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valium
Profile Joined June 2012
United States251 Posts
June 25 2015 23:52 GMT
#121
On June 26 2015 08:43 FHDH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2015 08:43 valium wrote:
slavery was just a PART of why the southern states wanted to secede from the union.

Wrong. It was the CENTRAL ISSUE.

Don't believe me? There's tons more where that came from.


A central issue, among others.
It is not easy being this awesome and modest
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-25 23:53:41
June 25 2015 23:52 GMT
#122
On June 26 2015 08:49 BisuDagger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2015 08:42 FHDH wrote:
Is this really overdue?

Yes. Recognizing this as a symbol of hate you might not want to be associated with is long overdue.

What's even more overdue is the removal of things like the bust of Nathan Bedford Forrest from the Tennessee State House because "heritage." Of the removal of Jefferson Davis from the UT campus because "heritage." Removal of the banner from the flag of Mississippi, and getting rid of the "sons of the confederacy" license plates.

What's long overdue is and end to the historical revisionism that leads people who really don't know better to fly the flag. The same historical revisionism that allows it to be flown on government grounds. The same historical revisionism that leads people to think their "heritage" trumps the reality of both history and the lives lead by African Americans.

The flag was flown by those fighting to betray the United States so they could keep blacks in chains. It was revived to remind black Americans just who fucking runs the south. It's long, LONG fucking overdue to be recognized as such.

How about the N word that has horrible connotations being used by our very own president this past weak on the radio. Our issues run deep these days.

On a tablet not sure if source is correct here:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IR6UwAez8Ko

What point are you trying to make?

On June 26 2015 08:52 valium wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2015 08:43 FHDH wrote:
On June 26 2015 08:43 valium wrote:
slavery was just a PART of why the southern states wanted to secede from the union.

Wrong. It was the CENTRAL ISSUE.

Don't believe me? There's tons more where that came from.


A central issue, among others.


It was the only reason the war started and it never would have happened if the North was not pushing towards emancipation.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23189 Posts
June 25 2015 23:53 GMT
#123
On June 26 2015 08:52 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2015 08:49 BisuDagger wrote:
On June 26 2015 08:42 FHDH wrote:
Is this really overdue?

Yes. Recognizing this as a symbol of hate you might not want to be associated with is long overdue.

What's even more overdue is the removal of things like the bust of Nathan Bedford Forrest from the Tennessee State House because "heritage." Of the removal of Jefferson Davis from the UT campus because "heritage." Removal of the banner from the flag of Mississippi, and getting rid of the "sons of the confederacy" license plates.

What's long overdue is and end to the historical revisionism that leads people who really don't know better to fly the flag. The same historical revisionism that allows it to be flown on government grounds. The same historical revisionism that leads people to think their "heritage" trumps the reality of both history and the lives lead by African Americans.

The flag was flown by those fighting to betray the United States so they could keep blacks in chains. It was revived to remind black Americans just who fucking runs the south. It's long, LONG fucking overdue to be recognized as such.

How about the N word that has horrible connotations being used by our very own president this past weak on the radio. Our issues run deep these days.

On a tablet not sure if source is correct here:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IR6UwAez8Ko

What point are you trying to make?


I know which one was made unintentionally.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
FHDH
Profile Joined July 2014
United States7023 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-25 23:54:26
June 25 2015 23:53 GMT
#124
On June 26 2015 08:52 valium wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2015 08:43 FHDH wrote:
On June 26 2015 08:43 valium wrote:
slavery was just a PART of why the southern states wanted to secede from the union.

Wrong. It was the CENTRAL ISSUE.

Don't believe me? There's tons more where that came from.


A central issue, among others.

It was THE CENTRAL ISSUE. There were other issues but it was THE CENTRAL ISSUE.

