News media: discerning bias, propaganda, and lies - Page 5

On May 30 2017 02:07 MoonfireSpam wrote:
Now this isn't to say that fake news should be allowed, but isn't more of the problem that "people" can't critically think or appraise what they are reading?

On May 30 2017 02:14 Sermokala wrote:

Its pointless to complain about things you can't control or change.

On May 30 2017 18:51 a_flayer wrote:
And yet, the current system is working hard at whitewashing the war crimes caused by weapons sold by the United States. I'd say that mass propaganda seems to be happening right now due to the fact that there's just a few media conglomerates that exert at least some level of top-down control over their messaging. Messaging that largely forgoes criticism towards the state foreign policy and large corporations due to the few wealthy people with that top-down control that are profiting from it all in various ways (ad-money, stock options, etc). You can argue that there are a few outlets that do speak honestly about these things, but the simple fact is that many people do not get exposed to this kind of thing because of the masses of mainstream media that leave out details such as the war crimes in Yemen, which perpetuates the murders & rampant inequality due to lack of outrage.

Not to mention that these same media conglomerates have played their part in the scaremongering with regards to terrorism (and thus essentially working side-by-side with the terrorists, and instilling fear of immigrants in the population).

But, you know, Hitler, so we better keep it the way it is now. Close the thread people, we're done.

On May 30 2017 18:51 a_flayer wrote:
And yet, the current system is working hard at whitewashing the war crimes caused by weapons sold by the United States. I'd say that mass propaganda seems to be happening right now due to the fact that there's just a few media conglomerates that exert at least some level of top-down control over their messaging. Messaging that largely forgoes criticism towards the state foreign policy and large corporations due to the few wealthy people with that top-down control that are profiting from it all in various ways (ad-money, stock options, etc). You can argue that there are a few outlets that do speak honestly about these things, but the simple fact is that many people do not get exposed to this kind of thing because of the masses of mainstream media that leave out details such as the war crimes in Yemen, which perpetuates the murders & rampant inequality due to lack of outrage.

Not to mention that these same media conglomerates have played their part in the scaremongering with regards to terrorism (and thus essentially working side-by-side with the terrorists, and instilling fear of immigrants in the population).

But, you know, Hitler, so we better keep it the way it is now. Close the thread people, we're done.

On May 30 2017 22:38 Plansix wrote:

Godwin’s law really shouldn’t apply in a thread about propaganda, since Nazi Germany is a case study in the power of state media propaganda. But you are 100% correct that the fear mongering about terrorism has only fed the flames of violence.

On July 16 2017 12:42 Wulfey_LA wrote:
The President says that the CBO produces Fake News and his cultists and a huge Conservatainment propaganda industry repeat it. The CBO isn't some New Organization with an axe to grind. They are the last vestige of professional economics analysis in government. They still get called Fake News and a huge amount of people believe it. We can yammer about media bias all we want but we need to acknowledge the yawning asymmetry as to what people of different political persuasions consider to be Fake News.

EDIT: to be explicit:

What is fake news to Libs / Evidence based reality community: Hannity, FOX commentators, Breitbart, Trump, Sinclair Broadcasting Network, literally everything Pence says about reality (check it out, he is opposite man).

What is fake news to Cons / Cultists: everything that isn't wholly devoted to Trump and within the Conservative Entertainment industry. Literally all of it. And any evidence that might go against Dear Leader.

On April 07 2017 23:54 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
All news in the US, particularly, is biased and pretty much 60% propaganda. Hell look at the morning shows on basic cable half of it is literally infomercials and them talking about where they shopped and ate last then having a "interview" with said employees/managers to advertise for the next ten minutes. That's not even taking account the war drums the media is ready to beat for anyone or anything.

It's all consumer bullshit. From the same networks that own pretty much every other thing in the country.