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Keep the discussion ON TOPIC. This thread is for discussing the terror attacks in Paris. |
On November 14 2015 08:34 Makro wrote:
if journalist and media could stop tweeting and informing what the police is doing, it would be really great
The worst thing is, it happens over, and over, and over again. I respect (good) journalists for the job they're doing, but have some common sense. Don't show police storming - that happened in germany 30 years ago already.
Fucking learn from it.
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Seven places have been attacked tonight.
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On November 14 2015 08:30 Djzapz wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2015 08:23 Erasme wrote:On November 14 2015 08:21 Djzapz wrote:On November 14 2015 08:20 Erasme wrote:im sorry guys ahah i clearly overreacted see i fixed it teehee  Do you think this is a reasonable reaction to tens of deaths? I already sent messages to my friends who heard gunshots right down their houses thanks internet warrior clueless of economy and politics I know a lot about those topics, I teach one of them in a university and I'm decently versed in the other... I'm just not fond of "Merkel is responsible of this" with no context, no explanation, a very absolute statement too which shows a lack of actual understanding of the issues. Anyone with half a brain would be skeptical of the BS spouted by someone like you - single-cause explanation of a complicated issue. Good to hear that you've sent messages though.
Anyone with half a brain wouldn't need explainations on those statements. Or do you, as a teacher, believe that the German model work ? Or that Merkel and the rest of the EU didn't go overboard with their promises on the syrian crisis ?
The answer can be simplified by : No it doesn't work, yes they did go overboard. The world is in an economic crisis right now, do you think that countries like France, Spain, Italy with a weakened economy can take tens thousands of refugees ?
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Can someone tell me where the translate button on twitter is? I know there's supposed to be one, i'm just too dumb to find it.
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How come I see more Obama than Hollande in the news lol
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Seems like police is raiding the Bataclan
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Yeah, i am quite confused what any of this has to do with refugees. As far as i know in this case it isn't clear yet, but usually these things tend to be done by people of the nation they blow up. I fully expect it to turn out that the terrorists are french, and not some people who snuck into france through german refugee camps.
I am also ashamed to see terrorists so obviously succeeding in breeding mistrusts and xenophobia in western society. We should be better than this, but it seems that increasingly every time something happens the "all muslims are backwards barbarians" fraction gets louder and louder.
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On November 14 2015 08:37 Sent. wrote:
How come I see more Obama than Hollande in the news lol
cause this guy is probably under a lot of pressure right now and has to make decisions, why would he be on the media right now? nothing is solved yet and nothing is clear yet
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On November 14 2015 08:37 Sent. wrote:
How come I see more Obama than Hollande in the news lol
he hasnt been in the news since the white house press conference no?
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when i tell you this is a warzone now
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On November 14 2015 08:37 Sent. wrote:
How come I see more Obama than Hollande in the news lol
Because Holland is probably busy trying to make decisions or doing stuff right now, whereas Obama is only busy at filling his mouth with kind words.
On November 14 2015 08:38 Simberto wrote:
I am also ashamed to see terrorists so obviously succeeding in breeding mistrusts and xenophobia in western society. We should be better than this, but it seems that increasingly every time something happens the "all muslims are backwards barbarians" fraction gets louder and louder.
Really? So you don't see any problem with Islam in Europe right now? Jesus Christ, I swear to God that people like you talk only to feel good about themselves.
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On November 14 2015 08:37 m4ini wrote:
Can someone tell me where the translate button on twitter is? I know there's supposed to be one, i'm just too dumb to find it.
I have a translator plugin installed in my browser, don't know which browser you use but they can auto translate any page into English and keep the format. Very useful.
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Not concrete evidence yet but from the AFP
"Attacker in Paris concert hall shouted 'Allahu akbar', fired into crowd, witness says"
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Don't know if it was said: we should be happy that the football game wasn't interrupted - according to Noël Le Graët (french soccer chief guy), one explosion was on Exit J of the stadium, three dead.
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United States43617 Posts
On November 14 2015 08:36 crms wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2015 08:34 KwarK wrote:On November 14 2015 08:31 crms wrote:On November 14 2015 08:27 KwarK wrote:On November 14 2015 08:22 Maluk wrote:On November 14 2015 08:16 KwarK wrote:
Is the difference between English and Nirish so much greater than that between French and Syrian?. What. My point was that people are people everywhere. That was essentially what I was getting at. That the only real difference between a Syrian infant and a French infant is geography. Infants aren't yet indoctrinated into barbaric, backwards, belief systems. And neither is every Syrian. Of course not, but you're being intellectually dishonest with your infant analogy as it pertains to the immigration issue overall.