Everyone - EVERYONE - who believes otherwise is a victim of historical revisionism. This IS what the Civil War was about. It was not and should not be treated as a proud time for the south.
После драки кулаками не машут (Don't shake your fist when the fight is over)
Stratos_speAr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States6959 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-26 00:00:38
June 25 2015 23:54 GMT
#125
If you believe in principle that corporate interests are equal to or more important than people, then we can just disagree there probably. I think of consumers as something to protect. Not in the sense of protecting them from a flag - or whatever other thing - that the media is telling them they can't handle. But protect the interests of consumers, including this and whatever shit to come that Google thinks they must or mustn't have. People were just selling and buying stuff with a flag on it. "They have a right to do this, so what is the problem? They're just doing it."


There is no government ban on buying/selling/owning the Confederate flag.

There isn't some huge conspiracy by all retailers out there to not sell it.

I guarantee you that there are still retailers out there that will sell the flag after this is all said and done.

Shit, I guarantee you that there are retailers out there that sell the Nazi flag in this country, which is probably the single worst and most hateful symbol in the history of humanity.

I don't see what your complaint is. The only thing I am getting from you is some bizarre paranoia. What consumer rights aren't being protected? The right to buy a Confederate flag? Consumers have never had a right to force retailers to stock a particular item for them to buy.

No, in society, we never have occasion to force a company to do something they don't want to do, like not dump waste into a river or sell internet bandwidth without throttling the connection when the user tries to stream Netflix.


Companies are forced to do (or not do) things in order to protect the rights of people or to ensure that a monopoly doesn't occur.

What right is a company infringing on if they refuse to sell the Confederate flag?
A sound mind in a sound body, is a short, but full description of a happy state in this World: he that has these two, has little more to wish for; and he that wants either of them, will be little the better for anything else.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
June 25 2015 23:55 GMT
#126
On June 26 2015 08:53 GreenHorizons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2015 08:52 Plansix wrote:
On June 26 2015 08:49 BisuDagger wrote:
On June 26 2015 08:42 FHDH wrote:
Is this really overdue?

Yes. Recognizing this as a symbol of hate you might not want to be associated with is long overdue.

What's even more overdue is the removal of things like the bust of Nathan Bedford Forrest from the Tennessee State House because "heritage." Of the removal of Jefferson Davis from the UT campus because "heritage." Removal of the banner from the flag of Mississippi, and getting rid of the "sons of the confederacy" license plates.

What's long overdue is and end to the historical revisionism that leads people who really don't know better to fly the flag. The same historical revisionism that allows it to be flown on government grounds. The same historical revisionism that leads people to think their "heritage" trumps the reality of both history and the lives lead by African Americans.

The flag was flown by those fighting to betray the United States so they could keep blacks in chains. It was revived to remind black Americans just who fucking runs the south. It's long, LONG fucking overdue to be recognized as such.

How about the N word that has horrible connotations being used by our very own president this past weak on the radio. Our issues run deep these days.

On a tablet not sure if source is correct here:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IR6UwAez8Ko

What point are you trying to make?


I know which one was made unintentionally.

That there is no one more qualified to explain racism to the American public than the first black president. And that he can drop the n-word to make a point because he is the first black president. And he is in his last term so he gives zero fucks how uncomfortable he makes white people.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19230 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-25 23:58:12
June 25 2015 23:57 GMT
#127
On June 26 2015 08:49 FHDH wrote:
Show nested quote +
No, in society, we never have occasion to force a company to do something they don't want to do, like not dump waste into a river or sell internet bandwidth without throttling the connection when the user tries to stream Netflix.

This is cute. What is it you're suggesting? Just go ahead and say it.

Show nested quote +
On June 26 2015 08:49 BisuDagger wrote:
On June 26 2015 08:42 FHDH wrote:
Is this really overdue?

Yes. Recognizing this as a symbol of hate you might not want to be associated with is long overdue.

What's even more overdue is the removal of things like the bust of Nathan Bedford Forrest from the Tennessee State House because "heritage." Of the removal of Jefferson Davis from the UT campus because "heritage." Removal of the banner from the flag of Mississippi, and getting rid of the "sons of the confederacy" license plates.

