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KT_Elwood
Germany969 Posts
Biden mindcontrolled local diphsit who steals dad's gun and doesn't even get the job done. Right! | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States23250 Posts
Welcome to US politics where the leading candidate for president is a moronic demagogue? | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States44378 Posts
On July 15 2024 03:35 Agh wrote: Probably the only time I'll ever post in a politics thread but you have to be an absolute fucking moron to think that their is OR was not fraud for both sides for the election. The only reason democrats get extra flak was because they had a lot more egregious cases. A personal favorite/highlight were the Georgia county ones where peoples votes were altered despite being public record and viewable. Then when they posted about it on facebook, twitter, etc it just resulted in your account getting removed/flagged/silenced. But hey censorship is good as long as it fits your desired narrative right? Any type of infringement or impediment of free speech needs to be smited off of the universe. Anyone that finds they strongly align with either side is just a sheep on top of being a clown. I think it's for the best that that's "probably the only time you'll ever post in a politics thread", because of how utterly asinine your post was. Thanks for sharing your conspiracy theories and name-calling though. Extremely insightful. | ||
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Sent.
Poland9201 Posts
On July 15 2024 03:30 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Would you mind elaborating a bit on why you think Biden is likely to win? I think Biden/Democrat victory is the default outcome because they're more capable of attracting people on the fence while the Republican party's strategy is mostly successful at mobilizing those would never vote Democrat anyway. They're turning into something similar to the French far right that has a nearly blind support of 30-40% of the population and next to no chance of convincing the rest to vote for them in high turnout elections. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States44378 Posts
On July 15 2024 03:54 Sent. wrote: I think Biden/Democrat victory is the default outcome because they're more capable of attracting people on the fence while the Republican party's strategy is mostly successful at mobilizing those would never vote Democrat anyway. They're turning into something similar to the French far right that has a nearly blind support of 30-40% of the population and next to no chance of convincing the rest to vote for them in high turnout elections. Thanks! I hope you're right! | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands21709 Posts
On July 15 2024 03:54 Sent. wrote: Except they won in 2016 and were some 40k votes away from winning in 2020I think Biden/Democrat victory is the default outcome because they're more capable of attracting people on the fence while the Republican party's strategy is mostly successful at mobilizing those would never vote Democrat anyway. They're turning into something similar to the French far right that has a nearly blind support of 30-40% of the population and next to no chance of convincing the rest to vote for them in high turnout elections. | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States23250 Posts
On July 15 2024 03:57 Gorsameth wrote: Except they won in 2016 and were some 40k votes away from winning in 2020 People forget that Trump got ~11 million more votes in 2020 than he did in 2016. More people wanted him to have a 2nd term than wanted to give him a first. I don't believe that will be the case for Biden since his favorables have had a -40% swing since being elected. They are also lower than any president at this point that has gone on to win reelection. | ||
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Agh
United States982 Posts
On July 15 2024 03:50 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: I think it's for the best that that's "probably the only time you'll ever post in a politics thread", because of how utterly asinine your post was. Thanks for sharing your conspiracy theories and name-calling though. Extremely insightful. I think the most amusing part is that I can copy paste your message and apply it to your own post. Perhaps you've never thought about debates, arguments, or points in that light? Along that vein.. Why bother with critical thinking when you can have someone else do it for you?  Sorry my text was able to hurt your feelings. Since you couldn't figure it out I'll point out that the reason I don't post is I'm more than content letting people wallow in their own ignorance. | ||
KwarK
United States42784 Posts
On July 15 2024 04:15 Agh wrote: I think the most amusing part is that I can copy paste your message and apply it to your own post. Perhaps you've never thought about debates, arguments, or points in that light? Along that vein.. Why bother with critical thinking when you can have someone else do it for you? Sorry my text was able to hurt your feelings. Since you couldn't figure it out I'll point out that the reason I don't post is I'm more than content letting people wallow in their own ignorance. They looked very hard for fraud in the election and all they found was a handful of Republicans voting for Trump multiple times. No races were impacted. | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands21709 Posts
What else is there to discuss? | ||
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oBlade
United States5612 Posts
