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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46136 Posts
May 25 2023 09:24 GMT
#78721
On May 25 2023 17:21 Gorsameth wrote:
I indeed really wonder why DeSantis didn't announce on Fox. Fox wants away from Trump and his 800 million costing 'election fraud' lies but can't because their viewers are his base. Surely Fox would love to give DeSantis exposure to try and pull Trumps base away from him.

Did Fox not want to risk the Republican civil war happening on their platform or did DeSantis just colossally miscalculate?


It could very well be a bit of both. Fox won't get behind a specific non-Trump Republican candidate until the candidate polls competitively well against Trump, I think. And DeSantis should have picked a better coming-out strategy.

Sidenote: Is the punny name "Ron DeSaster" too clever for Trump to think up on his own? It'd be sad if he just sticks to names like Meatball Ron.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18864 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-05-25 10:59:42
May 25 2023 10:59 GMT
#78722
I dunno, I have grown attached to using Meatball Ron myself
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
FeatherPlanes
Profile Joined June 2022
45 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-05-25 11:18:41
May 25 2023 11:03 GMT
#78723
On May 25 2023 17:21 Gorsameth wrote:
I indeed really wonder why DeSantis didn't announce on Fox. Fox wants away from Trump and his 800 million costing 'election fraud' lies but can't because their viewers are his base. Surely Fox would love to give DeSantis exposure to try and pull Trumps base away from him.

Did Fox not want to risk the Republican civil war happening on their platform or did DeSantis just colossally miscalculate?


If recent Republican grumbling is any indication, they're actually not entirely pleased that DeSantis is actually willing to seriously push the culture war to its logical conclusion. There's definitely Republican business owners in Florida that have voiced their annoyance that their preferred illegal immigrant is fleeing Florida for a blue state because Florida is actually going to crack down on illegal immigration. The culture war is meant to only serve as a wedge issue, not directly screw their bags by driving up fruit picking or construction labor costs (or god forbid halt progress).

I think DeSantis went with Twitter because him and Musk are peas in a pod. I think they're really misunderstanding how popular they actually are, DeSantis is actually running with Make America Florida when Florida is globally known to be a bit of a laughing stock is proof enough. Musk similarly got blindsided when he got booed mercilessly at Dave Chapelle's show.

On May 25 2023 19:59 farvacola wrote:
I dunno, I have grown attached to using Meatball Ron myself


Ron DeSanctimonious is still his best name I think. Its so childish but it really does sum up DeSantis.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46136 Posts
May 25 2023 11:10 GMT
#78724
On May 25 2023 19:59 farvacola wrote:
I dunno, I have grown attached to using Meatball Ron myself


Besides his MAGA tagline, he could sell a lot of hats/shirts for the Republican primary if he starts using the slogan + Show Spoiler +
"Don't Be A Ron-tard"
. It's crass and completely inappropriate, but precisely in line with his character and the kind of politically incorrect edginess that appeals to his followers.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46136 Posts
May 25 2023 11:13 GMT
#78725
On May 25 2023 20:03 FeatherPlanes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2023 17:21 Gorsameth wrote:
I indeed really wonder why DeSantis didn't announce on Fox. Fox wants away from Trump and his 800 million costing 'election fraud' lies but can't because their viewers are his base. Surely Fox would love to give DeSantis exposure to try and pull Trumps base away from him.

Did Fox not want to risk the Republican civil war happening on their platform or did DeSantis just colossally miscalculate?


If recent Republican grumbling is any indication, they're actually not entirely pleased that DeSantis is actually willing to seriously push the culture war to its logical conclusion. There's definitely Republican business owners in Florida that have voiced their annoyance that their preferred illegal immigrant is fleeing Florida for a blue state because Florida is actually going to crack down on illegal immigration. The culture war is meant to only serve as a wedge issue, not directly screw their bags and halt fruit picking or construction.

I think DeSantis went with Twitter because him and Musk are peas in a pod. I think they're really misunderstanding how popular they actually are, DeSantis is actually running with Make America Florida when Florida is globally known to be a bit of a laughing stock is proof enough. Musk similarly got blindsided when he got booed mercilessly at Dave Chapelle's show.