What's long overdue is and end to the historical revisionism that leads people who really don't know better to fly the flag. The same historical revisionism that allows it to be flown on government grounds. The same historical revisionism that leads people to think their "heritage" trumps the reality of both history and the lives lead by African Americans.

The flag was flown by those fighting to betray the United States so they could keep blacks in chains. It was revived to remind black Americans just who fucking runs the south. It's long, LONG fucking overdue to be recognized as such.

How about the N word that has horrible connotations being used by our very own president this past weak on the radio. Our issues run deep these days.

On a tablet not sure if source is correct here:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IR6UwAez8Ko

So? Seriously, so what?

How come black people can be offended by the flag, but not by the N word. They condone white people if they use it, but then use it freely. And now we get in trouble if we say African American instead of black. I'm having trouble keeping up with how to not offend people. The president saying the N word is endorsing that it is okay for blacks to say it, yet if a white person said the word in that interview he/she would lose their job.
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
Paljas
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6926 Posts
June 25 2015 23:58 GMT
#128
I AM WHITE AND CANT SAY THE N WORD; THATS RACIST
TL+ Member
Stratos_speAr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States6959 Posts
June 25 2015 23:59 GMT
#129
On June 26 2015 08:57 BisuDagger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2015 08:49 FHDH wrote:
No, in society, we never have occasion to force a company to do something they don't want to do, like not dump waste into a river or sell internet bandwidth without throttling the connection when the user tries to stream Netflix.

This is cute. What is it you're suggesting? Just go ahead and say it.

On June 26 2015 08:49 BisuDagger wrote:
On June 26 2015 08:42 FHDH wrote:
Is this really overdue?

Yes. Recognizing this as a symbol of hate you might not want to be associated with is long overdue.

What's even more overdue is the removal of things like the bust of Nathan Bedford Forrest from the Tennessee State House because "heritage." Of the removal of Jefferson Davis from the UT campus because "heritage." Removal of the banner from the flag of Mississippi, and getting rid of the "sons of the confederacy" license plates.

What's long overdue is and end to the historical revisionism that leads people who really don't know better to fly the flag. The same historical revisionism that allows it to be flown on government grounds. The same historical revisionism that leads people to think their "heritage" trumps the reality of both history and the lives lead by African Americans.

The flag was flown by those fighting to betray the United States so they could keep blacks in chains. It was revived to remind black Americans just who fucking runs the south. It's long, LONG fucking overdue to be recognized as such.

How about the N word that has horrible connotations being used by our very own president this past weak on the radio. Our issues run deep these days.

On a tablet not sure if source is correct here:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IR6UwAez8Ko

So? Seriously, so what?

How come black people can be offended by the flag, but not by the N word. They condone white people if they use it, but then use it freely. And now we get in trouble if we say African American instead of black. I'm having trouble keeping up with how to not offend people. The president saying the N word is endorsing that it is okay for blacks to say it, yet if a white person said the word in that interview he/she would lose their job.


Oh jeez, don't get into the N word argument...

And I'm pretty sure saying something is different that a company choosing to sell or not sell an item.
A sound mind in a sound body, is a short, but full description of a happy state in this World: he that has these two, has little more to wish for; and he that wants either of them, will be little the better for anything else.
FHDH
Profile Joined July 2014
United States7023 Posts
June 26 2015 00:00 GMT
#130
On June 26 2015 08:57 BisuDagger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2015 08:49 FHDH wrote:
No, in society, we never have occasion to force a company to do something they don't want to do, like not dump waste into a river or sell internet bandwidth without throttling the connection when the user tries to stream Netflix.

This is cute. What is it you're suggesting? Just go ahead and say it.

On June 26 2015 08:49 BisuDagger wrote:
On June 26 2015 08:42 FHDH wrote:
Is this really overdue?

Yes. Recognizing this as a symbol of hate you might not want to be associated with is long overdue.

