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On November 14 2015 08:28 ahswtini wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2015 08:24 KwarK wrote:On November 14 2015 08:20 ahswtini wrote:On November 14 2015 08:19 KwarK wrote:On November 14 2015 08:18 ahswtini wrote:On November 14 2015 08:16 KwarK wrote:On November 14 2015 08:11 ahswtini wrote:On November 14 2015 08:09 KwarK wrote:On November 14 2015 08:07 ahswtini wrote:On November 14 2015 08:06 KwarK wrote:
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You a Loyalist by any chance? i'm a realist Do you remember that time the English decided the IRA were too much effort and left the Nirish on their own? I don't. I recall terrorism being accepted as the price of a necessary fight to protect the rights of the people. how is this relevant? northern ireland = part of the uk. the people of northern ireland are british. of course the british government can't abandon them. how is this related to european countries being obliged to help refugees at the expense of their own security? Is the difference between English and Nirish so much greater than that between French and Syrian? yeah im done, i can't respect what ur saying at all I feel no more kinship with the Nirish as I do with any other human and I understand less of what they're saying. The obligation to help other human beings and to stand up to terrorism has nothing to do with national borders and everything to do with our common humanity. theres a lot more we could be doing in the name of common humanity but we dont. why? it's not practicable. Better do less then. If we can't do literally the most we can do in the name of common humanity then why do anything at all. Particularly if terrorists are threatening. It's probably better to give in to them. Are you serious? Terrorists being cunts is the price of having principles. Deciding that the solution is to just not have any principles is the wrong way to go. if you want to help people, you have to ensure your own house is in order so that you can support them. if in ur quest to help people, your own system collapses, then ur in a bigger mess than wat u started with. thats the reality of things.
I've been putting it this way trying to explain why Swedens migration isn't working.
Imagine if we had a lifeboat, it fits exactly 10 people. Great we can save and help 10 people. But no more, we aren't able of it. If we try to save 15 instead all 15 dies and 10 saved > 15 dead.
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Hm.. Sky News is showing an older video though as "source". Grain of salt there then.
edit: apparently they raid now.
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Apparently shit is going down inside the bataclan
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MrHoon
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On November 14 2015 08:29 PhoenixVoid wrote:
god i hope those people are okay
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On November 14 2015 08:23 Erasme wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2015 08:21 Djzapz wrote:On November 14 2015 08:20 Erasme wrote:im sorry guys ahah i clearly overreacted see i fixed it teehee  Do you think this is a reasonable reaction to tens of deaths? I already sent messages to my friends who heard gunshots right down their houses thanks internet warrior clueless of economy and politics
I know a lot about those topics, I teach one of them in a university and I'm decently versed in the other... I'm just not fond of "Merkel is responsible of this" with no context, no explanation, a very absolute statement too which shows a lack of actual understanding of the issues. Anyone with half a brain would be skeptical of the BS spouted by someone like you - single-cause explanation of a complicated issue.
Good to hear that you've sent messages though.
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On November 14 2015 08:27 KwarK wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2015 08:22 Maluk wrote:On November 14 2015 08:16 KwarK wrote:
Is the difference between English and Nirish so much greater than that between French and Syrian?. What. My point was that people are people everywhere. That was essentially what I was getting at. That the only real difference between a Syrian infant and a French infant is geography.
Infants aren't yet indoctrinated into barbaric, backwards, belief systems.
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On November 14 2015 08:30 MrHoon wrote:god i hope those people are okay
They must have been stuck there for 1.5-2hours now? Holy shit every minute must have felt like ages.
Really hope as many as possible makes it out safely
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This has nothing to do with Merkel and the policy towards refugee. You will soon see what every french already know and that is that those guy shooting are french (they speak in french...). It's our economy and our society that is sick, and what is happening in Syria is just an excuse for some people to take a stand and give sense to their empty and meaningless life.
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MrHoon
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We will no longer be reporting what's happening at the Bataclan. This is due to a gag request by French Police.
oh god its actually as bad as those poor hostages were texting to their families and people.
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RELIGION OF PEACE LMAO
User was warned for this post
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On November 14 2015 08:33 WhiteDog wrote:
This has nothing to do with Merkel and the policy towards refugee. You will soon see what every french already know and that is that those guy shooting are french (they speak in french...). It's our economy and our society that is sick, and what is happening in Syria is just an excuse for some people to take a stand and give sense to their empty and meaningless life.
also true
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On November 14 2015 08:31 crms wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2015 08:27 KwarK wrote:On November 14 2015 08:22 Maluk wrote:On November 14 2015 08:16 KwarK wrote:
Is the difference between English and Nirish so much greater than that between French and Syrian?. What. My point was that people are people everywhere. That was essentially what I was getting at. That the only real difference between a Syrian infant and a French infant is geography. Infants aren't yet indoctrinated into barbaric, backwards, belief systems.
maybe people in general are just barbaric and backwards
maybe if you got rid of all the people who believe in those barbaric backwards things we'd just come up with some new barbaric backwards thing to believe in
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United States44213 Posts
On November 14 2015 08:31 crms wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2015 08:27 KwarK wrote:On November 14 2015 08:22 Maluk wrote:On November 14 2015 08:16 KwarK wrote:
Is the difference between English and Nirish so much greater than that between French and Syrian?. What. My point was that people are people everywhere. That was essentially what I was getting at. That the only real difference between a Syrian infant and a French infant is geography. Infants aren't yet indoctrinated into barbaric, backwards, belief systems.