I thought for sure that this was a line to simply make fun of DeSantis, but apparently he's actually running with it: https://makeamericaflorida.shop/ Wow. Talk about not having your finger on the pulse of... the other 49 states.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
FeatherPlanes
Profile Joined June 2022
45 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-05-25 11:42:12
May 25 2023 11:28 GMT
#78726
On May 25 2023 20:13 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2023 20:03 FeatherPlanes wrote:
On May 25 2023 17:21 Gorsameth wrote:
I indeed really wonder why DeSantis didn't announce on Fox. Fox wants away from Trump and his 800 million costing 'election fraud' lies but can't because their viewers are his base. Surely Fox would love to give DeSantis exposure to try and pull Trumps base away from him.

Did Fox not want to risk the Republican civil war happening on their platform or did DeSantis just colossally miscalculate?


If recent Republican grumbling is any indication, they're actually not entirely pleased that DeSantis is actually willing to seriously push the culture war to its logical conclusion. There's definitely Republican business owners in Florida that have voiced their annoyance that their preferred illegal immigrant is fleeing Florida for a blue state because Florida is actually going to crack down on illegal immigration. The culture war is meant to only serve as a wedge issue, not directly screw their bags and halt fruit picking or construction.

I think DeSantis went with Twitter because him and Musk are peas in a pod. I think they're really misunderstanding how popular they actually are, DeSantis is actually running with Make America Florida when Florida is globally known to be a bit of a laughing stock is proof enough. Musk similarly got blindsided when he got booed mercilessly at Dave Chapelle's show.


I thought for sure that this was a line to simply make fun of DeSantis, but apparently he's actually running with it: https://makeamericaflorida.shop/ Wow. Talk about not having your finger on the pulse of... the other 49 states.


Even worse, the logo can be childishly read as Make America Lorida. You know people are going to mock him for this.

None of this really seems that competent. Introvert says Twitter's technical issues don't really mean that much but I think it kind of does? Both Trump and Biden have already attacked DeSantis' judgement to choose a unstable platform to launch his presidential campaign. While both of them are being childish with their attacks, the point is actually pretty valid. Why Twitter and not a platform that is actually reliable?

Twitter has long been dogshit for audio and video and its obvious that Musk's changes have negatively impacted the website's stability and functionality. Unless you are a Twitter Blue buying idiot, you know that Twitter's functionality is pretty awful right now. The majority of replies in any tweet are dull Twitter Blue reply guys and the algorithm to push tweets is severely broken considering a load of people are reporting that they're getting pushed a whole load of WorldStarHipHop type garbage, entrepreneur scams, and animal abuse content. Its really hard to use it to aggregate community/news content because it just doesn't work like it used to. Nothing really does.

Why no one on his team told him to choose a reliable outlet to launch his presidential campaign is a mystery to me because I think Fox News or Newsmax would be more than happy for the views? That's what the majority of people are wondering, heck he could have launched on Rumble if he wanted to launch on a conservative leaning social media website and I can guarantee it wouldn't have any of the technical difficulties he had here.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46136 Posts
May 25 2023 11:40 GMT
#78727
On May 25 2023 20:28 FeatherPlanes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2023 20:13 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On May 25 2023 20:03 FeatherPlanes wrote:
On May 25 2023 17:21 Gorsameth wrote:
I indeed really wonder why DeSantis didn't announce on Fox. Fox wants away from Trump and his 800 million costing 'election fraud' lies but can't because their viewers are his base. Surely Fox would love to give DeSantis exposure to try and pull Trumps base away from him.

Did Fox not want to risk the Republican civil war happening on their platform or did DeSantis just colossally miscalculate?


If recent Republican grumbling is any indication, they're actually not entirely pleased that DeSantis is actually willing to seriously push the culture war to its logical conclusion. There's definitely Republican business owners in Florida that have voiced their annoyance that their preferred illegal immigrant is fleeing Florida for a blue state because Florida is actually going to crack down on illegal immigration. The culture war is meant to only serve as a wedge issue, not directly screw their bags and halt fruit picking or construction.