What's even more overdue is the removal of things like the bust of Nathan Bedford Forrest from the Tennessee State House because "heritage." Of the removal of Jefferson Davis from the UT campus because "heritage." Removal of the banner from the flag of Mississippi, and getting rid of the "sons of the confederacy" license plates.

What's long overdue is and end to the historical revisionism that leads people who really don't know better to fly the flag. The same historical revisionism that allows it to be flown on government grounds. The same historical revisionism that leads people to think their "heritage" trumps the reality of both history and the lives lead by African Americans.

The flag was flown by those fighting to betray the United States so they could keep blacks in chains. It was revived to remind black Americans just who fucking runs the south. It's long, LONG fucking overdue to be recognized as such.

How about the N word that has horrible connotations being used by our very own president this past weak on the radio. Our issues run deep these days.

On a tablet not sure if source is correct here:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IR6UwAez8Ko

So? Seriously, so what?

How come black peopl can be offended by the flag, but not by the N word. They condone white people if they use it, but then use it freely. And now we get in trouble if we say African American instead of black. I'm having trouble keeping up with how to not offend people. The president saying the N word is endorsing that it is okay for blacks to say it, yet if a white person said the word in that interview he/she would lose their job.

Oh christ, we've got a wee one here.

Black people have made n**** their own. Gay men call each other f****. Lesbians freely use the word dyke. And so on and so on. This is a pattern of the oppressed. They are allowed it. White people don't get to complain about it. Straights don't get to complain about it. Doing so is extremely childish and demonstrates no real understanding of what the demographics in question have gone through.

It means something different coming from their own mouths. Deal with it.
После драки кулаками не машут (Don't shake your fist when the fight is over)
Introvert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States4742 Posts
June 26 2015 00:01 GMT
#131
Remove the flag from the state building, and stop screaming about state's rights when that is NOT what the Civil War was about. This is one of those things I just don't understand. Maybe it's because I'm not a Southerner, but I wouldn't be proud of that time or that flag. Meanwhile everyone is talking about the flag as if it had some impact. It's just an easy target when there are other things to discuss.
"It is therefore only at the birth of a society that one can be completely logical in the laws. When you see a people enjoying this advantage, do not hasten to conclude that it is wise; think rather that it is young." -Alexis de Tocqueville
FHDH
Profile Joined July 2014
United States7023 Posts
June 26 2015 00:02 GMT
#132
On June 26 2015 09:01 Introvert wrote:
Remove the flag from the state building, and stop screaming about state's rights when that is NOT what the Civil War was about. This is one of those things I just don't understand. Maybe it's because I'm not a Southerner, but I wouldn't be proud of that time or that flag. Meanwhile everyone is talking about the flag as if it had some impact. It's just an easy target when there are other things to discuss.

There always are. But you take your victories where you can, when the opportunity comes.
После драки кулаками не машут (Don't shake your fist when the fight is over)
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19230 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-26 00:06:13
June 26 2015 00:05 GMT
#133
On June 26 2015 09:00 FHDH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2015 08:57 BisuDagger wrote:
On June 26 2015 08:49 FHDH wrote:
No, in society, we never have occasion to force a company to do something they don't want to do, like not dump waste into a river or sell internet bandwidth without throttling the connection when the user tries to stream Netflix.

This is cute. What is it you're suggesting? Just go ahead and say it.

On June 26 2015 08:49 BisuDagger wrote:
On June 26 2015 08:42 FHDH wrote:
Is this really overdue?

Yes. Recognizing this as a symbol of hate you might not want to be associated with is long overdue.

What's even more overdue is the removal of things like the bust of Nathan Bedford Forrest from the Tennessee State House because "heritage." Of the removal of Jefferson Davis from the UT campus because "heritage." Removal of the banner from the flag of Mississippi, and getting rid of the "sons of the confederacy" license plates.

What's long overdue is and end to the historical revisionism that leads people who really don't know better to fly the flag. The same historical revisionism that allows it to be flown on government grounds. The same historical revisionism that leads people to think their "heritage" trumps the reality of both history and the lives lead by African Americans.

