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Ion)Positive
Morocco1389 Posts
Oh, and also does anyone know/have a link of a graph? Like... 2.68 ghz = 3.06 ghz overcloaked ect. Would be nice. And anyone know if 3.06 would overcloak to 4.21? Ty. Also, any idea what the fine is if your caught? I know there is jail time for uncapping modems, so any idea if there might be jail time for overcloaking aswell? | ||
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Casper...
Liberia4948 Posts
make sure you close all the blinds and shades before you break the law! | ||
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PPV_Jimmy
United States641 Posts
Seems pretty risky to mess around with that if your computer is running at 2.68 GHz, are you not able to run any programs with that kind of speed? | ||
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rplant
United States1178 Posts
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mindspike
Canada1902 Posts
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Ion)Positive
Morocco1389 Posts
Anyways, its my friends that want it done, I already had a friend of mine (he's moved now) overclock mine.. And I am not sure what their processor speed is, I think its pretty low (like 800 mhz =\) Anyways, mine is 3.06 now. ^^ A tutorial would be nice, or a covertion chart. I will just buy a crappy 500-ish dollar computer and screw around with that until I get it, then try it out with a few different speeds and make a chart.^^ | ||
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Ceril
Sweden1343 Posts
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Waxangel
United States33360 Posts
On June 25 2003 16:30 Casper... wrote: i know a guy who got sent to jail for overclocking. make sure you close all the blinds and shades before you break the law! gay nazi moderators might ban you for disinformation T_T | ||
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Meat
Netherlands3751 Posts
You should overclock in little steps and watch the temperature of your processor very carefully. | ||
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MichaelReznor
United States63 Posts
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sata
Sweden127 Posts
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HovZ
United States1917 Posts
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Meat
Netherlands3751 Posts
There are many sites about it. | ||
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Ion)Positive
Morocco1389 Posts
 Not myself, but yeah thanks alot for the info meat and hovz.Personally I really wouldn't care much if I friend my cpu and motherboard.. But i'm sure my friends would be mad if I fried theirs. ^^ Meat, any links you have? And sorry Michael that I don't have perfect English. | ||
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MPXMX
Canada4309 Posts
Anyway, if what Casper says it's true, I think it's a retarded law. Afterall the processor is your property and you should be able to do whatever you want with it. It's like making taking out transistors out of your tv illegal. Or smashing your radio with a big hammer. I can do what I want with my stuff. I Worked for it! | ||
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iSuXOr
United States606 Posts
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Artenus
United States162 Posts
On June 26 2003 02:48 iSuXOr wrote: Overclocking isn't illegal, just retarded. you're retarded. | ||
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Ion)Positive
Morocco1389 Posts
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HovZ
United States1917 Posts
On June 26 2003 02:11 MPXMX wrote: I heard about some german guys overclocking a 3.0 ghz to 4.7 Anyway, if what Casper says it's true, I think it's a retarded law. Afterall the processor is your property and you should be able to do whatever you want with it. It's like making taking out transistors out of your tv illegal. Or smashing your radio with a big hammer. I can do what I want with my stuff. I Worked for it! they cooled the cpu with hydrogen, if u have an onhand supply of hydrogen u too can overclock your cpu to 4+ ghz(depending on your type of cpu of course). | ||
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Ion)Positive
Morocco1389 Posts
better then my peice of crap 3 | ||
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Zorglub
Denmark313 Posts
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Nevera
Finland677 Posts
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iSuXOr
United States606 Posts
To get a considerable gain out of a processor from overclocking you need to buy some pretty expensive cooling. In the past you could get a Celeron and double it's speed but this isn't the case anymore. It's not worth it and if you think so you can go ahead and waste your time, money and possibly some components. | ||
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Deleted User 3420
24492 Posts
Refrigeration is good too, but its expensive as hell. Do what I do if you really want to overclock. Get a big fan. Open your case. Put your computer right next to it. Overclock. I guarrantee it wont overheat unless you REALLY overclocked it. And you may be able to overclock in your cmos, but not all motherboards have that option. I guarrantee, however, that on the motherboard you would be able to set pins for clock/frequency. | ||