I think DeSantis went with Twitter because him and Musk are peas in a pod. I think they're really misunderstanding how popular they actually are, DeSantis is actually running with Make America Florida when Florida is globally known to be a bit of a laughing stock is proof enough. Musk similarly got blindsided when he got booed mercilessly at Dave Chapelle's show.


I thought for sure that this was a line to simply make fun of DeSantis, but apparently he's actually running with it: https://makeamericaflorida.shop/ Wow. Talk about not having your finger on the pulse of... the other 49 states.


Even worse, the logo can be childishly read as Make America Lorida. You know people are going to mock him for this.


Only people educated in Florida would think that the state of Florida looks like an F.

None of this really seems that competent. Introvert says Twitter's technical issues don't really mean that much but I think it kind of does? Both Trump and Biden have already attacked DeSantis' judgement to choose a unstable platform to launch his presidential campaign. While both of them are being childish with their attacked, the point is actually pretty valid. Why Twitter and not a platform that is actually reliable?

Twitter has long been dogshit for audio and video and its obvious that Musk's changes have negatively impacted the website's stability and functionality. Unless you are a Twitter Blue buying idiot, you know that Twitter's functionality is pretty awful right now. The majority of replies in any tweet are dull Twitter Blue reply guys and the algorithm to push tweets is severely broken considering a load of people are reporting that they're getting pushed a whole load of WorldStarHipHop type garbage, entrepreneur scams, and animal abuse content. Its really hard to use it to aggregate community/news content because it just doesn't work like it used to.

Why no one on his team told him to choose a reliable outlet to launch his presidential campaign is a mystery to me because I think Fox News or Newsmax would be more than happy for the views? That's what the majority of people are wondering.


Those are valid points. Maybe he's trying to be "hip" by using social media or something, but given that it's Ron DeSantis, it'll just come off like Steve Buscemi's "how do you do, fellow kids" meme.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
FeatherPlanes
Profile Joined June 2022
45 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-05-25 12:01:10
May 25 2023 11:50 GMT
#78728
This is also real bad for Elon Musk, considering his social media platform couldn't handle less than 300,000 people listening to a radio show without dropping audio, having double audio, kicking DeSantis out of the room, etc. AM radio could probably do this in the 1920s.

Consider that Twitch handled AOC playing Among Us with 400,000 concurrent viewers. As a poster mentioned, even Trump knows Musk is basically a modern day confidence man. How DeSantis or anyone on his team didn't know this is bizarre. But his poor judgement resulted in his presidential campaign launch turning into a huge joke.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35173 Posts
May 25 2023 12:14 GMT
#78729
On May 25 2023 20:13 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2023 20:03 FeatherPlanes wrote:
On May 25 2023 17:21 Gorsameth wrote:
I indeed really wonder why DeSantis didn't announce on Fox. Fox wants away from Trump and his 800 million costing 'election fraud' lies but can't because their viewers are his base. Surely Fox would love to give DeSantis exposure to try and pull Trumps base away from him.

Did Fox not want to risk the Republican civil war happening on their platform or did DeSantis just colossally miscalculate?


If recent Republican grumbling is any indication, they're actually not entirely pleased that DeSantis is actually willing to seriously push the culture war to its logical conclusion. There's definitely Republican business owners in Florida that have voiced their annoyance that their preferred illegal immigrant is fleeing Florida for a blue state because Florida is actually going to crack down on illegal immigration. The culture war is meant to only serve as a wedge issue, not directly screw their bags and halt fruit picking or construction.

I think DeSantis went with Twitter because him and Musk are peas in a pod. I think they're really misunderstanding how popular they actually are, DeSantis is actually running with Make America Florida when Florida is globally known to be a bit of a laughing stock is proof enough. Musk similarly got blindsided when he got booed mercilessly at Dave Chapelle's show.


I thought for sure that this was a line to simply make fun of DeSantis, but apparently he's actually running with it: https://makeamericaflorida.shop/ Wow. Talk about not having your finger on the pulse of... the other 49 states.