The flag was flown by those fighting to betray the United States so they could keep blacks in chains. It was revived to remind black Americans just who fucking runs the south. It's long, LONG fucking overdue to be recognized as such.

How about the N word that has horrible connotations being used by our very own president this past weak on the radio. Our issues run deep these days.

On a tablet not sure if source is correct here:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IR6UwAez8Ko

So? Seriously, so what?

How come black peopl can be offended by the flag, but not by the N word. They condone white people if they use it, but then use it freely. And now we get in trouble if we say African American instead of black. I'm having trouble keeping up with how to not offend people. The president saying the N word is endorsing that it is okay for blacks to say it, yet if a white person said the word in that interview he/she would lose their job.

Oh christ, we've got a wee one here.

Black people have made n**** their own. Gay men call each other f****. Lesbians freely use the word dyke. And so on and so on. This is a pattern of the oppressed. They are allowed it. White people don't get to complain about it. Straights don't get to complain about it. Doing so is extremely childish and demonstrates no real understanding of what the demographics in question have gone through.

It means something different coming from their own mouths. Deal with it.

Right. So because I'm a white male middle class male I can't be offended by anything but only be the offender. This is how i feels these days. Don't respond acting childish because you don't like what I'm discussing.


"Because boys get more informal opportunities for computing experience outside of school, this lack of formal computing education especially affects girls and many youth of color." HUD, the press release added, has joined the Commitment to Action to help extend the program's reach in partnership with public housing authorities nationwide and provide computing access to the 485,000 girls residing in public housing.


So not even poor white males arent considered in this instance because apparently low income boys not of color have more informal opportunities to get into computing. This is all part of the same problem.

Source: http://news.slashdot.org/story/15/06/24/1236203/learn-to-code-program-for-10000-low-income-girls?sbsrc=md
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
June 26 2015 00:05 GMT
#134
On June 26 2015 08:57 BisuDagger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2015 08:49 FHDH wrote:
No, in society, we never have occasion to force a company to do something they don't want to do, like not dump waste into a river or sell internet bandwidth without throttling the connection when the user tries to stream Netflix.

This is cute. What is it you're suggesting? Just go ahead and say it.

On June 26 2015 08:49 BisuDagger wrote:
On June 26 2015 08:42 FHDH wrote:
Is this really overdue?

Yes. Recognizing this as a symbol of hate you might not want to be associated with is long overdue.

What's even more overdue is the removal of things like the bust of Nathan Bedford Forrest from the Tennessee State House because "heritage." Of the removal of Jefferson Davis from the UT campus because "heritage." Removal of the banner from the flag of Mississippi, and getting rid of the "sons of the confederacy" license plates.

What's long overdue is and end to the historical revisionism that leads people who really don't know better to fly the flag. The same historical revisionism that allows it to be flown on government grounds. The same historical revisionism that leads people to think their "heritage" trumps the reality of both history and the lives lead by African Americans.

The flag was flown by those fighting to betray the United States so they could keep blacks in chains. It was revived to remind black Americans just who fucking runs the south. It's long, LONG fucking overdue to be recognized as such.

How about the N word that has horrible connotations being used by our very own president this past weak on the radio. Our issues run deep these days.

On a tablet not sure if source is correct here:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IR6UwAez8Ko

So? Seriously, so what?

How come black people can be offended by the flag, but not by the N word. They condone white people if they use it, but then use it freely. And now we get in trouble if we say African American instead of black. I'm having trouble keeping up with how to not offend people. The president saying the N word is endorsing that it is okay for blacks to say it, yet if a white person said the word in that interview he/she would lose their job.

Are you for fucking real right now? He is the god damn first black President. Among his powers are to appoint Supreme Court justices and drop the N-word in interviews about racism.

