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have funapple removing games that have the flag is even more hilarious :p if i remember even starcraft used conferate flag in sc1 for the confederacy ;D http://starcraft.wikia.com/wiki/Confederacy_Council lol
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GizmoPT
Portugal3040 Posts
have funapple removing games that have the flag is even more hilarious :p if i remember even starcraft used conferate flag in sc1 for the confederacy ;D http://starcraft.wikia.com/wiki/Confederacy_Council lol | ||
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riotjune
United States3394 Posts
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On June 26 2015 09:57 GizmoPT wrote: comparing them to Nazis is hilarious.. you Americans never sieze to amaze me... you guys are becoming more like nazi germany every day have funapple removing games that have the flag is even more hilarious :p if i remember even starcraft used conferate flag in sc1 for the confederacy ;D http://starcraft.wikia.com/wiki/Confederacy_Council lol The fact you typed this makes me think you don't really understand who the Nazis were. | ||
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Cascade
Australia5405 Posts
Anyway, even with a bit of racist connotation, it is pretty scary, and telling I guess, that they use it on government buildings... | ||
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Sermokala
United States14050 Posts
On June 26 2015 06:08 FHDH wrote: I once served in a state that captured a southern state's battle standard and refused to ever return it. I'm quite proud of that and am a true American staunch pro-Unionist. Fuck Confederate traitors and their sympathizers. Fuck slavers, their supporters, and all the historical revisionists who have been working to erase the reality of their history. Fuck that flag. It's a good day to be an American. Minnesotas 1st infantry and on the last day of Gettysburg. It's a really heroic story suicide charge to buy the union time before being transferred right in front of pickets charge. | ||
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zobz
Canada2175 Posts
On June 26 2015 03:51 BisuDagger wrote: Major companies are choosing to ban content and/or remove merchandise that contain the confederate flag. I basically ranted on PC related issues in the spoiler below. You can read this and address if you like or just discuss the primary topic of the flag. Edit: Spoilered this + Show Spoiler + I'm personally fed up with how PC the American society has become. For a nation that is supposed to be free, we are sure being hypocrites. People want to tear down monuments of generals who fought in the south because it is offensive to minorities. In Atlanta, Georgia a fireman was fired because he doesn't support homosexuality. ( Source ) Are we losing our minds in this nation or am I the age where I'm paying attention better and this has always been happening? Even Hilary Clinton has been accused of insulting minorities for saying "All lives matter" in her latest speech. Written news from Black Republican Herman Cain You're not allowed to say "all lives matter" because the left has established a mantra - with a hashtag, even, and nothing could make a mantra more official than that - of declaring that #blacklivesmatter. You have to say it right. You have to say it the way they want you to say it. No variations allowed. Professor Judith Butler of UC Berkeley explains why there can be no exceptions to the speech code: “When some people rejoin with ‘All Lives Matter’ they misunderstand the problem, but not because their message is untrue,” she wrote. “It is true that all lives matter, but it is equally true that not all lives are understood to matter which is precisely why it is most important to name the lives that have not mattered, and are struggling to matter in the way they deserve.” - See more at: http://www.hermancain.com/liberals-mad-at-hillary-for-sa#sthash.CDHCIia3.dpuf So what's the deal here. Do you believe America is heading in the wrong direction or not? source http://news.slashdot.org/story/15/06/25/1631238/google-apple-and-others-remove-content-related-to-the-confederate-flag If you are an American and you believe in liberty, true liberty, then do not complain when speech is controlled, to positive ends, by non-freedom violating means on private property. The confederate flag is a fucking stupid relic, which I believe is not associated only with racism, not only defended or saluted for that reason, but it certainly is racist nonetheless and does not deserve defense or salute. Taking down that flag from your own property, be it a small home, an apartment you lease with contractual speech privileges, a car you sleep out of, or the biggest corporate mega-conglomerate in the history of the world, is the right thing to do, should be absolutely legal, and criticized by no one, but certainly not in the name of liberty. | ||
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Jormundr
United States1678 Posts
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
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Cascade
Australia5405 Posts
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Psychonian
United States2322 Posts
On June 26 2015 12:08 Cascade wrote: So all these people that complain about all the social justice warriors, do they identify themselves as social unjustice warriors? I actually struggle to understand how "social justice warrior" can be turned into an insult. People don't want social justice? I just find it a bit odd choice of phrase. People use the term to make fun of people who do completely ridiculous things in the name of social justice. It's not that people who are anti-SJW are anti-social justice. It's that they disapprove of the things that people do in the name of social justice, e.g. doxxing, death threats, harassment, etc. | ||
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oBlade
United States5778 Posts