On July 14 2024 11:41 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: This past January, Trump told the grieving families of an Iowa school shooting to "get over it" and just "move forward". Trump told them (addressing the entire community & state) in a very somber voice "it's horrible to see that happening... we have to get over it, we have to move forward." This is why you left the "just" out of your quotation marks, because even you knew that would be over the line of dishonest. https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-tells-supporters-get-iowa-school-shooting-move-forward-rcna132610 On July 14 2024 11:41 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: A bullet grazed Trump's ear? Get over it. Move forward. He did that when he asked for his shoes, stood up and said, "Fight, fight." On July 14 2024 11:41 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Not to mention the tens of thousands of annual gun-related deaths and hundreds of annual mass shootings that Republicans don't even remotely care about, despite every single one of those gun victims being far less toxic and destructive to America than Trump. I don't mean to put words in their mouths, but Republicans do care about crime, law and order is one of their key issues, this is a basic thing to know about your opposition, and many of those victims you mention are literal gang members shooting at each other. On July 14 2024 11:41 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Trump has way more blood on his hands than what came from his ear. Name two. On July 14 2024 11:41 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: I'd much rather beat Trump in an election than have him assassinated, but he's absolutely the last person to deserve any sympathy. Deserve or not, he doesn't need your sympathy and didn't ask for it, so it's a moot issue. The issue is that disregarding any semblance of principles and morality doesn't give you a moral high ground. If you have to abandon them and resort to assassination apologism to try to stop the alleged "Worst American," (your words), you may have been wrong about your righteousness to begin with - perhaps people voting for someone you don't like isn't really "undermining democracy." Democracy isn't on the line. You're just losing. Don't think you can replace ballots with bullets. On July 14 2024 20:27 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: That's weirdly cherry-picked. Some polls still have Biden (or other Dem alternatives) barely ahead or tied with Trump in a head-to-head race. Of course, other polls also put Trump ahead, especially when factoring in third-party candidates. https://www.realclearpolling.com/latest-polls/president/general-election One could have just as easily asserted that it's "more likely just another deranged" conservative who thought Trump would benefit from the sympathy of a failed assassination attempt, since Trump's poll numbers didn't skyrocket from Biden's poor debate performance. It's silly to speculate in these ways, whether it's about the whole thing being staged, or the whole thing being a reaction to a few inconspicuous polls in either direction. What "another?" Do you have any single example of a Republican supporter false flag fake assassinating one of their own people and ending up as cherry pie on a roof tile in order to help their poll numbers? You could assert pigs fly just as easily as anything, the ease with which you can assert something is not related to how relatively likely it is to be true. Here's my speculation. The sitting resident of the White House days ago said "We're done talking about the debate, it's time to put Trump in a bullseye." Two days ago he said, "I mean this from the bottom of my heart, Trump is a threat to this nation." Weeks before that he tweeted: https://x.com/JoeBiden/status/1806745000971296833 The Huffington Post days ago ran with "Supreme Court Gives Joe Biden The Legal OK To Assassinate Donald Trump" as a headline. CNN posted Trump "fell" and the NYT front page says Trump was hurt at a "shooting." I personally saw this + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](https://i.ibb.co/0BsHHbd/wtfwiki.png) on Wikipedia during the peak of confusion somehow injected over the page about the assassination attempt. Lee Zeldin was attacked. Two Republican councilmembers from New Jersey were killed. Maxine Waters said she would take Trump out. The sitting resident said he would take him behind the gym and beat him up. Colorado Rep Woodrow tells us "We don't need sympathy for the devil" after Trump is shot. The assistant to Congressman Thompson who proposed the Secret Service removal bill said if you're going to attempt assassination, please learn to aim. Rep Goldman went on TV and said Trump has to be "eliminated." Madonna thought a lot about blowing up the WH, or so she said in front of cameras in front of a huge crowd. Kathy Griffin - too tasteless to repeat. Rand Paul got assaulted and we heard "Today we are all Rand Paul's neighbor." Pelosi said he was right to attack him. This is 90% one side and it's a reaction to an imagined caricature of Hitler Republicans that coming on 2 generations have been brainwashed into. The same people pushing this shit now wait until the shooter missed and they overplayed their hand to be like "Oh actually let's be civil." Politicians, at least. The media are still all in on Orange Hitler. The Atlantic is recommending Trump use this chance to remind people not to be violent. Perhaps he will set an example by promising not to get shot again? There's your "deranged leftists" that you could speculate this is another of. There's your "stochastic terrorism." That is made-up nebulous bullshit so Blue people are justified in saying and doing whatever they want against it. Decent people everywhere should be and are ashamed to be associated with this lunacy, and we are happy to welcome you back at any time. The SS better be on 500% alert because if one 20 year old idiot can get this close, who knows what could happen. | ||
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micronesia
United States24690 Posts
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KwarK
United States42784 Posts
Trump invited the Taliban to Camp David, treated with them, then surrendered to them. He inked the agreement in which the US agreed to stand aside while they defeated the ANA and then unilaterally withdraw. Not the worst thing he's done but the idea that he doesn't have blood on his hands is laughable. | ||
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TentativePanda
United States800 Posts
