mega-thread - Page 4423

On October 02 2024 00:31 NewSunshine wrote:
oBlade... What the actual fuck are you talking about? That you're not saying FEMA wants to implement communism, but that they want to instill equity, only you think equity is a dogwhistle for communism? You're saying FEMA wants to instill communism then, my dude.

On October 02 2024 01:08 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
oBlade is literally fabricating quotes without sourcing them

On October 02 2024 01:09 oBlade wrote:

Equity means equality of outcomes, which is one of the key goals advanced by revolutionaries.

On October 02 2024 01:14 KwarK wrote:

"Peace, land, and bread" is a Bolshevik slogan but that doesn't mean that bread has a secret agenda.

On October 02 2024 01:16 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:


Go back and read clarifying questions you haven't answered.

On October 02 2024 01:09 oBlade wrote:
"Implementing communism" is what you would expect Stalin or Mao or Pol Pot to do rather than FEMA, which doesn't decide the form of government in any country.

On October 02 2024 01:49 NewSunshine wrote:
A "flurry of fuss" where, and by whom? Is this a Truth Social or 8chan thing? Are these the same people who regularly use the term "remigration"?

On October 02 2024 01:09 oBlade wrote:

Equity means equality of outcomes, which is one of the key goals advanced by revolutionaries. But in the modern US outside of campus it's usually still somewhat taboo to just present explicitly as a communist. There are other phrases used to code for hard left. "Implementing communism" is what you would expect Stalin or Mao or Pol Pot to do rather than FEMA, which doesn't decide the form of government in any country.

What?

On October 02 2024 02:43 oBlade wrote:

It's my friend whose house is underwater and people in his community relying on the volunteer efforts of private helicopter and bush pilots, at least one of whom was threatened with arrest, and all the citizens of North Carolina wondering why the 82nd Airborne and 101st Airborne that are HQed at Fort Liberty haven't been sent to help when the 46th resident said they sent everything and there's no resources left.

Want to know what FEMA spent $650 million on in 2024? You guessed it. Housing migrants.

The intent is to support CBP in the safe, orderly and humane release of noncitizen migrants from short-term holding facilities.

On October 02 2024 03:06 Billyboy wrote:

You have your definitions wrong. It is either the quality of being fair and impartial or the value of shares issued by a company.

Equality would be closer to communism as it means having everything equal. Equity is about fairness usually linked to opportunity. Everyone regardless of political affiliation should be on board with equity. Most times it is used that no matter your back ground (race, wealth, gender) you have the same opportunity for success. If anything it is what capitalism is supposed to be. The only people who should be against equity are nepo babies and those super advantaged by the current system, again no matter its political affiliation.

On October 02 2024 05:53 Falling wrote:

I believe this is backwards. Equality means equal opportunity and is generally the thing that is sniffily dismissed by for instance DiAngelo's White Fragility. (Unless she also and her class of writers also have it backwards.) Whereas, the same book lauds equity which seems to describe an equality of outcome as if every job (or at least the more desirable ones) are not largely representative of the broader demographic of a given country then the assumption is there is some sort of ism at play whether it be sexism, racism, abelism, etc.

Equality means each individual or group of people is given the same resources or opportunities. Equity recognizes that each person has different circumstances and allocates the exact resources and opportunities needed to reach an equal outcome.

quality is one of the central principles of democracy and is based on the belief that all people should have the same opportunities to be successful and have a productive, enjoyable life. Equality is rooted in fairness since it is linked to another American ideal, that of a meritocracy. The idea of equality is key to the notion that everyone will be able to achieve based on their efforts and contributions to society instead of their status or position. Equality was particularly important during the civil rights era when nonwhites didn't have equal standing or treatment before the law. More recently there has been a debate about whether equality is enough and whether equity is a more important principle.
Equity recognizes that everyone doesn't begin in the same place in society. Some people face adverse conditions and circumstances making it more challenging with the same effort to achieve the same goals. Equity advocates for those who may have been historically disadvantaged, making it difficult for them to be successful. What is “fair” as it relates to equity isn't a question of what is the same but rather the point from which a person begins. Equity takes into account historical and other factors in determining what is fair.

Equity refers to fairness or justice in the way people are treated, and especially freedom from bias or favoritism, as in “governed according to the principle of equity.” Equality refers to the quality or state of having the same rights and opportunities, as in “women’s struggle for equality.”

Equity recognizes each person has different circumstances and needs, meaning different groups of people need different resources and opportunities allocated to them in order to thrive.

Equality, on the other hand, is giving everyone the exact same resources across the board, regardless of individual or groups of people’s actual needs or opportunities/resources already provided to them.

On October 02 2024 03:04 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:


Out of tens of billions of dollars, FEMA spent less than one billion dollars on homes for people who needed them? The horror!

On October 02 2024 06:44 BlackJack wrote:
NYC has said that it is poised to spend $12 billion on the migrant crisis through fiscal year 2025. That's just one city. Even that amount is not enough as they plead for additional funding from state and federal sources due to being "past the breaking point." I've posted in the past the anger NYC government has drawn from its citizens for some controversial ideas, such as attempting to turn vacant apartments in Harlem into a migrant shelter and using a high school as emergency shelter forcing students back into "remote learning."