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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46156 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-09 19:13:32
April 09 2016 19:12 GMT
#41
On April 10 2016 04:06 ZAiNs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2016 03:40 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On April 10 2016 03:11 calippo wrote:
haha signing a player that got busted for matchfixing in CS:GO, way to go Liquid.


TL has signed on players in the past, despite slight controversies; they reformed and became respectable players once more. Even in StarCraft 2...

When have they ever signed a player that has done anything close to matchfixing?


For example, Haypro was caught hacking in SC1, yet the community got over it and trusted him as he joined TL's SC2 team. Very similar to how this CS:GO cheater will hopefully be eventually accepted into Overwatch, because TL is vetting him.

I'm fine with trusting TL and seeing how things play out.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
April 09 2016 19:18 GMT
#42
Should be interesting - good luck!

On April 10 2016 03:41 ZeromuS wrote:
If any org is gonna understand matchfixing its TL. Remember, TL as a community and Nazgul have been around for a very very long time and know well the impact of matchfixing.


And this. We'll see how it plays out.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
wooozy
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3813 Posts
April 09 2016 19:20 GMT
#43
holy shit dahang!
hexhaven
Profile Joined July 2014
Finland964 Posts
April 09 2016 19:21 GMT
#44
Overwatch section for the forums?

Grats on the new team. It's a fun, refreshing shooter.
WriterI shoot events. | http://www.jussi.co/esports
ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-09 19:31:50
April 09 2016 19:24 GMT
#45
On April 10 2016 04:12 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2016 04:06 ZAiNs wrote:
On April 10 2016 03:40 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On April 10 2016 03:11 calippo wrote:
haha signing a player that got busted for matchfixing in CS:GO, way to go Liquid.


TL has signed on players in the past, despite slight controversies; they reformed and became respectable players once more. Even in StarCraft 2...

When have they ever signed a player that has done anything close to matchfixing?


For example, Haypro was caught hacking in SC1, yet the community got over it and trusted him as he joined TL's SC2 team. Very similar to how this CS:GO cheater will hopefully be eventually accepted into Overwatch, because TL is vetting him.

I'm fine with trusting TL and seeing how things play out.

The Haypro thing was apparently an accident, and even if it wasn't, it was nowhere near matchfixing, and generally it always felt like Liquid wanted to stay away from controversial players.

Waxangel's opinions are his own and not representative of Liquid's, but in the thread about Kespa possibly persuing legal action against the PRIME matchfixers, he said:

"The fact that [Savior is] very publicly streaming and getting along relatively fine (at least from the outside) sets an awful example."

I feel like this is another bad example.
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
April 09 2016 19:42 GMT
#46
rehabilitation, not condemnation

still, i'm a bit wary. he seemed really remorseful when i talked to him, but he will have to earn my trust.
AdministratorYOU MUST HEED MY INSTRUCTIONS TAKE OFF YOUR THIIIINGS
bertolo
Profile Joined June 2010
United States133 Posts
April 09 2016 19:54 GMT
#47
On April 10 2016 02:54 suicideyear wrote:
i have some reservations about people hyping up a comp scene for a game that's still a month away from being released to the public, but that's cool i guess


So much this. I think this game needs time in the public before anything and even then I don't see it as a very entertaining nor fun e-sports game to watch.

What do people find they like watching about it?
Andre
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Slovenia3523 Posts
April 09 2016 20:04 GMT
#48
Damn didn't realize Dahang plays overwatch. He really was sick in quake. Is the movement anything like in quake? can you strafejump?
You must gather your party before venturing forth.
-NegativeZero-
Profile Joined August 2011
United States2142 Posts
April 09 2016 20:17 GMT
#49
not every game should be forced into esports
vibeo gane,
BlacKcuD
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany107 Posts
April 09 2016 20:20 GMT
#50
Awesomesauce!
Avid map maker and e-sport enthusiast.
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-09 20:25:37
April 09 2016 20:25 GMT
#51
Onlywatch

hard to be excited for this when ya cant even play
:)
Rollora
Profile Joined February 2012
2450 Posts
April 09 2016 20:37 GMT
#52
On April 10 2016 01:27 Ansibled wrote:
I'm not really a fan of picking up a player who got permanently banned for matchfixing...

While I agree, I also think ppl can change. Besides he will get looked at with special causion.
Thax
Profile Joined July 2014
Belgium1060 Posts
April 09 2016 20:41 GMT
#53
On April 10 2016 05:17 -NegativeZero- wrote:
not every game should be forced into esports

...
Overwatch is designed from the grounds up to be an esport.
One I'm actually looking forward too. With this line-up it won't be Liquid I'll be rooting for unfortunately.
DSK
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
England1110 Posts
April 09 2016 20:42 GMT
#54
Yaaaaaay DaHaNG! Quake represent!
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deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
April 09 2016 20:49 GMT
#55
Only heard of AZK from the matchfixing thing and Dummy from NotEnigma back in the old beta. Still, it'll be interesting to see how they do. The scene is raw and the game isn't even finished yet, so the roster's probably going to fluctuate wildly. Still, will be interesting to see what happens.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44280 Posts
April 09 2016 20:53 GMT
#56
Oh we have a Blizzard TF2 team
this is a quote
DMXD
Profile Joined February 2008
United States4064 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-09 21:22:49
April 09 2016 21:16 GMT
#57
Still not sold on overwatch as an esports but Blizzard have done a great job balancing the heroes. A Month ago, you would see pro teams running the same comp like two Winston,reapers,tracer, genji or zen. But lately, I have been seeing diverse comps from pro teams. Spectator mode is still pretty iffy thought.....
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10339 Posts
April 09 2016 21:16 GMT
#58
Savior matchfixes, has his name stricken from the records, championships removed, almost universally hated on TL.

Add matchfixer to Liquid` roster.

Word.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17682 Posts
April 09 2016 21:17 GMT
#59
will there be an entire section devoted to Overwatch? or just 1 thread?
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
esdf
Profile Joined December 2012
Croatia736 Posts
April 09 2016 21:27 GMT
#60
wow, dahang in TL. $$$$$$
why do you not believe it? the legend has alived!
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