On July 15 2024 04:24 oBlade wrote: Trump told them (addressing the entire community & state) in a very somber voice "it's horrible to see that happening... we have to get over it, we have to move forward." This is why you left the "just" out of your quotation marks, because even you knew that would be over the line of dishonest. https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-tells-supporters-get-iowa-school-shooting-move-forward-rcna132610 He did that when he asked for his shoes, stood up and said, "Fight, fight." I don't mean to put words in their mouths, but Republicans do care about crime, law and order is one of their key issues, this is a basic thing to know about your opposition, and many of those victims you mention are literal gang members shooting at each other. Name two. Deserve or not, he doesn't need your sympathy and didn't ask for it, so it's a moot issue. The issue is that disregarding any semblance of principles and morality doesn't give you a moral high ground. If you have to abandon them and resort to assassination apologism to try to stop the alleged "Worst American," (your words), you may have been wrong about your righteousness to begin with - perhaps people voting for someone you don't like isn't really "undermining democracy." Democracy isn't on the line. You're just losing. Don't think you can replace ballots with bullets. What "another?" Do you have any single example of a Republican supporter false flag fake assassinating one of their own people and ending up as cherry pie on a roof tile in order to help their poll numbers? You could assert pigs fly just as easily as anything, the ease with which you can assert something is not related to how relatively likely it is to be true. Here's my speculation. The sitting resident of the White House days ago said "We're done talking about the debate, it's time to put Trump in a bullseye." Two days ago he said, "I mean this from the bottom of my heart, Trump is a threat to this nation." Weeks before that he tweeted: https://x.com/JoeBiden/status/1806745000971296833 The Huffington Post days ago ran with "Supreme Court Gives Joe Biden The Legal OK To Assassinate Donald Trump" as a headline. CNN posted Trump "fell" and the NYT front page says Trump was hurt at a "shooting." I personally saw this + Show Spoiler + on Wikipedia during the peak of confusion somehow injected over the page about the assassination attempt. Lee Zeldin was attacked. Two Republican councilmembers from New Jersey were killed. Maxine Waters said she would take Trump out. The sitting resident said he would take him behind the gym and beat him up. Colorado Rep Woodrow tells us "We don't need sympathy for the devil" after Trump is shot. The assistant to Congressman Thompson who proposed the Secret Service removal bill said if you're going to attempt assassination, please learn to aim. Rep Goldman went on TV and said Trump has to be "eliminated." Madonna thought a lot about blowing up the WH, or so she said in front of cameras in front of a huge crowd. Kathy Griffin - too tasteless to repeat. Rand Paul got assaulted and we heard "Today we are all Rand Paul's neighbor." Pelosi said he was right to attack him. This is 90% one side and it's a reaction to an imagined caricature of Hitler Republicans that coming on 2 generations have been brainwashed into. The same people pushing this shit now wait until the shooter missed and they overplayed their hand to be like "Oh actually let's be civil." Politicians, at least. The media are still all in on Orange Hitler. The Atlantic is recommending Trump use this chance to remind people not to be violent. Perhaps he will set an example by promising not to get shot again? There's your "deranged leftists" that you could speculate this is another of. There's your "stochastic terrorism." That is made-up nebulous bullshit so Blue people are justified in saying and doing whatever they want against it. Decent people everywhere should be and are ashamed to be associated with this lunacy, and we are happy to welcome you back at any time. The SS better be on 500% alert because if one 20 year old idiot can get this close, who knows what could happen. I applaud you for taking the time to write this masterclass rebuttal to these craven manchildren who absolutely will not ever be critical of the thoughts being fed to them. It's honestly scary how many people, right or left, feel that this election is life or death for them or others. We are talking about two people who have been president and basically nothing materially changed in anyone's lives across their presidencies (at least because of their presidency). He simply is NOT a threat to democracy no matter how badly people WANT him to be in order to say "I told you so", which is so damn insidious | ||
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TentativePanda
United States800 Posts
On July 15 2024 04:28 KwarK wrote: Trump invited the Taliban to Camp David, treated with them, then surrendered to them. He inked the agreement in which the US agreed to stand aside while they defeated the ANA and then unilaterally withdraw. Not the worst thing he's done but the idea that he doesn't have blood on his hands is laughable. If you somehow think this is a reasoned counterargument you're very wrong | ||
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KwarK
United States42784 Posts
On July 15 2024 04:45 TentativePanda wrote: If you somehow think this is a reasoned counterargument you're very wrong Well, can't argue with that. | ||
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SC-Shield
Bulgaria818 Posts
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TentativePanda
United States800 Posts
Didn't mean for you to - I'd never waste my time arguing with someone intellectually bankrupt User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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TentativePanda
United States800 Posts
On July 15 2024 04:47 SC-Shield wrote: If Trump isn't a threat to democracy, then what do you say about Capitol attack? I think that calling it an insurrection, or even an attack really, is wildly disproportionate attempt to create hysteria. Which works REALLY well on fools with no capacity to reason. Trump literally just survived an assassination attempt and yet you point to this faux coup as the most recent threat to democracy - craven, you're fucking craven my guy | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States44378 Posts
On July 15 2024 04:41 TentativePanda wrote: I applaud you for taking the time to write this masterclass rebuttal to these craven manchildren who absolutely will not ever be critical of the thoughts being fed to them. It's honestly scary how many people, right or left, feel that this election is life or death for them or others. We are talking about two people who have been president and basically nothing materially changed in anyone's lives across their presidencies (at least because of their presidency). He simply is NOT a threat to democracy no matter how badly people WANT him to be in order to say "I told you so", which is so damn insidious The repeal of Roe v. Wade has absolutely materially changed people's lives. Also, it's insane to suggest that Trump isn't a threat to democracy just because his attempt at overthrowing democracy failed. I'll try to respond to oBlade's post when I have significantly more time. | ||
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