At the same time, Florida seems to be the most, uhm, "accomplished" when it comes to legislating the culture war. I bet the amount of R voters that wish their state was more like Florida in that matter is large and will take that over any possible negatives they'd choose to ignore.
BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10574 Posts
May 25 2023 12:27 GMT
#78730
Don’t worry, I’ve been told this Twitter site won’t exist soon anyway due to Musk laying off 2/3 of the staff. The only reason it’s still online is for the same reason a Jet with no fuel can stay in the air for a little while. It should be offline any day now.
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11905 Posts
May 25 2023 13:15 GMT
#78731
On May 25 2023 20:13 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2023 20:03 FeatherPlanes wrote:
On May 25 2023 17:21 Gorsameth wrote:
I indeed really wonder why DeSantis didn't announce on Fox. Fox wants away from Trump and his 800 million costing 'election fraud' lies but can't because their viewers are his base. Surely Fox would love to give DeSantis exposure to try and pull Trumps base away from him.

Did Fox not want to risk the Republican civil war happening on their platform or did DeSantis just colossally miscalculate?


If recent Republican grumbling is any indication, they're actually not entirely pleased that DeSantis is actually willing to seriously push the culture war to its logical conclusion. There's definitely Republican business owners in Florida that have voiced their annoyance that their preferred illegal immigrant is fleeing Florida for a blue state because Florida is actually going to crack down on illegal immigration. The culture war is meant to only serve as a wedge issue, not directly screw their bags and halt fruit picking or construction.

I think DeSantis went with Twitter because him and Musk are peas in a pod. I think they're really misunderstanding how popular they actually are, DeSantis is actually running with Make America Florida when Florida is globally known to be a bit of a laughing stock is proof enough. Musk similarly got blindsided when he got booed mercilessly at Dave Chapelle's show.


I thought for sure that this was a line to simply make fun of DeSantis, but apparently he's actually running with it: https://makeamericaflorida.shop/ Wow. Talk about not having your finger on the pulse of... the other 49 states.


This is the stuff that just completely astonishes me. It is impossible to detect satire anymore. I, too, also thought that it had to just be a joke. No way someone would run on such an insanely stupid slogan.
And yeah, the "Make America Lorida" is also funny.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46136 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-05-25 13:23:30
May 25 2023 13:21 GMT
#78732
On May 25 2023 22:15 Simberto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2023 20:13 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On May 25 2023 20:03 FeatherPlanes wrote:
On May 25 2023 17:21 Gorsameth wrote:
I indeed really wonder why DeSantis didn't announce on Fox. Fox wants away from Trump and his 800 million costing 'election fraud' lies but can't because their viewers are his base. Surely Fox would love to give DeSantis exposure to try and pull Trumps base away from him.

Did Fox not want to risk the Republican civil war happening on their platform or did DeSantis just colossally miscalculate?


If recent Republican grumbling is any indication, they're actually not entirely pleased that DeSantis is actually willing to seriously push the culture war to its logical conclusion. There's definitely Republican business owners in Florida that have voiced their annoyance that their preferred illegal immigrant is fleeing Florida for a blue state because Florida is actually going to crack down on illegal immigration. The culture war is meant to only serve as a wedge issue, not directly screw their bags and halt fruit picking or construction.

I think DeSantis went with Twitter because him and Musk are peas in a pod. I think they're really misunderstanding how popular they actually are, DeSantis is actually running with Make America Florida when Florida is globally known to be a bit of a laughing stock is proof enough. Musk similarly got blindsided when he got booed mercilessly at Dave Chapelle's show.


I thought for sure that this was a line to simply make fun of DeSantis, but apparently he's actually running with it: https://makeamericaflorida.shop/ Wow. Talk about not having your finger on the pulse of... the other 49 states.


This is the stuff that just completely astonishes me. It is impossible to detect satire anymore. I, too, also thought that it had to just be a joke. No way someone would run on such an insanely stupid slogan.
And yeah, the "Make America Lorida" is also funny.