And stop with the offended shit. People are not offended, they fucking hate that flag and the racists who rally around it. It sucks, the racists suck and the idea that its about States Rights and heritage is BS. People started using it in the 50-60s when the South was being forced to desegregate and that is when it was added to some state flags. It is a symbol of institutionalized racism, not a fucking tumbr post.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
FHDH
Profile Joined July 2014
United States7023 Posts
June 26 2015 00:06 GMT
#135
Right. So because I'm a white male middle class male I can't be offended by anything but only be the offender. This is how i feels these days. Don't respond acting childish because you don't like what I'm discussing.

No one said that. Take your fight to the street; you are getting straw all over our nice clean forum.
После драки кулаками не машут (Don't shake your fist when the fight is over)
Stratos_speAr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States6959 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-26 00:09:36
June 26 2015 00:08 GMT
#136
On June 26 2015 09:05 BisuDagger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2015 09:00 FHDH wrote:
On June 26 2015 08:57 BisuDagger wrote:
On June 26 2015 08:49 FHDH wrote:
No, in society, we never have occasion to force a company to do something they don't want to do, like not dump waste into a river or sell internet bandwidth without throttling the connection when the user tries to stream Netflix.

This is cute. What is it you're suggesting? Just go ahead and say it.

On June 26 2015 08:49 BisuDagger wrote:
On June 26 2015 08:42 FHDH wrote:
Is this really overdue?

Yes. Recognizing this as a symbol of hate you might not want to be associated with is long overdue.

What's even more overdue is the removal of things like the bust of Nathan Bedford Forrest from the Tennessee State House because "heritage." Of the removal of Jefferson Davis from the UT campus because "heritage." Removal of the banner from the flag of Mississippi, and getting rid of the "sons of the confederacy" license plates.

What's long overdue is and end to the historical revisionism that leads people who really don't know better to fly the flag. The same historical revisionism that allows it to be flown on government grounds. The same historical revisionism that leads people to think their "heritage" trumps the reality of both history and the lives lead by African Americans.

The flag was flown by those fighting to betray the United States so they could keep blacks in chains. It was revived to remind black Americans just who fucking runs the south. It's long, LONG fucking overdue to be recognized as such.

How about the N word that has horrible connotations being used by our very own president this past weak on the radio. Our issues run deep these days.

On a tablet not sure if source is correct here:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IR6UwAez8Ko

So? Seriously, so what?

How come black peopl can be offended by the flag, but not by the N word. They condone white people if they use it, but then use it freely. And now we get in trouble if we say African American instead of black. I'm having trouble keeping up with how to not offend people. The president saying the N word is endorsing that it is okay for blacks to say it, yet if a white person said the word in that interview he/she would lose their job.

Oh christ, we've got a wee one here.

Black people have made n**** their own. Gay men call each other f****. Lesbians freely use the word dyke. And so on and so on. This is a pattern of the oppressed. They are allowed it. White people don't get to complain about it. Straights don't get to complain about it. Doing so is extremely childish and demonstrates no real understanding of what the demographics in question have gone through.

It means something different coming from their own mouths. Deal with it.

Right. So because I'm a white male middle class male I can't be offended by anything but only be the offender. This is how i feels these days. Don't respond acting childish because you don't like what I'm discussing.

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"Because boys get more informal opportunities for computing experience outside of school, this lack of formal computing education especially affects girls and many youth of color." HUD, the press release added, has joined the Commitment to Action to help extend the program's reach in partnership with public housing authorities nationwide and provide computing access to the 485,000 girls residing in public housing.


So not even poor white males arent considered in this instance because apparently low income boys not of color have more informal opportunities to get into computing. This is all part of the same problem.

Source: http://news.slashdot.org/story/15/06/24/1236203/learn-to-code-program-for-10000-low-income-girls?sbsrc=md


As a white male, you do not get to use the N word. Black people can.