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Artenus
United States162 Posts
On June 26 2003 06:11 iSuXOr wrote: To get a considerable gain out of a processor from overclocking you need to buy some pretty expensive cooling. In the past you could get a Celeron and double it's speed but this isn't the case anymore. It's not worth it and if you think so you can go ahead and waste your time, money and possibly some components. uh huh...sure... how about dont buy p4s. athlonxp's are very ez(probably hard for you =P) to oc and it doesnt require expensive cooling. most people can oc around 300mhz(thats a lot of performance gain for an athlon) with air cooling. | ||
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Deleted User 3420
24492 Posts
no??? pretty much all athlon processors have a tendency to overheat more and more as they get older. I dont mean like 1-2 years older, i mean like half a year to a year older. The only thing athlon processors have over pentium processors is that they are cheaper, and in todays processor market(processor power increasing so fucking fast) buying something that is cheaper but maybe not as high of quality is a good idea. | ||
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sloppy
United States27 Posts
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Deleted User 3420
24492 Posts
but its very possible with alienware. in fact im gonna find out! | ||
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Artenus
United States162 Posts
On June 26 2003 07:27 travis wrote: what??? no??? pretty much all athlon processors have a tendency to overheat more and more as they get older. I dont mean like 1-2 years older, i mean like half a year to a year older. The only thing athlon processors have over pentium processors is that they are cheaper, and in todays processor market(processor power increasing so fucking fast) buying something that is cheaper but maybe not as high of quality is a good idea. they overheat because people use shitty cases and bad cooling(generic fans) i have an athlon 1.4@1.7 using air cooling w/ a temp of 30c. the new athlonxps are even better for overclocking | ||
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Deleted User 3420
24492 Posts
thats INSANE for an overclocked processor. What kind of fan do you have? | ||
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Artenus
United States162 Posts
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PheaRSome
United States584 Posts
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Deleted User 3420
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baal
10541 Posts
if you wish to overcloack to 4+ghz you will need a water coolant system that will be more expensive than the new AMD 4+ processor, so... overcloack isnt as great as you might think. | ||
Klogon
MURICA15980 Posts
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HovZ
United States1917 Posts
oh nevera, what cooling system does your friend use? | ||
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Nevera
Finland677 Posts
 My very own palonimo goes with air only 50mhz more than stock so I don't even bother thinking about overclocking untill I get entirely new system sometime in the future. The newer athlons ( the 2100+ is famous for this) may overclock allmost as nicely as p4's. For the thread starter: http://www.overclockers.com/ I am not into overclocking so much so I dunno what are the best sites but try that. With your 3.06 you should expect something like... umm 3.5 or so? | ||
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Meat
Netherlands3751 Posts
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esk0
Sweden1393 Posts
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TeRRaN)UsEr
Australia55 Posts
I'll explain it all - lots of the information here is sheer bullshit. Cheers! | ||
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deTwisj
Netherlands288 Posts
kdawg'ed (sorry some ppl will understand ) | ||
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HovZ
United States1917 Posts
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schooled
Canada46 Posts
 at idle, but if i start running 3d mark it goes up to 50. When its not overclocked it runs at 33 idle, and 36 under full load. So ya, when your overclocking, its not just your processor that your overclocking, its your ram and sometimes mother board that matter the most.if u dontr know what your doingt dont get into over clocking, you will fry your cpu and your motherboard - Hovz ^ No shit, maybe your going to tell us your white next time to. | ||
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HovZ
United States1917 Posts
also OC'ing an 1800+ to 2300 mhz is a lot more then 500, here again u prove your ignorance, cuz the 1800 isnt the spec of thwe MHZ, its the comparable performance of the pentium 4 at 1800 mhz, an 1800+ runs somewhere around 1600, maybe a bit less so your telling us your OCing an athlon processor by 700+ MHZ with stock cooling? sure kid | ||