Also, it's completely unoriginal. For someone trying to be different from Trump, DeSantis literally copied Trump's "Make America Great Again" slogan. "Make America Great Again Florida." It's just... lame.

On May 25 2023 21:14 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2023 20:13 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On May 25 2023 20:03 FeatherPlanes wrote:
On May 25 2023 17:21 Gorsameth wrote:
I indeed really wonder why DeSantis didn't announce on Fox. Fox wants away from Trump and his 800 million costing 'election fraud' lies but can't because their viewers are his base. Surely Fox would love to give DeSantis exposure to try and pull Trumps base away from him.

Did Fox not want to risk the Republican civil war happening on their platform or did DeSantis just colossally miscalculate?


If recent Republican grumbling is any indication, they're actually not entirely pleased that DeSantis is actually willing to seriously push the culture war to its logical conclusion. There's definitely Republican business owners in Florida that have voiced their annoyance that their preferred illegal immigrant is fleeing Florida for a blue state because Florida is actually going to crack down on illegal immigration. The culture war is meant to only serve as a wedge issue, not directly screw their bags and halt fruit picking or construction.

I think DeSantis went with Twitter because him and Musk are peas in a pod. I think they're really misunderstanding how popular they actually are, DeSantis is actually running with Make America Florida when Florida is globally known to be a bit of a laughing stock is proof enough. Musk similarly got blindsided when he got booed mercilessly at Dave Chapelle's show.


I thought for sure that this was a line to simply make fun of DeSantis, but apparently he's actually running with it: https://makeamericaflorida.shop/ Wow. Talk about not having your finger on the pulse of... the other 49 states.

At the same time, Florida seems to be the most, uhm, "accomplished" when it comes to legislating the culture war. I bet the amount of R voters that wish their state was more like Florida in that matter is large and will take that over any possible negatives they'd choose to ignore.


Well, Florida is certainly in the news a lot. While they're doing a "good" job of hurting LGBTQ+ and education, I can't imagine too many other states want the money loss and job loss attached to DeSantis's anti-Disney crusade though.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Mikau313
Profile Joined January 2021
Netherlands230 Posts
May 25 2023 13:28 GMT
#78733
On May 25 2023 21:27 BlackJack wrote:
Don’t worry, I’ve been told this Twitter site won’t exist soon anyway due to Musk laying off 2/3 of the staff. The only reason it’s still online is for the same reason a Jet with no fuel can stay in the air for a little while. It should be offline any day now.


Bold comment after yesterday's shit show.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35173 Posts
May 25 2023 13:35 GMT
#78734
On May 25 2023 22:21 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2023 22:15 Simberto wrote:
On May 25 2023 20:13 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On May 25 2023 20:03 FeatherPlanes wrote:
On May 25 2023 17:21 Gorsameth wrote:
I indeed really wonder why DeSantis didn't announce on Fox. Fox wants away from Trump and his 800 million costing 'election fraud' lies but can't because their viewers are his base. Surely Fox would love to give DeSantis exposure to try and pull Trumps base away from him.

Did Fox not want to risk the Republican civil war happening on their platform or did DeSantis just colossally miscalculate?


If recent Republican grumbling is any indication, they're actually not entirely pleased that DeSantis is actually willing to seriously push the culture war to its logical conclusion. There's definitely Republican business owners in Florida that have voiced their annoyance that their preferred illegal immigrant is fleeing Florida for a blue state because Florida is actually going to crack down on illegal immigration. The culture war is meant to only serve as a wedge issue, not directly screw their bags and halt fruit picking or construction.

I think DeSantis went with Twitter because him and Musk are peas in a pod. I think they're really misunderstanding how popular they actually are, DeSantis is actually running with Make America Florida when Florida is globally known to be a bit of a laughing stock is proof enough. Musk similarly got blindsided when he got booed mercilessly at Dave Chapelle's show.


I thought for sure that this was a line to simply make fun of DeSantis, but apparently he's actually running with it: https://makeamericaflorida.shop/ Wow. Talk about not having your finger on the pulse of... the other 49 states.


