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On July 01 2015 05:26 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2015 05:21 GreenHorizons wrote:
I think it's stupid to talk about banning it since that's not what people are asking for. From OP: Show nested quote +
Apple is removing from the App Store any games or other software featuring the Confederate Flag. This, of course, follows the recent shooting in South Carolina, which triggered a nationwide debate over whether the flag should be flown at government buildings (or anywhere).
I think that last part implies banning.
There has been absolutely zero legitimate discussion of any government ban on the Confederate flag.
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On July 01 2015 06:02 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2015 05:55 GreenHorizons wrote:On July 01 2015 05:50 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On July 01 2015 05:30 Plansix wrote:On July 01 2015 05:26 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On July 01 2015 05:21 GreenHorizons wrote:
I think it's stupid to talk about banning it since that's not what people are asking for. From OP:
Apple is removing from the App Store any games or other software featuring the Confederate Flag. This, of course, follows the recent shooting in South Carolina, which triggered a nationwide debate over whether the flag should be flown at government buildings (or anywhere).
I think that last part implies banning. That's called opinion. Apple of of the opinion that the flag is a worthless racist rag that isn't fit to mop of dog poo. Other people have the same opinion. That doesn't mean a law is going to be passed, just people expressing how they feel on the subject. Sorry if that scares you, but that's what freedom of expression is all about. Some people have the opinion it should be banned. Some people are asking for it, which is exactly the opposite of what GreenHorizons said. I don't have any problem with this opinion, and I even respect the right of people who whole this opinion, I just disagree with it. I even agree with you on the fact that it shouldn't be flying in Charleston. But if someone in Charleston wants to hang one on their own house, I support their decision. Apple can express their opinion all they want, and I also can express mine criticizing theirs. That's why I love freedom of expression. And the awesome thing about the free market is people can vote with their money where they want. Personally I don't use the Apple Store, so regarding the Apple ban itself, I don't have a horse in this race. But just like them, and just like you, I can express how I feel on this subject and the surrounding debate. Some people are asking for a condo on Mars. People asking for something isn't the bar for it to be treated with any credibility. There is no credible efforts to ban the flag, it's just a stupid thing to talk about. A way to distract from the actual issues. Show nested quote +On July 01 2015 05:58 GreenHorizons wrote:
As if anyone who wants one of the flags can't still easily find one? It's not like China gives a shit about whether it is offensive or not.
People are just being outright stupid about this. oBlade pretty much hit the nail on the head, but there's a lot of towns where your only alternative to Walmart for some of the goods it sells is dozens of miles away, if not more. And a lot of that open space is in formerly Confederate areas where people like that kind of merchandise. Sure on paper you could find one, but unless you sail to China or break into a warehouse, it's not going to be easy for people in those areas.
And?
This isn't internet service or groceries or any other necessity of life.
This is a flag.
There is absolutely zero obligation for any retailer to carry it. Even having this discussion and trying to frame it as some kind of intellectual, moral debate is utterly ridiculous.
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There is absolutely zero obligation for any retailer to carry it. Even having this discussion and trying to frame it as some kind of intellectual, moral debate is utterly ridiculous.
For real. This is all pretty absurd.
All this crying wolf screws us on the real problems going on.
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Hearts in the right place, but the complete wrong way to go about it.
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And if you really, honestly need a confederate flag, and absolutely no one is willing to sell one to you, you can still buy some red, white and blue cloth, a needle, and twirn. (Btw, this is not the case, 30 seconds of google gave me three seperate different places to order a confederate flag from. So you will not need to go without one.)
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On July 01 2015 06:25 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2015 06:17 GreenHorizons wrote:On July 01 2015 06:12 Plansix wrote:On July 01 2015 06:07 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On July 01 2015 05:59 Plansix wrote:On July 01 2015 05:55 oBlade wrote:On July 01 2015 05:24 heliusx wrote:On July 01 2015 05:19 SoSexy wrote:
I think it is a really stupid decision. You can't ban a symbol for what it represents, because you would have to literally ban everything.
