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Sermokala
United States14211 Posts
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
https://theweek.com/speedreads/818180/mitch-mcconnell-only-reason-trump-hasnt-seen-spending-bill-says-alexandria-ocasiocortez | ||
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Doodsmack
United States7224 Posts
Personally I wonder whether a president who shuts down the government and asserts that it is his shutdown and that it was his idea is taking care to faithfully execute the laws. He is in fact shutting down the execution of laws. A shutdown is supposed to be an exercise by Congress of its power of the purse (according to the Republican reasoning used to justify the 2014 shutdown). Clearly the current shutdown was initiated by the president so I dont imagine they have a real argument to defend it. | ||
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sigh_so_sad
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On January 17 2019 08:59 Wulfey_LA wrote: This is a tough call. On the one hand, it was quite easy for Vladimir And Donald to convince Senate Republicans to stick with lifting sanctions on Russian oligarch OLEG DERIPASKA. Europe wanted the sanctions dropped... https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-01-11/europe-backs-mnuchin-s-bid-to-lift-sanctions-on-deripaska-firms Ambassadors to the U.S. representing the U.K., France, Germany and the European Union are among those who wrote a joint letter addressed to Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer and House Foreign Affairs Chairman Eliot Engel saying that lifting the sanctions would “safeguard” more than 75,000 workers across the EU’s aluminum industry. Do you not care about your precious NATO allies? User was banned for being a PBU. | ||
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Excludos
Norway8279 Posts
On January 17 2019 06:26 Logo wrote: It's amazing how well McConnell seems to have avoided anywhere near the amount of blame he deserves for this whole ordeal since he is completely unwilling to work on any veto-proof options to re-open the government despite that being very much in his power. If r/politics is anything to go by (which, granted, is rather left leaning right now), then at least 1/3 of articles posted on the subject blames Mitch for not not doing his job. It hasn't gone under the radar for the people who already hate him, but it might very well do for republicans who doesn't see through his shenanigans. | ||
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iamthedave
England2814 Posts
Worrying signs that some of the Dems are wavering. They're done if they cave on this. How many need to break ranks before Trump can get what he wants without the mainline Democrats? | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22662 Posts
On January 17 2019 18:09 iamthedave wrote: Previously Banned User.What's a PBU (two posts up)? Worrying signs that some of the Dems are wavering. They're done if they cave on this. How many need to break ranks before Trump can get what he wants without the mainline Democrats? 19 Dems need to break ranks if all Republicans vote in favor (which they may not do), but doesn't Pelosi control what gets voted on, in the same way McConnel does? | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
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iamthedave
England2814 Posts
Polling while people aren't been paid and are pissed off is always going to lead to these kinds of results. | ||
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On_Slaught
United States12190 Posts
BTW, got to love Guiliani changing his defense from "there was no collusion " to "The campaign may have colluded but Trump didnt." If Guiliani changing his stance is a barometer for how much trouble Trump is in, then we are in Def Con 2. | ||
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On_Slaught
United States12190 Posts
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
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KOFgokuon
United States14912 Posts
He has ultimate cover from trump | ||
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TheTenthDoc
United States9561 Posts
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
The only way McConnell doesn’t do this is if someone pulls a McCain and breaks ranks without messaging anything to leadership. But they would need several senators to join with Democrats to do this, so its unlikely. And Trump’s plan to be invited to the Senate is super funny. Just feed the democrats more B-roll of Trump forcing people to protect him and the Republicans without pay. | ||
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farvacola
United States18869 Posts
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
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Lmui
Canada6223 Posts
On January 18 2019 01:39 ticklishmusic wrote: if trump really tried to force the issue, i suppose we could see a hilarious standoff between the house sergeant at arms vs the secret service or something. I doubt it. Secret Service is there to prevent Trump from being hurt/hurting himself. They'll probably talk to the House sergeant at arms, like reasonable people, and help prevent Trump from entering. Likely, it's something that they've planned for already | ||
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IyMoon
United States1249 Posts
On January 17 2019 18:09 iamthedave wrote: What's a PBU (two posts up)? Worrying signs that some of the Dems are wavering. They're done if they cave on this. How many need to break ranks before Trump can get what he wants without the mainline Democrats? Where do you see dems breaking rank? I have not seen anything about it, but I am on super liberal sites most of the time so I wouldn't | ||
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