This is the stuff that just completely astonishes me. It is impossible to detect satire anymore. I, too, also thought that it had to just be a joke. No way someone would run on such an insanely stupid slogan.
And yeah, the "Make America Lorida" is also funny.


Also, it's completely unoriginal. For someone trying to be different from Trump, DeSantis literally copied Trump's "Make America Great Again" slogan. "Make America Great Again Florida." It's just... lame.

Show nested quote +
On May 25 2023 21:14 Gahlo wrote:
On May 25 2023 20:13 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On May 25 2023 20:03 FeatherPlanes wrote:
On May 25 2023 17:21 Gorsameth wrote:
I indeed really wonder why DeSantis didn't announce on Fox. Fox wants away from Trump and his 800 million costing 'election fraud' lies but can't because their viewers are his base. Surely Fox would love to give DeSantis exposure to try and pull Trumps base away from him.

Did Fox not want to risk the Republican civil war happening on their platform or did DeSantis just colossally miscalculate?


If recent Republican grumbling is any indication, they're actually not entirely pleased that DeSantis is actually willing to seriously push the culture war to its logical conclusion. There's definitely Republican business owners in Florida that have voiced their annoyance that their preferred illegal immigrant is fleeing Florida for a blue state because Florida is actually going to crack down on illegal immigration. The culture war is meant to only serve as a wedge issue, not directly screw their bags and halt fruit picking or construction.

I think DeSantis went with Twitter because him and Musk are peas in a pod. I think they're really misunderstanding how popular they actually are, DeSantis is actually running with Make America Florida when Florida is globally known to be a bit of a laughing stock is proof enough. Musk similarly got blindsided when he got booed mercilessly at Dave Chapelle's show.


I thought for sure that this was a line to simply make fun of DeSantis, but apparently he's actually running with it: https://makeamericaflorida.shop/ Wow. Talk about not having your finger on the pulse of... the other 49 states.

At the same time, Florida seems to be the most, uhm, "accomplished" when it comes to legislating the culture war. I bet the amount of R voters that wish their state was more like Florida in that matter is large and will take that over any possible negatives they'd choose to ignore.


Well, Florida is certainly in the news a lot. While they're doing a "good" job of hurting LGBTQ+ and education, I can't imagine too many other states want the money loss and job loss attached to DeSantis's anti-Disney crusade though.

You're thinking too logically. It's about being seen as "hurting the right people."
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22439 Posts
May 25 2023 13:39 GMT
#78735
Yeah I would not have thought that slogan was real.
What the actual F is going on with his campaign Oo
MAGA works because it applies to everyone. "Bet you wished you were more like Florida" is not going to resonate as well with the other states...
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46136 Posts
May 25 2023 13:45 GMT
#78736
On May 25 2023 22:35 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2023 22:21 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On May 25 2023 22:15 Simberto wrote:
On May 25 2023 20:13 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On May 25 2023 20:03 FeatherPlanes wrote:
On May 25 2023 17:21 Gorsameth wrote:
I indeed really wonder why DeSantis didn't announce on Fox. Fox wants away from Trump and his 800 million costing 'election fraud' lies but can't because their viewers are his base. Surely Fox would love to give DeSantis exposure to try and pull Trumps base away from him.

Did Fox not want to risk the Republican civil war happening on their platform or did DeSantis just colossally miscalculate?


If recent Republican grumbling is any indication, they're actually not entirely pleased that DeSantis is actually willing to seriously push the culture war to its logical conclusion. There's definitely Republican business owners in Florida that have voiced their annoyance that their preferred illegal immigrant is fleeing Florida for a blue state because Florida is actually going to crack down on illegal immigration. The culture war is meant to only serve as a wedge issue, not directly screw their bags and halt fruit picking or construction.

I think DeSantis went with Twitter because him and Musk are peas in a pod. I think they're really misunderstanding how popular they actually are, DeSantis is actually running with Make America Florida when Florida is globally known to be a bit of a laughing stock is proof enough. Musk similarly got blindsided when he got booed mercilessly at Dave Chapelle's show.