Nothing has been or will be banned so... On July 01 2015 05:24 Plansix wrote:
People don't seem to understand the concept of willingly disassociating with a racist symbol and just assume its banning because "people are offended blah blah blah more dismissive crap" You might be confusing the fact that these are companies, and not an arm of government, with the question of whether it's a ban (which it is). If your account gets suspended from battle.net, it's a ban, not a "willing dissociation." If I kick smokers out of my store, then I've banned smoking from that store. If I create a hundreds of dollars piece of technology that fits in your pocket, and that grants exclusive access to the only shopping mall available exclusively for the millions of people who bought that technology, and then in one corner of the probably hundreds of square kilometers shopping mall, there's a couple of people selling things with a certain arrangement of colors and shapes on them, and I shut down whatever they're doing, that's commonly understood to be "banning" which is why you see the OP and its links all say that these places have banned the flag or the symbol. My ability walk naked through the mall is also banned. When will the oppression of private entities making decisions for themselves end. Unless you are for the government forcing these companies to carry the flag, which would be weird. The difference is, you can go walk naked in your house, or in the woods, or you could lobby your government to make it legal to walk naked in the street if it already isn't. People are satisfied by these alternatives, so there isn't a push to get stores to allow walking naked on their property. It's too early to say, but if demand is high enough above supply and there isn't some chain that starts advertising their Confederate flags, popular pressure will rise. This is why NASCAR, also a private organization, is condemning the flag but not outright banning it (at least for now), since they have a lot of people in their fanbase that fly it. Life is hard, get a helmet. 5 black churches were burned in South Carolina, so people have bigger shit to worry about than people who want to express their love of "states rights" have to wait a week for shipping of their flag. So people can't have problems because someone has it worse? That's like saying the death of On July 01 2015 06:10 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On July 01 2015 06:05 Plansix wrote:On July 01 2015 06:02 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On July 01 2015 05:55 GreenHorizons wrote:On July 01 2015 05:50 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On July 01 2015 05:30 Plansix wrote:On July 01 2015 05:26 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
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I think that last part implies banning. That's called opinion. Apple of of the opinion that the flag is a worthless racist rag that isn't fit to mop of dog poo. Other people have the same opinion. That doesn't mean a law is going to be passed, just people expressing how they feel on the subject. Sorry if that scares you, but that's what freedom of expression is all about. Some people have the opinion it should be banned. Some people are asking for it, which is exactly the opposite of what GreenHorizons said. I don't have any problem with this opinion, and I even respect the right of people who whole this opinion, I just disagree with it. I even agree with you on the fact that it shouldn't be flying in Charleston. But if someone in Charleston wants to hang one on their own house, I support their decision. Apple can express their opinion all they want, and I also can express mine criticizing theirs. That's why I love freedom of expression. And the awesome thing about the free market is people can vote with their money where they want. Personally I don't use the Apple Store, so regarding the Apple ban itself, I don't have a horse in this race. But just like them, and just like you, I can express how I feel on this subject and the surrounding debate. Some people are asking for a condo on Mars. People asking for something isn't the bar for it to be treated with any credibility. There is no credible efforts to ban the flag, it's just a stupid thing to talk about. A way to distract from the actual issues. On July 01 2015 05:58 GreenHorizons wrote:
As if anyone who wants one of the flags can't still easily find one? It's not like China gives a shit about whether it is offensive or not.
People are just being outright stupid about this. oBlade pretty much hit the nail on the head, but there's a lot of towns where your only alternative to Walmart for some of the goods it sells is dozens of miles away, if not more. And a lot of that open space is in formerly Confederate areas where people like that kind of merchandise. Sure on paper you could find one, but unless you sail to China or break into a warehouse, it's not going to be easy for people in those areas. Boooohoooo, people can't buy their racist flags on their weekly trip to Walmart, whatever will they do. They might have to special order one using the internet, the place where you can order a full body cat suit or replica of the gun from Blade Runner. The suffering and inconvenience. http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/06/24/amazon-bans-confederate-flags-still-sells-nazi-merchandise/http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/22/politics/confederate-flag-walmart-south-carolina/Sales of three versions of the flag were up 1,670% to 2,305% over a period of 24 hours, according to Amazon data. One of those flags, priced at $1.80 plus shipping, is currently the ninth best-selling item in the Patio, Lawn & Garden department and the top-selling item among all outdoor flags and banners sold on Amazon. I kinda wish I had some flags to sell. Sounds like people are getting what they want before they stop carrying it. I hear sales of Disney movies got up when are put into the vault too. A nice little confederate flag Truck 'parade' in Georgia too. It is absolutely pathetic that the Flag is what got all the attention from TL and actually inspired a noted member to post about it. If it weren't for the people trying to speak sense to those who are clearly clueless I'd just lose all hope for TL. It's the internet, its filled with all sorts and free market worshiping conservatives love it here. When people liked to a rag like clickbait Breitbart, you know who you're talking to. Seriously, Buzzfeed is better that that shit hole.