This is how the world works. It's called context. Deal with it. I really hope you studied American history in school, because it shouldn't be that difficult to remember all of the things that the N word entails when a white man says it.
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OuchyDathurts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4588 Posts
June 26 2015 00:10 GMT
#137
Obama said the word, just as a white person can say the word. It was said in a way clinical way to illustrate a point. White comedians say it as well to illustrate points. There's a difference between saying the word and using the word. White people can say the word but the general public has a problem with using it and tossing it around and using it with malicious intent. There is a distinction there.
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Yergidy
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2107 Posts
June 26 2015 00:12 GMT
#138
On June 26 2015 09:00 FHDH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2015 08:57 BisuDagger wrote:
On June 26 2015 08:49 FHDH wrote:
No, in society, we never have occasion to force a company to do something they don't want to do, like not dump waste into a river or sell internet bandwidth without throttling the connection when the user tries to stream Netflix.

This is cute. What is it you're suggesting? Just go ahead and say it.

On June 26 2015 08:49 BisuDagger wrote:
On June 26 2015 08:42 FHDH wrote:
Is this really overdue?

Yes. Recognizing this as a symbol of hate you might not want to be associated with is long overdue.

What's even more overdue is the removal of things like the bust of Nathan Bedford Forrest from the Tennessee State House because "heritage." Of the removal of Jefferson Davis from the UT campus because "heritage." Removal of the banner from the flag of Mississippi, and getting rid of the "sons of the confederacy" license plates.

What's long overdue is and end to the historical revisionism that leads people who really don't know better to fly the flag. The same historical revisionism that allows it to be flown on government grounds. The same historical revisionism that leads people to think their "heritage" trumps the reality of both history and the lives lead by African Americans.

The flag was flown by those fighting to betray the United States so they could keep blacks in chains. It was revived to remind black Americans just who fucking runs the south. It's long, LONG fucking overdue to be recognized as such.

How about the N word that has horrible connotations being used by our very own president this past weak on the radio. Our issues run deep these days.

On a tablet not sure if source is correct here:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IR6UwAez8Ko

So? Seriously, so what?

How come black peopl can be offended by the flag, but not by the N word. They condone white people if they use it, but then use it freely. And now we get in trouble if we say African American instead of black. I'm having trouble keeping up with how to not offend people. The president saying the N word is endorsing that it is okay for blacks to say it, yet if a white person said the word in that interview he/she would lose their job.

Oh christ, we've got a wee one here.

Black people have made n**** their own. Gay men call each other f****. Lesbians freely use the word dyke. And so on and so on. This is a pattern of the oppressed. They are allowed it. White people don't get to complain about it. Straights don't get to complain about it. Doing so is extremely childish and demonstrates no real understanding of what the demographics in question have gone through.

It means something different coming from their own mouths. Deal with it.

The point is southerners have made the confederate flag their own, you can't have it both ways.
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
June 26 2015 00:13 GMT
#139
On June 26 2015 09:12 Yergidy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2015 09:00 FHDH wrote:
On June 26 2015 08:57 BisuDagger wrote:
On June 26 2015 08:49 FHDH wrote:
No, in society, we never have occasion to force a company to do something they don't want to do, like not dump waste into a river or sell internet bandwidth without throttling the connection when the user tries to stream Netflix.

This is cute. What is it you're suggesting? Just go ahead and say it.

On June 26 2015 08:49 BisuDagger wrote:
On June 26 2015 08:42 FHDH wrote:
Is this really overdue?

Yes. Recognizing this as a symbol of hate you might not want to be associated with is long overdue.

What's even more overdue is the removal of things like the bust of Nathan Bedford Forrest from the Tennessee State House because "heritage." Of the removal of Jefferson Davis from the UT campus because "heritage." Removal of the banner from the flag of Mississippi, and getting rid of the "sons of the confederacy" license plates.

What's long overdue is and end to the historical revisionism that leads people who really don't know better to fly the flag. The same historical revisionism that allows it to be flown on government grounds. The same historical revisionism that leads people to think their "heritage" trumps the reality of both history and the lives lead by African Americans.

