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Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
June 21 2018 23:12 GMT
#6521
On June 22 2018 07:51 GreenHorizons wrote:
Every once in a while those hipsters out in Oregon show people what being too ignorant/stubborn to accept that they "can't do anything" can accomplish.

Show nested quote +
The agency says safety concerns from staffers who had been blocked from leaving the facility have "temporarily halted" ICE operations.

Protesters started occupying the property around the ICE building on Macadam Avenue on Sunday evening, and the protest has grown to include more than two dozen tents and at times hundreds of demonstrators.

An ICE spokeswoman said in an email that the agency will re-open the building when the safety concerns from the protest have been addressed.

Here's the agency's full statement on the closure:

“U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) fully respects the rights of all people to voice their opinion without interference. ICE remains committed to immigration enforcement consistent with federal law and agency policy. The Federal Protective Service was called to the ICE office on Macadam Avenue Tuesday afternoon due to security concerns resulting from the ongoing protests at this location. Questions regarding arrests that took place should be directed to the Federal Protective Service. ICE operations at this location have been temporarily halted due to security concerns. Normal operations will resume once security concerns have been addressed. “Appointments scheduled for Wednesday at the ICE office on Macadam Avenue have been canceled. ICE deportation officers will touch base with individuals who had scheduled appointments at this location to reschedule. These appointments will not be reported as missed check-ins.”


www.wweek.com

As for clearing out the protesters. It doesn't look like they'll be getting much help from local officials.

.

You want to stop ICE from abusing and terrorizing people in or around your communities? That's what it's going to take.


I've been suuuuper pleased with Portland's response to ICE. Run those sacks of shit out of town. If anyone can run ICE out of town, its Portland.

http://www.wweek.com/culture/2018/06/20/fifty-licks-is-handing-out-free-ice-cream-to-ice-protesters-for-the-second-day-in-a-row/

Fifty licks is an ice cream truck that has been handing out free ice cream to protestors. They've earned my lifelong business. Salt & straw can go fuck itself.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
June 21 2018 23:19 GMT
#6522
I would endorse doing that in Boston, but Boston folks would just light the whole office on fire. We have no chill.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States24253 Posts
June 21 2018 23:24 GMT
#6523
On June 22 2018 08:19 Plansix wrote:
I would endorse doing that in Boston, but Boston folks would just light the whole office on fire. We have no chill.


They've done worse celebrating sports wins, at least this one would be for a good cause.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
June 21 2018 23:31 GMT
#6524
On June 22 2018 08:24 GreenHorizons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2018 08:19 Plansix wrote:
I would endorse doing that in Boston, but Boston folks would just light the whole office on fire. We have no chill.


They've done worse celebrating sports wins, at least this one would be for a good cause.

Win or lose, we burn dumpsters and yell racist shit.

The ICE agents would get hurt and the Times would another, somehow dumber opinion about the how civility is gone. People would be all sympathetic about the hurt agents. Chucky baker would say something dumb. Curt shilling would somehow get involved.

We are all better off leaving it to the Portland hipsters.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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iamthedave
Profile Joined February 2011
England2814 Posts
June 21 2018 23:34 GMT
#6525
On June 22 2018 08:24 GreenHorizons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2018 08:19 Plansix wrote:
I would endorse doing that in Boston, but Boston folks would just light the whole office on fire. We have no chill.


They've done worse celebrating sports wins, at least this one would be for a good cause.


I laughed. Heartily.

Got to admit, this whole ICE thing is only the second time during this election cycle I've felt true despair. I hope it gets resolved - properly resolved - before long, and I hope it isn't just a prelude to even more awfulness.

How are Faux News spinning this, by the way? Or have even they given up?
I'm not bad at Starcraft; I just think winning's rude.
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States24253 Posts
June 21 2018 23:35 GMT
#6526
On June 22 2018 08:31 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2018 08:24 GreenHorizons wrote:
On June 22 2018 08:19 Plansix wrote:
I would endorse doing that in Boston, but Boston folks would just light the whole office on fire. We have no chill.


They've done worse celebrating sports wins, at least this one would be for a good cause.

Win or lose, we burn dumpsters and yell racist shit.

The ICE agents would get hurt and the Times would another, somehow dumber opinion about the how civility is gone. People would be all sympathetic about the hurt agents. Chucky baker would say something dumb. Curt shilling would somehow get involved.

We are all better off leaving it to the Portland hipsters.


I'd say something Bostonian to that but it would be misinterpreted by someone. I'll just reiterate that if people want the horrors to stop, that's what they are going to have to do.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
June 21 2018 23:42 GMT
#6527
On June 22 2018 08:35 GreenHorizons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2018 08:31 Plansix wrote:
On June 22 2018 08:24 GreenHorizons wrote:
On June 22 2018 08:19 Plansix wrote:
I would endorse doing that in Boston, but Boston folks would just light the whole office on fire. We have no chill.


