this is fucking stupid
I want to know whats happening.
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Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
this is fucking stupid I want to know whats happening. | ||
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Undead1993
Germany17651 Posts
and once again it's france. sad. my condolences ![]() | ||
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Makro
France16890 Posts
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zeo
Serbia6336 Posts
On November 14 2015 08:22 KwarK wrote: Show nested quote + On November 14 2015 08:19 Rocket-Bear wrote: On November 14 2015 08:16 KwarK wrote: On November 14 2015 08:11 ahswtini wrote: On November 14 2015 08:09 KwarK wrote: On November 14 2015 08:07 ahswtini wrote: On November 14 2015 08:06 KwarK wrote: On November 14 2015 08:04 ahswtini wrote: On November 14 2015 08:03 KwarK wrote: On November 14 2015 08:00 DeepElemBlues wrote: [quote] Twice in the last few months suspected ISIS members have been arrested trying to enter Europe posing as refugees. I'm not sure what your point is. There are an awful lot of refugees, it's a huge humanitarian crisis, two incidents doesn't disqualify them from needing help. And surely if we can help the refugees while arresting ISIS members that's a good thing. If you've got any suggestions for solving the refugee crisis while also solving the ISIS problem I will happily hear them though. how about looking after our own first? shit sucks, u cant help everyone in the world, but ultimately france should put the safety of its own people first You a Loyalist by any chance? i'm a realist Do you remember that time the English decided the IRA were too much effort and left the Nirish on their own? I don't. I recall terrorism being accepted as the price of a necessary fight to protect the rights of the people. how is this relevant? northern ireland = part of the uk. the people of northern ireland are british. of course the british government can't abandon them. how is this related to european countries being obliged to help refugees at the expense of their own security? We're all people. The difference between English and Nirish is not so much less than between French and Syrian. Are you actually serious? There are bigger core value differences. And you know the part that Syria is a muslim country And for being a "religion of peace" they sure tend to end up in a lot of wars I didn't mean in terms of core values or culture although it is interesting to note that a large number of people in Northern Ireland were passionately anti English to the point of bombings and so forth and were also very passionately of a different religion to the English majority. But I was more talking in terms of "people are people everywhere". Christians seem to get into a fair few wars too. Do we have an atheist control group to check if it's not just a thing that people do? Atheist control groups are called communists, I'm sure atheists have caused a fair few more deaths then religious people over the last century. | ||
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Thetwinmasters
3578 Posts
On November 14 2015 08:25 Kipsate wrote: can someone mod this thread this is fucking stupid I want to know whats happening. https://www.reddit.com/live/vwwnkuplwr9y http://www.france24.com/en/livefeed/ | ||
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oBlade
United States5907 Posts
On November 14 2015 08:25 Kipsate wrote: can someone mod this thread this is fucking stupid I want to know whats happening. I don't think anyone knows what's happening. | ||
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Yorbon
Netherlands4272 Posts
On November 14 2015 08:25 Plansix wrote: Show nested quote + On November 14 2015 08:23 zeo wrote: On November 14 2015 08:21 Plansix wrote: Apparently, police are urging people to stop sharing information via social media because the shooters likely have access to it. Specifically photos of the scene and police. I highly doubt the shooters are sitting around on their mobiles checking whats new on twitter I doubt it too, but they could be working with people who are at a computer and talking to them. They just don't want to run the risk. And I can't really disagree with that. | ||
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m4ini
4215 Posts
On November 14 2015 08:25 Kipsate wrote: can someone mod this thread this is fucking stupid I want to know whats happening. Watching actual news could help alot, instead of reading some internet forum. Sky News: 5 explosions near the bataclava and automatic gunfire. | ||
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OtherWorld
France17333 Posts
On November 14 2015 08:25 Makro wrote: the last time the state of emergency on the whole france has been activated was during the war of algeria To be fair though SoE on the whole territory is not necessary right now. There are no declared threats in not-Paris | ||
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KwarK
United States43617 Posts