The flag was flown by those fighting to betray the United States so they could keep blacks in chains. It was revived to remind black Americans just who fucking runs the south. It's long, LONG fucking overdue to be recognized as such.

How about the N word that has horrible connotations being used by our very own president this past weak on the radio. Our issues run deep these days.

On a tablet not sure if source is correct here:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IR6UwAez8Ko

So? Seriously, so what?

How come black peopl can be offended by the flag, but not by the N word. They condone white people if they use it, but then use it freely. And now we get in trouble if we say African American instead of black. I'm having trouble keeping up with how to not offend people. The president saying the N word is endorsing that it is okay for blacks to say it, yet if a white person said the word in that interview he/she would lose their job.

Oh christ, we've got a wee one here.

Black people have made n**** their own. Gay men call each other f****. Lesbians freely use the word dyke. And so on and so on. This is a pattern of the oppressed. They are allowed it. White people don't get to complain about it. Straights don't get to complain about it. Doing so is extremely childish and demonstrates no real understanding of what the demographics in question have gone through.

It means something different coming from their own mouths. Deal with it.

The point is southerners have made the confederate flag their own, you can't have it both ways.

Yeah, they made it about racism when they started using it in the 50s.
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FHDH
Profile Joined July 2014
United States7023 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-26 00:13:58
June 26 2015 00:13 GMT
#140
It was actually inevitable that a thread about the Confederate battle standard would lead to a white boy complaining that society frowns on him using bigoted slurs while people in the targeted groups are given a pass. Are black people even oppressed?! Who are the REAL racists?! Poor whites have problems too! #alllivesmatter

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On June 26 2015 09:12 Yergidy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2015 09:00 FHDH wrote:
On June 26 2015 08:57 BisuDagger wrote:
On June 26 2015 08:49 FHDH wrote:
No, in society, we never have occasion to force a company to do something they don't want to do, like not dump waste into a river or sell internet bandwidth without throttling the connection when the user tries to stream Netflix.

This is cute. What is it you're suggesting? Just go ahead and say it.

On June 26 2015 08:49 BisuDagger wrote:
On June 26 2015 08:42 FHDH wrote:
Is this really overdue?

Yes. Recognizing this as a symbol of hate you might not want to be associated with is long overdue.

What's even more overdue is the removal of things like the bust of Nathan Bedford Forrest from the Tennessee State House because "heritage." Of the removal of Jefferson Davis from the UT campus because "heritage." Removal of the banner from the flag of Mississippi, and getting rid of the "sons of the confederacy" license plates.

What's long overdue is and end to the historical revisionism that leads people who really don't know better to fly the flag. The same historical revisionism that allows it to be flown on government grounds. The same historical revisionism that leads people to think their "heritage" trumps the reality of both history and the lives lead by African Americans.

The flag was flown by those fighting to betray the United States so they could keep blacks in chains. It was revived to remind black Americans just who fucking runs the south. It's long, LONG fucking overdue to be recognized as such.

How about the N word that has horrible connotations being used by our very own president this past weak on the radio. Our issues run deep these days.

On a tablet not sure if source is correct here:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IR6UwAez8Ko

So? Seriously, so what?

How come black peopl can be offended by the flag, but not by the N word. They condone white people if they use it, but then use it freely. And now we get in trouble if we say African American instead of black. I'm having trouble keeping up with how to not offend people. The president saying the N word is endorsing that it is okay for blacks to say it, yet if a white person said the word in that interview he/she would lose their job.

Oh christ, we've got a wee one here.

Black people have made n**** their own. Gay men call each other f****. Lesbians freely use the word dyke. And so on and so on. This is a pattern of the oppressed. They are allowed it. White people don't get to complain about it. Straights don't get to complain about it. Doing so is extremely childish and demonstrates no real understanding of what the demographics in question have gone through.

It means something different coming from their own mouths. Deal with it.

The point is southerners have made the confederate flag their own, you can't have it both ways.

AHAHAHAHAHA

Another child left behind.

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