On June 26 2015 08:54 Stratos_speAr wrote: There is no government ban on buying/selling/owning the Confederate flag. There isn't some huge conspiracy by all retailers out there to not sell it. I guarantee you that there are still retailers out there that will sell the flag after this is all said and done. Shit, I guarantee you that there are retailers out there that sell the Nazi flag in this country, which is probably the single worst and most hateful symbol in the history of humanity. I don't see what your complaint is. The only thing I am getting from you is some bizarre paranoia. What consumer rights aren't being protected? The right to buy a Confederate flag? Consumers have never had a right to force retailers to stock a particular item for them to buy. Companies are forced to do (or not do) things in order to protect the rights of people or to ensure that a monopoly doesn't occur. What right is a company infringing on if they refuse to sell the Confederate flag? Of course there's no conspiracy. That doesn't mean they aren't collectively wrong. You are correct that there's nothing from the government banning this, you and everyone else have been correct every time you've repeated that. That what makes it so perplexing. I would simply rather huge online marketplaces didn't take over the market and then arbitrarily stop people from selling and buying some random thing, because that could be me later. On June 26 2015 09:08 Stratos_speAr wrote: As a white male, you do not get to use the N word. Black people can. This is how the world works. It's called context. Deal with it. I really hope you studied American history in school, because it shouldn't be that difficult to remember all of the things that the N word entails when a white man says it. I think you've shown where you're coming from now. I'm wondering if you personally have you ever considered the irony in saying that people born with a certain color skin can't say something you think is racially charged? On June 26 2015 09:31 y0su wrote: Agreed, just like everyone who has a Nazi flag isn't antisemitic. Are you being facetious here or sincere? Because that makes sense to me, I can easily imagine veterans and history buffs with Third Reich/Nazi memorabilia. | ||
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Cascade
Australia5405 Posts
On June 26 2015 12:15 Psychonian wrote: People use the term to make fun of people who do completely ridiculous things in the name of social justice. It's not that people who are anti-SJW are anti-social justice. It's that they disapprove of the things that people do in the name of social justice, e.g. doxxing, death threats, harassment, etc. So they are more anti-warrior then, is that what you are saying? A kind of pacifists? | ||
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WolfintheSheep
Canada14127 Posts
On June 26 2015 12:08 Cascade wrote: So all these people that complain about all the social justice warriors, do they identify themselves as social unjustice warriors? I actually struggle to understand how "social justice warrior" can be turned into an insult. People don't want social justice? I just find it a bit odd choice of phrase. I think it's generally the "warrior" part that is the issue. There's a very large, and very serious, difference between fighting for good causes and attacking people who fall somewhere in opposition to your cause. Or, I guess to put it better, bullying is bad, and using good causes as a cheap excuse to be a bully doesn't make it better. That said, you can't bully a corporation. | ||
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Scarecrow
Korea (South)9172 Posts
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screamingpalm
United States1527 Posts
On June 26 2015 12:49 Scarecrow wrote: Not to turn this thread into one of those, but it's depressing that the reaction to Charleston is to ban a flag rather than the means of the killing. I'd much rather racists have flags than automatics. If anything should be banned, it is the ignorant southern public school curriculum that promotes Confederate apologist and "State's Rights" revisionist history. Just as I was taught back in Virginia. Sic Semper Tyrannis! | ||
c3rberUs
Japan11286 Posts
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WolfintheSheep
Canada14127 Posts
And it would be nice if they wouldn't be glorified in negative perception either. American media seems to aggrandize both Nazis and Confederates as some kind of ultimate evil that every bad guy must reference in some form. | ||
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LuckyFool
United States9015 Posts
On June 26 2015 12:15 Psychonian wrote: People use the term to make fun of people who do completely ridiculous things in the name of social justice. It's not that people who are anti-SJW are anti-social justice. It's that they disapprove of the things that people do in the name of social justice, e.g. doxxing, death threats, harassment, etc. social justice lol. whats the difference between social justice and justice, seriously. confederate flag issue has been a complete and utter joke. drummed up by the media just looking for drama. they couldnt let this event pass without getting something out of it. The people of Charleston took the high road, responding with love and forgiveness, the media didn't know how to react, so they went after a flag. Had there been riots in Charleston the race baiters would have been out in full force and we would be listening to Al Sharpton lecture us about white supremacy right now, but since they can't do that they had to go after a freakin flag. | ||
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Cascade
Australia5405 Posts
wiki link The Confederate flag is a controversial symbol for many Americans today. A 2011 Pew Research poll revealed that 30% of Americans have a "negative reaction" when "they see the Confederate flag displayed."[35] According to the same poll, 9% of Americans have a positive reaction. A majority (58%) have no reaction. In a 2013 YouGov poll, a plurality (38%) of those polled disapproved of displaying the flag in public places.[36] In the same poll, a plurality (44%) of those asked viewed the flag as a symbol of racism, with 24% viewing it as exclusively racist and 20% viewing it as both racist and symbolic of pride in the region.[36] So trusting those numbers, it seems like just below half associate it with racism, while very few actually like it. So I can see how this a good move for the companies. | ||
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y0su
Finland7871 Posts
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