On November 14 2015 08:22 Maluk wrote: Show nested quote + On November 14 2015 08:16 KwarK wrote: Is the difference between English and Nirish so much greater than that between French and Syrian?. What. My point was that people are people everywhere. That was essentially what I was getting at. That the only real difference between a Syrian infant and a French infant is geography. But if we really want to get into this I suspect that if you asked people about hatred of a specific hatred of a specific country you'd find far more people in Northern Ireland who hate England than you would in Syria who hate France. Additionally the French took over and settled Syria around the same time the English did Ireland, there's French blood in Syrian veins. Terrorism isn't new to Europe. It was a fact of life in England for decades. We endured because it was a price that was worth paying. | ||
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Reaps
United Kingdom1280 Posts
On November 14 2015 08:25 zeo wrote: Show nested quote + On November 14 2015 08:22 KwarK wrote: On November 14 2015 08:19 Rocket-Bear wrote: On November 14 2015 08:16 KwarK wrote: On November 14 2015 08:11 ahswtini wrote: On November 14 2015 08:09 KwarK wrote: On November 14 2015 08:07 ahswtini wrote: On November 14 2015 08:06 KwarK wrote: On November 14 2015 08:04 ahswtini wrote: On November 14 2015 08:03 KwarK wrote: [quote] I'm not sure what your point is. There are an awful lot of refugees, it's a huge humanitarian crisis, two incidents doesn't disqualify them from needing help. And surely if we can help the refugees while arresting ISIS members that's a good thing. If you've got any suggestions for solving the refugee crisis while also solving the ISIS problem I will happily hear them though. how about looking after our own first? shit sucks, u cant help everyone in the world, but ultimately france should put the safety of its own people first You a Loyalist by any chance? i'm a realist Do you remember that time the English decided the IRA were too much effort and left the Nirish on their own? I don't. I recall terrorism being accepted as the price of a necessary fight to protect the rights of the people. how is this relevant? northern ireland = part of the uk. the people of northern ireland are british. of course the british government can't abandon them. how is this related to european countries being obliged to help refugees at the expense of their own security? We're all people. The difference between English and Nirish is not so much less than between French and Syrian. Are you actually serious? There are bigger core value differences. And you know the part that Syria is a muslim country And for being a "religion of peace" they sure tend to end up in a lot of wars I didn't mean in terms of core values or culture although it is interesting to note that a large number of people in Northern Ireland were passionately anti English to the point of bombings and so forth and were also very passionately of a different religion to the English majority. But I was more talking in terms of "people are people everywhere". Christians seem to get into a fair few wars too. Do we have an atheist control group to check if it's not just a thing that people do? Atheist control groups are called communists, I'm sure atheists have caused a fair few more deaths then religious people over the last century. Holy shit, please tell me you're drunk. | ||
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Rocket-Bear
3070 Posts
On November 14 2015 08:22 KwarK wrote: Show nested quote + On November 14 2015 08:19 Rocket-Bear wrote: On November 14 2015 08:16 KwarK wrote: On November 14 2015 08:11 ahswtini wrote: On November 14 2015 08:09 KwarK wrote: On November 14 2015 08:07 ahswtini wrote: On November 14 2015 08:06 KwarK wrote: On November 14 2015 08:04 ahswtini wrote: On November 14 2015 08:03 KwarK wrote: On November 14 2015 08:00 DeepElemBlues wrote: [quote] Twice in the last few months suspected ISIS members have been arrested trying to enter Europe posing as refugees. I'm not sure what your point is. There are an awful lot of refugees, it's a huge humanitarian crisis, two incidents doesn't disqualify them from needing help. And surely if we can help the refugees while arresting ISIS members that's a good thing. If you've got any suggestions for solving the refugee crisis while also solving the ISIS problem I will happily hear them though. how about looking after our own first? shit sucks, u cant help everyone in the world, but ultimately france should put the safety of its own people first You a Loyalist by any chance? i'm a realist Do you remember that time the English decided the IRA were too much effort and left the Nirish on their own? I don't. I recall terrorism being accepted as the price of a necessary fight to protect the rights of the people. how is this relevant? northern ireland = part of the uk. the people of northern ireland are british. of course the british government can't abandon them. how is this related to european countries being obliged to help refugees at the expense of their own security? We're all people. The difference between English and Nirish is not so much less than between French and Syrian. Are you actually serious? There are bigger core value differences. And you know the part that Syria is a muslim country And for being a "religion of peace" they sure tend to end up in a lot of wars I didn't mean in terms of core values or culture although it is interesting to note that a large number of people in Northern Ireland were passionately anti English to the point of bombings and so forth and were also very passionately of a different religion to the English majority. But I was more talking in terms of "people are people everywhere". Christians seem to get into a fair few wars too. Do we have an atheist control group to check if it's not just a thing that people do? Christians doesn't flee into the middle east. You think they would accept us as refugees the same way? This is like my last attempt but: Irish and British shares very same core values. Just like Swedes and Norweigans Spanish and Portugese people etc If Norweigans fled to Sweden we would have no problem integrating them. If British people fled to Sweden we would have it slightly more difficult but they still share the Western values. But Syrians have a complete different way of society. They don't have the same type of welfare system we have built up here. Integrating them is a lot more difficult. Yes people are people but GROUPS of people are more similar to other GROUPS of people. | ||