And neither is every Syrian.
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if journalist and media could stop tweeting and informing what the police is doing, it would be really great
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Northern Ireland22213 Posts
On November 14 2015 08:33 MrHoon wrote:Show nested quote +We will no longer be reporting what's happening at the Bataclan. This is due to a gag request by French Police. oh god its actually as bad as those poor hostages were texting to their families and people.
yes nothing worse than mainstream/social media broadcasting security forces movement to whoever is watching
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On November 14 2015 08:34 Verniy wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2015 08:31 crms wrote:On November 14 2015 08:27 KwarK wrote:On November 14 2015 08:22 Maluk wrote:On November 14 2015 08:16 KwarK wrote:
Is the difference between English and Nirish so much greater than that between French and Syrian?. What. My point was that people are people everywhere. That was essentially what I was getting at. That the only real difference between a Syrian infant and a French infant is geography. Infants aren't yet indoctrinated into barbaric, backwards, belief systems. maybe people in general are just barbaric and backwards maybe if you got rid of all the people who believe in those barbaric backwards things we'd just come up with some new barbaric backwards thing to believe in
Wise post.
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On November 14 2015 08:34 Verniy wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2015 08:31 crms wrote:On November 14 2015 08:27 KwarK wrote:On November 14 2015 08:22 Maluk wrote:On November 14 2015 08:16 KwarK wrote:
Is the difference between English and Nirish so much greater than that between French and Syrian?. What. My point was that people are people everywhere. That was essentially what I was getting at. That the only real difference between a Syrian infant and a French infant is geography. Infants aren't yet indoctrinated into barbaric, backwards, belief systems. maybe people in general are just barbaric and backwards maybe if you got rid of all the people who believe in those barbaric backwards things we'd just come up with some new barbaric backwards thing to believe in
Right now, I'd take my barbarics values over middle east people's.
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On November 14 2015 08:27 Reaps wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2015 08:25 zeo wrote:On November 14 2015 08:22 KwarK wrote:On November 14 2015 08:19 Rocket-Bear wrote:On November 14 2015 08:16 KwarK wrote:On November 14 2015 08:11 ahswtini wrote:On November 14 2015 08:09 KwarK wrote:On November 14 2015 08:07 ahswtini wrote:On November 14 2015 08:06 KwarK wrote:On November 14 2015 08:04 ahswtini wrote:
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how about looking after our own first? shit sucks, u cant help everyone in the world, but ultimately france should put the safety of its own people first You a Loyalist by any chance? i'm a realist Do you remember that time the English decided the IRA were too much effort and left the Nirish on their own? I don't. I recall terrorism being accepted as the price of a necessary fight to protect the rights of the people. how is this relevant? northern ireland = part of the uk. the people of northern ireland are british. of course the british government can't abandon them. how is this related to european countries being obliged to help refugees at the expense of their own security? We're all people. The difference between English and Nirish is not so much less than between French and Syrian. Are you actually serious? There are bigger core value differences. And you know the part that Syria is a muslim country And for being a "religion of peace" they sure tend to end up in a lot of wars I didn't mean in terms of core values or culture although it is interesting to note that a large number of people in Northern Ireland were passionately anti English to the point of bombings and so forth and were also very passionately of a different religion to the English majority. But I was more talking in terms of "people are people everywhere". Christians seem to get into a fair few wars too. Do we have an atheist control group to check if it's not just a thing that people do? Atheist control groups are called communists, I'm sure atheists have caused a fair few more deaths then religious people over the last century. Holy shit, please tell me you're drunk.
No, he is always like that. And he managed to poison the Ukraine thread to the point where it had to get closed. He also tried the same in the Iraq and Syria thread.
Why he is not banned from this site yet, I have no idea.
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According to LeMonde the GIGN is being deployed in Les Halles right now
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On November 14 2015 08:34 KwarK wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2015 08:31 crms wrote:On November 14 2015 08:27 KwarK wrote:On November 14 2015 08:22 Maluk wrote:On November 14 2015 08:16 KwarK wrote:
Is the difference between English and Nirish so much greater than that between French and Syrian?. What. My point was that people are people everywhere. That was essentially what I was getting at. That the only real difference between a Syrian infant and a French infant is geography. Infants aren't yet indoctrinated into barbaric, backwards, belief systems. And neither is every Syrian.
Of course not, but you're being intellectually dishonest with your infant analogy as it pertains to the immigration issue overall.
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