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Orcasgt24
Canada3238 Posts
On November 14 2015 10:00 Makro wrote: the french government is weak, saying before that we had to live with terrorism .. Cherry picking a quote without the rest of the statement eh. I can't find the exact quote but the statement is more along the lines of retaliating against the attacks and having to live with the consequences at home. | ||
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DickMcFanny
Ireland1076 Posts
On November 14 2015 10:00 ref4 wrote: why are mass violence in Europe like this concentrated in France? eh barring like that crazy Norway Anderson guy and like that one dude that tried to behead a police in Britain Because Paris has the biggest Muslim population outside of London, and England is such a complete police state that it could never happen there. | ||
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Reaps
United Kingdom1280 Posts
On November 14 2015 10:00 ref4 wrote: why are mass violence in Europe like this concentrated in France? eh barring like that crazy Norway Anderson guy and like that one dude that tried to behead a police in Britain Maybe because of security failures? I don't know, I just know that Britain has stopped a large amount of terrorists attacks since the London bombings. I think its unfair to say its a "issue" within France itself, terrorists will attack any country they can given the chance. | ||
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KingofdaHipHop
United States25602 Posts
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oBlade
United States5907 Posts
On November 14 2015 10:00 ref4 wrote: why are mass violence in Europe like this concentrated in France? eh barring like that crazy Norway Anderson guy and like that one dude that tried to behead a police in Britain Attacks with 3 digits casualties aren't really "concentrated" anywhere, I think. | ||
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m4ini
4215 Posts
On November 14 2015 10:02 DeepElemBlues wrote: How many countries did nazis conquer after hitler died. How many neo naziurders have there been since 1945. A lot less than were killed in Paris today. When the west was fighting Islamic terrorists with ground troops in Islamic countries there were two large scale terror attacks in the west: the London and Madrid bombings. Two in fifteen years. Western countries leave because they fought those wars stupidly and now theres been two possibly three in about a year. The west cannot allow this safe haven to exist in Syria and Iraq. It would take a huge army years to do it so it's almost certainly not gonna happen. But saying getting more serious about fighting Islamic state wouldn't have stopped this attack ignores the danger of waging a halfassed aerial campaign against them that has not done much of anything to their safe haven or their ability to fundraise, recruit, get supplies and carry out attacks. I never said IS shouldn't be fought. I said your solution is unrealistic, to say the nice thing. In fact, your solution will provoke alot more of what happened tonight. You're not up against a country. You're up against a worldview. That's something that can be bred in any country, even without ISIS doing it actively. | ||
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Clonester
Germany2808 Posts
On November 14 2015 10:03 Ghanburighan wrote: A bit of perspective: - claiming ISIS works for Saudi Arabia is insane, considering that the Saudis bomb them on a daily basis. I don't understand where people would even find this nonsense. There might be some rogue elements in Saudi Arabia funding them, but that's a very different thing. - Obama didn't blame anyone just like Merkel, Putin, Stoltenberg, etc. didn't blame anyone. People are legitimately worried, though, that Obama will fumble this response like he did the one to Charlie Hebdo where he nor Biden showed up to the memorial service alongside pretty much every other Western head of state, and they instead sent what's-his-ambassador Taylor. The last bombing from Saudi Arabia on IS was in September. As all Gulf States, they completly stoped it since the Yemen thing got not only hot, but also the Saudi Arabian Offensive stuck in Yemen and after 6 month of intervention, they couldnt take the main city Sana as also the third largest one. They could only win the battle of Aden. It is not Saudi Arabia (or other Gulf states), who fund IS. But individual persons in Saudi Arabia spend money in IS and other terrorist organisations in Syria. | ||
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ahswtini
Northern Ireland22212 Posts
On November 14 2015 10:04 Reaps wrote: Maybe because of security failures? I don't know, I just know that Britain has stopped a large amount of terrorists attacks since the London bombings. I think its unfair to say its a "issue" within France itself, terrorists will attack any country they can given the chance. a lot of foiled plots go unreported. the spooks almost always know of the people involved, they just cant act | ||
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fezvez
France3021 Posts
Shit. I know people there... Time to make some phone calls | ||
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m4ini
4215 Posts
On November 14 2015 10:09 fezvez wrote: Wow. Shit. I know people there... Time to make some phone calls Apparently, Facebook helped to see if friends are fine. Otherwise i hope the phone lines are working again. | ||
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
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SagaZ
France3460 Posts
But this is so depressing how fucking hard is it to live on this planet without killing each others?? | ||
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Spaylz
Japan1743 Posts
I hope they kill all of them. | ||
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oBlade
United States5907 Posts
On November 14 2015 10:15 SagaZ wrote: At least family and friends are safe... But this is so depressing how fucking hard is it to live on this planet without killing each others?? Killing unarmed, innocent people for your political goals will only ever put those goals further out of reach and serve to erase yourself from history. | ||
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DickMcFanny
Ireland1076 Posts
On November 14 2015 10:16 Spaylz wrote: Frenchie currently living in Australia. Hear this as I wake up. My day is ruined. I hope they kill all of them. You can't kill Islam. User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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Boucot
France15997 Posts
On November 14 2015 10:16 Spaylz wrote: Frenchie currently living in Australia. Hear this as I wake up. My day is ruined. I hope they kill all of them. Catching some of them alive would be more useful. The more infos you get, the better. | ||
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Doublemint
Austria8709 Posts
really? . . . | ||
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Nebuchad
Switzerland12399 Posts
Don't worry, he's just being "politically incorrect" | ||
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SK.Testie
Canada11084 Posts
Islam will die, but all religions should die. They are outdated and foolish beyond reasonable belief. | ||
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