They've done worse celebrating sports wins, at least this one would be for a good cause.

Win or lose, we burn dumpsters and yell racist shit.

The ICE agents would get hurt and the Times would another, somehow dumber opinion about the how civility is gone. People would be all sympathetic about the hurt agents. Chucky baker would say something dumb. Curt shilling would somehow get involved.

We are all better off leaving it to the Portland hipsters.


I'd say something Bostonian to that but it would be misinterpreted by someone. I'll just reiterate that if people want the horrors to stop, that's what they are going to have to do.

I just looked it up, it is inside the Suffolk county house of corrections. That place is a brutalist fortress. They knew what city they were in.

People are protesting, but that is about it.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
June 22 2018 00:41 GMT
#6528
On June 22 2018 04:11 On_Slaught wrote:
I'm genuinely confused by this. It is a $39 dollar jacket, and there is no way she is wearing something that cheap unless she is trying to send a message. Why wear this while traveling to meet children you were campaigning for? Are we being trolled? Is this a cry for help? Trying to create a distraction? I have no idea...




Trump weighs in. I mean it is only a couple weeks after everybody from CNN to Yahoo News was speculating about how long Melania had not been seen by cameras. I hope Melania has something better to offer in her own words.
Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
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On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-22 00:50:29
June 22 2018 00:49 GMT
#6529
I love how that directly contradicts the statement from Melania's spokesperson. That he thinks anyone would believe this is laughable and his supporters should feel insulted he would try to sell it to them.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
June 22 2018 00:52 GMT
#6530
I really don’t understand any more. She wore it on purpose, there is no other explanation.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
June 22 2018 00:56 GMT
#6531
Personally, I like the theory that it was a message to Trump and was about their relationship. She seems done with him. Counting down the days to impeachment/resignation so she can take Barron and leave.
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32754 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-22 01:00:09
June 22 2018 00:58 GMT
#6532
I'll guess she just picked whatever was in her wardrobe for the day and never thought much of the writing or forgot there was any. Maybe it was chosen for practicality. I don't see it as a subliminal cry for help or some anti-media spiel that her husband is spinning it as. Sometime blue curtains are just blue curtains, and a jacket with writing is just a jacket with writing, albeit strangely fitting with the times.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
June 22 2018 01:00 GMT
#6533
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GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States24253 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-22 01:46:35
June 22 2018 01:45 GMT
#6534
I have the hardest time believing she wore a $40 jacket. This lady "gardens" in $200 jeans and a $1500 flannel shirt, a $40 jacket doesn't add up.

The most benign explanation is someone got ripped off. But I can't help to hear the "It's a jacket. There was no hidden message. After today's important visit to Texas, I hope the media isn't going to choose to focus on her wardrobe."

*bald guy hair flick*

In the most stereotypical snarkiest bougie gay publicist voice I can imagine.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
June 22 2018 02:40 GMT
#6535
I dunno, to me, it just seems extremely odd that she'll wear that. It's not even a cost thing but you would think that someone with her will see what's written and tell her that it may be wise to change if she didn't notice meh.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Nyxisto
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6287 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-22 02:49:00
June 22 2018 02:46 GMT
#6536
On June 22 2018 09:41 Danglars wrote:
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1009916650622251009


Nothing more mature and fit for the highest office in your entire country than taunting messages on the back of discounter jackets. But we already had Trump throwing candy at Merkel so not even sure if that's the new low.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
June 22 2018 02:51 GMT
#6537


This is a thread that leads to a Washington post story. This is exactly what the former ICE director said would happen. Some of these parents have lost their children forever because of our government. People bitched and moaned about catch and release like it was something terrible. It turns out they didn’t really have context for what truly terrible looks like. It’s this.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44242 Posts
June 22 2018 03:17 GMT
#6538
On June 22 2018 05:11 ThunderJunk wrote:
That's completely false. Most people found it completely bananas to consider that the earth might not be flat. Whether or not an opinion is correct objectively has nothing to do with peoples' knee-jerk reactions.

That's completely false. Everyone always knew that the world was round. Eratosthenes even calculated the circumference pretty accurately. But the whole horizon thing was pretty much enough for people to get the principle. Your opinion is objectively incorrect.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14187 Posts
June 22 2018 03:40 GMT
#6539
I think that the possibility of falling off the earth was enough of a deterrent for the people who didnt even have the ships capable of making that trip for most of history.

Its like how tomatoes were posion. Yeah probably not but why take a risk?
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44242 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-22 04:00:33
June 22 2018 03:56 GMT
#6540
On June 22 2018 12:40 Sermokala wrote:
I think that the possibility of falling off the earth was enough of a deterrent for the people who didnt even have the ships capable of making that trip for most of history.

Its like how tomatoes were posion. Yeah probably not but why take a risk?

That's like saying that the possibility of Pacman-ing off the edge of the map and finding yourself deep underground was what kept people from going into space for most of human history. Probably not a real thing, but why take the risk.
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