My original argument was with a Northern Irish person who was claiming that one group of people have no obligation to assist another group of people if the price is the risk of terrorism. I found this particularly striking given the history of the English enduring and fighting terrorism on behalf of the Northern Irish. When I explained this to him he went with "that's different though". My point with him was that the Syrians may be a different people but differences sure as hell didn't matter to him back when it was his homeland in danger and he needed the help of the English. He was happy enough to focus on what he had in common with the English and the English, for their part, did the right thing in standing up to the terrorism of the IRA.
Now I'm no longer arguing directly with him we're a long way past relevance but my core point was that whenever you do the right thing people who disagree with it are going to be cunts. That doesn't make the right thing less worth doing.
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On November 14 2015 08:37 m4ini wrote:
Can someone tell me where the translate button on twitter is? I know there's supposed to be one, i'm just too dumb to find it.
If you don't find a solution post the stuff you want to translate here
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On November 14 2015 08:37 m4ini wrote:
Can someone tell me where the translate button on twitter is? I know there's supposed to be one, i'm just too dumb to find it.
I believe Chrome has a feature built-in if you are on that browser.
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On November 14 2015 08:36 Erasme wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2015 08:30 Djzapz wrote:On November 14 2015 08:23 Erasme wrote:On November 14 2015 08:21 Djzapz wrote:On November 14 2015 08:20 Erasme wrote:im sorry guys ahah i clearly overreacted see i fixed it teehee Do you think this is a reasonable reaction to tens of deaths? I already sent messages to my friends who heard gunshots right down their houses thanks internet warrior clueless of economy and politics I know a lot about those topics, I teach one of them in a university and I'm decently versed in the other... I'm just not fond of "Merkel is responsible of this" with no context, no explanation, a very absolute statement too which shows a lack of actual understanding of the issues. Anyone with half a brain would be skeptical of the BS spouted by someone like you - single-cause explanation of a complicated issue. Good to hear that you've sent messages though. Anyone with half a brain wouldn't need explainations on those statements. Or do you, as a teacher, believe that the German model work ? Or that Merkel and the rest of the EU didn't go overboard with their promises on the syrian crisis ? The answer can be simplified by : No it doesn't work, yes they did go overboard. The world is in an economic crisis right now, do you think that countries like France, Spain, Italy with a weakened economy can take tens thousands of refugees ?
Those are all questions which could be handled in hundreds of pages and the general population have a very basic understanding of them and their implications. To say "merkel" is responsible for this is extremely reductive. Now, I'll admit that I'm not an expert on this topic, but I don't need to be an expect to point out that the point you made is outright bad.
If you think Merkel's policies played a role in this (or is ENTIRELY responsible for this, as you suggested before), then explain why. I can't stand these kinds of assertions, never assume that people know what you mean. We live in a world where people have agendas. Most people who blame Hollande for this, most people who blame Merkel for this, they're just angry assholes who don't understand shit. If you think you're anything more than an angry asshole with a beef against a politician in particular, prove it by explaining your ideas.
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On November 14 2015 08:38 Undead1993 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2015 08:37 Sent. wrote:
How come I see more Obama than Hollande in the news lol cause this guy is probably under a lot of pressure right now and has to make decisions, why would he be on the media right now? nothing is solved yet and nothing is clear yet I believe he's in an emergency meeting since 0:00. I can't imagine there not being a statement when they're finished.
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Northern Ireland22212 Posts
On November 14 2015 08:38 Simberto wrote:
Yeah, i am quite confused what any of this has to do with refugees. As far as i know in this case it isn't clear yet, but usually these things tend to be done by people of the nation they blow up. I fully expect it to turn out that the terrorists are french, and not some people who snuck into france through german refugee camps.
I am also ashamed to see terrorists so obviously succeeding in breeding mistrusts and xenophobia in western society. We should be better than this, but it seems that increasingly every time something happens the "all muslims are backwards barbarians" fraction gets louder and louder.
because daesh militants are known to have entered europe via the migrant flood, the perpetrators of this attack may not have entered this way, but ur blissfully ignorant if u think the uncontrolled entry of migrant into schengen wont have greater repercussions down the road
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