I thought for sure that this was a line to simply make fun of DeSantis, but apparently he's actually running with it: https://makeamericaflorida.shop/ Wow. Talk about not having your finger on the pulse of... the other 49 states.


This is the stuff that just completely astonishes me. It is impossible to detect satire anymore. I, too, also thought that it had to just be a joke. No way someone would run on such an insanely stupid slogan.
And yeah, the "Make America Lorida" is also funny.


Also, it's completely unoriginal. For someone trying to be different from Trump, DeSantis literally copied Trump's "Make America Great Again" slogan. "Make America Great Again Florida." It's just... lame.

On May 25 2023 21:14 Gahlo wrote:
On May 25 2023 20:13 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On May 25 2023 20:03 FeatherPlanes wrote:
On May 25 2023 17:21 Gorsameth wrote:
I indeed really wonder why DeSantis didn't announce on Fox. Fox wants away from Trump and his 800 million costing 'election fraud' lies but can't because their viewers are his base. Surely Fox would love to give DeSantis exposure to try and pull Trumps base away from him.

Did Fox not want to risk the Republican civil war happening on their platform or did DeSantis just colossally miscalculate?


If recent Republican grumbling is any indication, they're actually not entirely pleased that DeSantis is actually willing to seriously push the culture war to its logical conclusion. There's definitely Republican business owners in Florida that have voiced their annoyance that their preferred illegal immigrant is fleeing Florida for a blue state because Florida is actually going to crack down on illegal immigration. The culture war is meant to only serve as a wedge issue, not directly screw their bags and halt fruit picking or construction.

I think DeSantis went with Twitter because him and Musk are peas in a pod. I think they're really misunderstanding how popular they actually are, DeSantis is actually running with Make America Florida when Florida is globally known to be a bit of a laughing stock is proof enough. Musk similarly got blindsided when he got booed mercilessly at Dave Chapelle's show.


I thought for sure that this was a line to simply make fun of DeSantis, but apparently he's actually running with it: https://makeamericaflorida.shop/ Wow. Talk about not having your finger on the pulse of... the other 49 states.

At the same time, Florida seems to be the most, uhm, "accomplished" when it comes to legislating the culture war. I bet the amount of R voters that wish their state was more like Florida in that matter is large and will take that over any possible negatives they'd choose to ignore.


Well, Florida is certainly in the news a lot. While they're doing a "good" job of hurting LGBTQ+ and education, I can't imagine too many other states want the money loss and job loss attached to DeSantis's anti-Disney crusade though.

You're thinking too logically. It's about being seen as "hurting the right people."


That's a good point. Frustrating, but definitely a good point. The Republican platform has been owning the libs / demographics that tend to be liberal/ progressive/ Democrat for some time now, so it makes sense.

On May 25 2023 22:39 Gorsameth wrote:
Yeah I would not have thought that slogan was real.
What the actual F is going on with his campaign Oo
MAGA works because it applies to everyone. "et ou ished ou ere ore ike lorida" is not going to resonate as well with the other states...


Fixed that for you.
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The Lorida thing works a bit more if you envision the state itself as an F, but backwards. They know what they're about, and it certainly ain't progress.
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On May 25 2023 22:39 Gorsameth wrote:
Yeah I would not have thought that slogan was real.
What the actual F is going on with his campaign Oo
MAGA works because it applies to everyone. "Bet you wished you were more like Florida" is not going to resonate as well with the other states...


It resonates well enough to make Florida far and away the leader in net migration, I.e. people leaving other states to move to Florida
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May 25 2023 15:41 GMT
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On May 26 2023 00:29 BlackJack wrote:
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On May 25 2023 22:39 Gorsameth wrote:
Yeah I would not have thought that slogan was real.
What the actual F is going on with his campaign Oo
MAGA works because it applies to everyone. "Bet you wished you were more like Florida" is not going to resonate as well with the other states...


It resonates well enough to make Florida far and away the leader in net migration, I.e. people leaving other states to move to Florida

You meant 4th, right? Per capita is the logical way to score this. Otherwise small desirable states that are overflowing with migrants would be scored below large states that accept a few in each city.
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