ah, it's a muslim conducting terrorism.
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amazingxkcd
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
ah, it's a muslim conducting terrorism. | ||
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GoTuNk!
Chile4591 Posts
On June 12 2016 22:32 opisska wrote: I really hope that acts of a single individual do not create "heavy repercussions" all around the world - and that goes not only for just thus case, but in general. The whole "event X happened, so everyone needs to deal with this now" mentality is childish, leads to unsystemic actions and gets easily abused. I also disagree with you that "hate speech" should be criminalized - at least in Europe it shouldn't be punished more than it already is. We have already lost so much of our freedom of speech, no step in that direction has any chance of getting my sympathy. I understand how restricting people's right to day "bad" things can be attractive, but that slope is not just slippery, it's actively dragging you down. The very same mechanisms for restricting freedom of speech you adore right now could become a method of oppression the second you will have something to say that the powers to be don't want to hear. I know it may sound theoretical if you are coming from a country with a long history of freedom, but we hadn't had freedom of speech for a bigger part of 20th century and it was very painful and the society has still not recovered. On the other hand, I would happily subscribe for some notion of western world pushing other countries into accepting some gold standard of human rights and freedoms using political, economical and whatever non-violent means there are and LGBT right would definitely go into this package. However there is still quite of of lot work in the very western world before we can really face the rest of the planet with straight face, sadly. I agree 100% with this. It's important to highlight the contradiction within the liberal narrative. We should further restrict free speech in our western countries to protect "LGBT rights" while at the same time we should be "softer" and more tolerant with other more intolerant cultures (muslim countries) who actually target the LGBT people. | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
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Grettin
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On_Slaught
United States12190 Posts
Wait.. now they are saying 50 deaths on top of 50 non-fatal casualties? What a mess. Horrible communication around a horrible situation. | ||
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zeo
Serbia6306 Posts
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DickMcFanny
Ireland1076 Posts
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
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Grettin
42381 Posts
On June 12 2016 23:36 On_Slaught wrote: Meh, they said 50 casualties not 50 deaths. Wait.. now they are saying 50 deaths on top of 50 non-fatal casualties? What a mess. Horrible communication around a horrible situation. I read on twitter that the MAYOR said 50 deaths. | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada16998 Posts
On June 12 2016 23:24 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: Wish cable news would just die out already. No news just fear mongering. Duck and Cover. Fear mongering was omnipresent in broadcast tv long before cable tv was invented. Here is 1951 fear mongering. the problem of fear mongering is cultural and is not due to some "new" invention like Cable TV. it is an inherent cog in the machinery of US culture. | ||
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opisska
Poland8852 Posts
On June 12 2016 23:39 JimmyJRaynor wrote: Nothing is more dangerous than a broke and desperate government, when it comes to your money. And no government has ever owed more than America does today. How is that anyhow relevant? | ||
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SK.Testie
Canada11084 Posts
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On_Slaught
United States12190 Posts
Also, I'm still not sold on 50 deaths. The Police person said 50 casualties. The Mayor said 50 deaths. I can easily see how a civilian would hear 50 casualties and assume that means deaths and as a result give misinformation. Of course it is possible, but I'll wait for more confirmation than these two contradictory lines. | ||
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amazingxkcd
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
On June 12 2016 23:43 On_Slaught wrote: Seems like an epic police failure. What kind of Hostage Situation results in 50 deaths. Either they failed bad or Hostage Situation isn't exactly accurate. id wager it wasnt a hostage situation given the shooter's religion | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
wow | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada16998 Posts
Even with this violent act ... murders are way, way, way, way down in the USA. Reporting, fear mongering, hysteria are way, way up. In 1990... 3,000+ people were murdered in NYC. Sry guys, but this is child's play compared to late 80s and early 90s NYC. User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
On June 12 2016 23:43 On_Slaught wrote: Seems like an epic police failure. What kind of Hostage Situation results in 50 deaths. Either they failed bad or Hostage Situation isn't exactly accurate. Also, I'm still not sold on 50 deaths. The Police person said 50 casualties. The Mayor said 50 deaths. I can easily see how a civilian would hear 50 casualties and assume that means deaths and as a result give misinformation. Of course it is possible, but I'll wait for more confirmation than these two contradictory lines. An Assault Rifle does that. | ||
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zeo
Serbia6306 Posts
Especially in the only place guarantied to not have anyone with a concealed carry. Yeah, its confirmed the worst mass shooting in US history ![]() | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States45047 Posts
Every day we're saying R.I.P. now... | ||
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ForTehDarkseid
8139 Posts
On June 12 2016 22:55 maartendq wrote: And what makes LGBT people more special than other minority groups that the people who openly don't like LGBT deserve special, harsher punishment than if those people, say, openly don't like Asian people? It's ironic and slightly disturbing how in the US some liberal people seem to think that if people can't be convinced to be liberal the soft way, the state should just enforce it manu militari. For advocating tolerance, US liberals seem very intolerant of people who do not share their views. When animals misbehave, some measures must be issued. Last time I checked, racism didn't tie into religion or social propaganda nor does it really prevalent across the globe. Anti-nationalism is mostly entirely different thing. | ||
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