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Nebuchad
Switzerland12377 Posts
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IgnE
United States7681 Posts
who am i kidding? Trump would never resign | ||
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ZerOCoolSC2
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Nebuchad
Switzerland12377 Posts
On September 25 2019 08:44 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote: And I highly doubt pence would run again. He'd be more likely to walk away than continue this. Pence is probably not allowed to run an election when his wife isn't present anyway | ||
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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GreenHorizons
United States23515 Posts
On September 25 2019 07:47 farvacola wrote: Indeed, but with reference to the whistleblower complaint, there appears to be a common thread connecting the alleged acts. I’m not sure on whether this thing will move or not, but I do think it has legs that prior controversies did not. I'm thinking this just takes the place of Russiagate to keep the conversation away from real structural change. | ||
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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ZerOCoolSC2
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iPlaY.NettleS
Australia4374 Posts
On September 25 2019 05:11 PhoenixVoid wrote: There's talk that Pelosi will announce that she supports formal impeachment inquiry in about an hour. It's related to the Ukraine - Biden matter. Trump also said he's releasing the transcript for the phone call tomorrow. https://thehill.com/homenews/house/462836-pelosi-to-launch-formal-trump-impeachment-inquiry-report Please people, don’t get your hopes up that Trump will be impeached.You’ve been let down so many times already. Interested to see the transcript, Seems to me like Biden will be the one in trouble here. | ||
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ZerOCoolSC2
9010 Posts
On September 25 2019 10:10 iPlaY.NettleS wrote: Please people, don’t get your hopes up that Trump will be impeached.You’ve been let down so many times already. Interested to see the transcript, Seems to me like Biden will be the one in trouble here. How did you extrapolate that? | ||
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Amui
Canada10567 Posts
I'm real interested in how you got to Biden being in trouble for Trump asking Ukraine to investigate his son. If that's legal(which it isn't) then it opens up a real can of worms into Ivanka and Donald Jr, who undoubtedly have far more skeletons in their closets. | ||
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semantics
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I'm just wondering how many articles of impeachment are they going to try to take to vote for the greater house as only a simple majority is needed there. Given how long they sat on this i imagine it was so that they can fully drag as much stuff into the forefront as possible so that Trump can't possibly come out clean from there even if it never fully gets realized. Given the level of ignorance of the average voter it's not necessarily a bad idea to make sure that Trump supporters get actually informed of what he's been doing outside of the echo chambers. | ||
KwarK
United States43354 Posts
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Mohdoo
United States15725 Posts
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GreenHorizons
United States23515 Posts
On September 25 2019 13:24 Mohdoo wrote: Lmao white house "seeks a deal", how about shut the fuck up and obey the law Pelosi doesn't want to impeach but her caucus needs to in order to maintain credibility as opposition to Trump. The way Pelosi went into this makes me think all she wants is a deal like the one they gave Trump on avoiding the debt ceiling until 2021. | ||
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pmh
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On September 24 2019 23:36 GreenHorizons wrote: I'm saying actions of that scale and level of disruption are necessary and neoliberal harm reduction isn't only not a solution, it's a tool of repression meant to prevent such actions from being realized. Even that wouldn't change anything. Nothing short of a revolution is needed for this but there is far from enough support for that and there probably never will be. People like stability and the older they get the more resistant they become to changes in general. Environmentalist will start to realize this and some of them will become very radical. Trump and biden. What trump supposedly did is similar to Watergate but biden doesn't look good in the whole story either. Biden would be the worst candidate for the democrats if they want to win,but good for the progressives. Another big loss for the old party elite might make way for something completely different. There was an interesting discussion on tv a few months ago. Where someone postulated that we might be at the end of the historical period we call "enlightenment" which did start around 1800. This period which is characterised by a great believe in science,the scientific method and the objective "truth" seems to come to an end. When it comes to this aspect the world is in a much worse shape then say 50 years ago. Science is still making great progress but other forces driven by monetary incentives and interests are starting to overshadow science more and more. It is something to worry about for those who look at very long term development. Could it be true ? Is this the end of the enlightenment period in history and are we at the doorsteps of a period of regression similar to that in the early midievel ages (aka dark ages)? | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22007 Posts
On September 25 2019 18:09 pmh wrote: No because there is a world outside of America.Even that wouldn't change anything. Nothing short of a revolution is needed for this but there is far from enough support for that and there probably never will be. People like stability and the older they get the more resistant they become to changes in general. Environmentalist will start to realize this and some of them will become very radical. Trump and biden. What trump supposedly did is similar to Watergate but biden doesn't look good in the whole story either. Biden would be the worst candidate for the democrats if they want to win,but good for the progressives. Another big loss for the old party elite might make way for something completely different. There was an interesting discussion on tv a few months ago. Where someone postulated that we might be at the end of the historical period we call "enlightenment" which did start around 1800. This period which is characterised by a great believe in science,the scientific method and the objective "truth" seems to come to an end. When it comes to this aspect the world is in a much worse shape then say 50 years ago. Science is still making great progress but other forces driven by monetary incentives and interests are starting to overshadow science more and more. It is something to worry about for those who look at very long term development. Could it be true ? Is this the end of the enlightenment period in history and are we at the doorsteps of a period of regression similar to that in the early midievel ages (aka dark ages)? | ||
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iPlaY.NettleS
Australia4374 Posts
It’s that much of a stretch for you? Were you around for the incriminating Biden videos a few months ago where he admitted blackmailing Ukraine officials? 1:30 in : https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KCF9My1vBP4 Washington post goes into it more with this article called ‘ The whistleblower complaint may end up being worse for Joe Biden than Trump‘.It’s best not to fight it, just accept we are witnessing the beginning of the end of Biden’s campaign. https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/09/24/how-whistleblower-complaint-will-affect-election/?outputType=amp&utm_source=reddit.com Biden is a fragile front-runner and the whole matter involving his son’s foreign business dealings not only raises unflattering questions but provides plenty of reminders about his life in the swamp. Trump, on the other hand, is exceptionally durable with his base, to say nothing of the fact that his entire presidency has practically been defined by his ability to outlive Democratic “witch hunts.” | ||
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Dangermousecatdog
United Kingdom7084 Posts
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Simberto
Germany11686 Posts
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