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ahswtini
Northern Ireland22212 Posts
On November 14 2015 08:24 KwarK wrote: Show nested quote + On November 14 2015 08:20 ahswtini wrote: On November 14 2015 08:19 KwarK wrote: On November 14 2015 08:18 ahswtini wrote: On November 14 2015 08:16 KwarK wrote: On November 14 2015 08:11 ahswtini wrote: On November 14 2015 08:09 KwarK wrote: On November 14 2015 08:07 ahswtini wrote: On November 14 2015 08:06 KwarK wrote: On November 14 2015 08:04 ahswtini wrote: [quote] how about looking after our own first? shit sucks, u cant help everyone in the world, but ultimately france should put the safety of its own people first You a Loyalist by any chance? i'm a realist Do you remember that time the English decided the IRA were too much effort and left the Nirish on their own? I don't. I recall terrorism being accepted as the price of a necessary fight to protect the rights of the people. how is this relevant? northern ireland = part of the uk. the people of northern ireland are british. of course the british government can't abandon them. how is this related to european countries being obliged to help refugees at the expense of their own security? Is the difference between English and Nirish so much greater than that between French and Syrian? yeah im done, i can't respect what ur saying at all I feel no more kinship with the Nirish as I do with any other human and I understand less of what they're saying. The obligation to help other human beings and to stand up to terrorism has nothing to do with national borders and everything to do with our common humanity. theres a lot more we could be doing in the name of common humanity but we dont. why? it's not practicable. Better do less then. If we can't do literally the most we can do in the name of common humanity then why do anything at all. Particularly if terrorists are threatening. It's probably better to give in to them. Are you serious? Terrorists being cunts is the price of having principles. Deciding that the solution is to just not have any principles is the wrong way to go. if you want to help people, you have to ensure your own house is in order so that you can support them. if in ur quest to help people, your own system collapses, then ur in a bigger mess than wat u started with. thats the reality of things. | ||
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Jetaap
France4814 Posts
I was really worried because my cousin lives rue de Charonne ... fortunately I got the news that he is safe, but there are so many people that i know in paris that could have been in one of places that were attacked .. fuck i hate this world life is going to be hard in the next decades | ||
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Makro
France16890 Posts
On November 14 2015 08:27 OtherWorld wrote: Show nested quote + On November 14 2015 08:25 Makro wrote: the last time the state of emergency on the whole france has been activated was during the war of algeria To be fair though SoE on the whole territory is not necessary right now. There are no declared threats in not-Paris i agree | ||
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farvacola
United States18855 Posts
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m4ini
4215 Posts
BREAK: Five explosions heard near Bataclan Concert Hall, according to the Reuters news agency. Picture: Rescue workers run after hearing what is believed to be explosions or gun shots near Place de la Republique square Sky News. | ||
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sharkie
Austria18592 Posts
On November 14 2015 08:27 KwarK wrote: Show nested quote + On November 14 2015 08:22 Maluk wrote: On November 14 2015 08:16 KwarK wrote: Is the difference between English and Nirish so much greater than that between French and Syrian?. What. My point was that people are people everywhere. That was essentially what I was getting at. That the only real difference between a Syrian infant and a French infant is geography. But if we really want to get into this I suspect that if you asked people about hatred of a specific hatred of a specific country you'd find far more people in Northern Ireland who hate England than you would in Syria who hate France. Additionally the French took over and settled Syria around the same time the English did Ireland, there's French blood in Syrian veins. Terrorism isn't new to Europe. It was a fact of life in England for decades. We endured because it was a price that was worth paying. I don't think its infants bombing and killing people. | ||
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Rels
France13467 Posts
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PhoenixVoid
Canada32746 Posts
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