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ObsoleteLogic
United States3676 Posts
I don't bother with it because it takes a lot more patience/effort than I have. My AMD XP 2000+ 1.7 is good enough, considering that I don't run anything more intensive than Bryce 5. | ||
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Artenus
United States162 Posts
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HovZ
United States1917 Posts
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Ion)Positive
Morocco1389 Posts
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Artenus
United States162 Posts
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HovZ
United States1917 Posts
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schooled
Canada46 Posts
. My processor is usually 40 overcloeked at 2000 mhz (500mhz overclock at idle, but if i start running 3d mark it goes up to 50. 2000 MHZ - 1500 MHZ = 500 MHZ. Its called math, they learn it in a place called school you fucking idiot. And if you KNEW anything, you would know that overclocking your mulitplier and your FSB is different. FSB affects ram and cpu, multiplier doesnt. Your actually the most retarded son of a bitch I have ever met, like actually. | ||
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schooled
Canada46 Posts
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mindspike
Canada1902 Posts
At most u get 15% boost and in 6 months there will be a new processor with 50% more power at the same cost. | ||
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Artenus
United States162 Posts
On June 27 2003 00:41 HovZ wrote: for 50 bucks u wont get anything other then a low speed budget chip(which u can then fry trying to OC again) like i said...the chance of frying your cpu is very low. just make sure the cpu temp doesnt get over 45c and it will be fine. seriously...stop posting bs and misconceptions. | ||
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Artenus
United States162 Posts
On June 27 2003 06:05 mindspike wrote: Overclocking is fine but theres very little performance increase At most u get 15% boost and in 6 months there will be a new processor with 50% more power at the same cost. it varies. some application will benefit a lot from faster cpu. besides whos going upgrade a comp every 6months... gets really expensive and its hard to keep up(unless youre rich) | ||
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HovZ
United States1917 Posts
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iSuXOr
United States606 Posts
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Klogon
MURICA15980 Posts
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Artenus
United States162 Posts
On June 27 2003 07:46 HovZ wrote: schooled are u an idiot? U DONT OC A MULTIPLIER, A MULTIPLIER IS THE RATE AT WHICH THE FSB IS MULTIPLIED TO ACHIEVE THE CPU SPEED, SO IF THE MULTIPLIER ISNT RELATED TO THE CPU, WHAT IS IT RELATED TO? AND U SAID U GOT UR ATHLON TO 2300 MHZ WITH STOCK COOLING, LIE MORE PLZ u overclock BY CHANGING(PLZ READ CAREFULLY) the multiplier not oc!!!...sigh...and WHEN DID I POST I GOT MY ATHLON TO 2300 MHZ WITH STOCK COOLING??? LEARN TO READ??? | ||
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Artenus
United States162 Posts
On June 27 2003 07:58 iSuXOr wrote: Artenus, how about instead of having a 1.4 and spending $40 on a heatsink and fan for a marginal increase in speed you just buy a 1700+ since it's about the same price. Overclocking just isn't worth it and it's stupid in almost every situation. You either don't get a big increase in performance and possibly lose stability. Or you pay the equivalent of just buying a better processor for some cooling. Overclocking is NOT worth it and only a retard would think the pros outweigh the cons... DID READY WHAT I WROTE??? I SAID SOME CPUS ARE UNDERCLOCKED. SO ITS POSSIBLE TO GET YOUR CPU UP TO HIGHER CLOCK WITHOUT USING TOP OF THE LINE HEATSINKS. AND WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU TRYING TO SHOW WITH 1.4 AND 1700+? YOURE SEEMED CONFUSED ABOUT THE RATING SYSTEM. AND LIKE I SAID EARLIER... OVERCLOCKING CAN BE VERY GOOD SOMETIMES BUT NOT ALL THE TIME. SOMETIMES ITS POSSIBLE TO GET AN HUGE PERFORMANCE GAIN WHILE LOSING NO STABILITY. ILL STOP POSTING ABOUT THIS NOW. IF YOU GUYS THINK ITS RETARDED THEN SO BE IT. ITS YOUR LOSS NOT MINE, SO I DO NOT GIVE A SHIT. JUST STOP TRYING TO CONFUSE OTHERS BY POSTING BS. | ||
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HovZ
United States1917 Posts
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mindspike
Canada1902 Posts
If you overclock a athlon 2000+ (cdn $102) to a 2500+ (cdn $151) you are increasing the value of your cpu by $49. That is a pretty good overclock but it will cost you alot of time to properly stress test the system and maybe even require a more expensive heatsink/fan. The overclocking process is fairly easy but there may also be decreased stability. Now it is up to the user to determine whether or not it is worth it... A $49 increase in value isn't worth a HUGE discussion unless you think of overclocking as some kind of learning experience... | ||
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