How is the article I linked clickbait? The article is called "Amazon Bans Confederate Flags, Still Sells Nazi Merchandise". It then links to Amazon's decision to remove all Confederate flags from its sales, and links to some Nazi merchandise which, other than the Einsatz sign, are still up. There is literally no embellishment in the title.
But keep up those strawman arguments, I'm sure they'll amount to something eventually.
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On July 01 2015 07:07 Simberto wrote:
And if you really, honestly need a confederate flag, and absolutely no one is willing to sell one to you, you can still buy some red, white and blue cloth, a needle, and twirn. (Btw, this is not the case, 30 seconds of google gave me three seperate different places to order a confederate flag from. So you will not need to go without one.)
I could only find the stars and bars.
No way to prove it, but I think Google might be blocking results for confederate/dixie flag. I could find Nazi/ISIS and anti Nazi/ISIS paraphernalia by looking up the respective flags. I got absolute zero for this one.
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On July 01 2015 04:59 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2015 04:15 rararock wrote:On July 01 2015 03:33 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Personally I believe symbols mean what people want them to mean. The gays used the pink triangle that originally labeled them as sexual deviants in Nazi concentration camps as a symbol of gay pride. If a bunch of people start flying the Confederate flag and saying it means southern pride, and there's enough of them, they're not wrong. Of course for the people who don't believe that, they're not wrong either, because the symbol means something completely different there. But we don't have many people left who believe gays should wear a symbol for public identification.
As for the issue itself, my only opposition to the flag is that flying a symbol of sedition above public or government property isn't right. Other than that, it doesn't really matter. My neighbor can keep a swastika flag or a Confederate flag or an ISIS flag in his house, and as long as he isn't bothering me, more power to him; it's his right. If I want to buy apps or shirts or flags with Confederate symbols, I should have that right, whether I'm just a fan of Civil War history, or I like the south, or I actually want slavery to be reinstated. And the flip side is that if I wear a shirt with a Confederate flag on the street, people have the right to call me a racist if that's how they interpret the message. Nah, southerners claiming the Confederate flag is a symbol of southern pride are wrong now matter how many of them there are. It is a symbol of hate, subjugation and intimidation. It is an evil vile symbol. Southerners are just as wrong claiming it is about cultural pride than Germans would be if they claimed the swastika is a symbol of German pride. The thing is Germany came to terms with their history, the south still has not. So are gays masochists for adopting their concentration camp symbol into one of pride? Granted, it's sometimes inverted, but not always: + Show Spoiler +
LOL! In your example it is the oppressed group taking back the symbol. That is not what is happening with the confederate flag. Black people aren't trying to take back the confederate flag. See my example above with german pride and the swastika for a more relevant comparison.
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On July 01 2015 06:58 JacobShock wrote:
Hearts in the right place, but the complete wrong way to go about it.
What do you mean? A store can sell or not sell anything they please. IMO this IS the right way to go about it.
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On July 01 2015 07:35 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2015 07:07 Simberto wrote:
And if you really, honestly need a confederate flag, and absolutely no one is willing to sell one to you, you can still buy some red, white and blue cloth, a needle, and twirn. (Btw, this is not the case, 30 seconds of google gave me three seperate different places to order a confederate flag from. So you will not need to go without one.) I could only find the stars and bars. No way to prove it, but I think Google might be blocking results for confederate/dixie flag. I could find Nazi/ISIS and anti Nazi/ISIS paraphernalia by looking up the respective flags. I got absolute zero for this one.
Google removed them from their store, as is their right.
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On July 01 2015 07:42 rararock wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2015 04:59 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On July 01 2015 04:15 rararock wrote:On July 01 2015 03:33 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Personally I believe symbols mean what people want them to mean. The gays used the pink triangle that originally labeled them as sexual deviants in Nazi concentration camps as a symbol of gay pride. If a bunch of people start flying the Confederate flag and saying it means southern pride, and there's enough of them, they're not wrong. Of course for the people who don't believe that, they're not wrong either, because the symbol means something completely different there. But we don't have many people left who believe gays should wear a symbol for public identification.
As for the issue itself, my only opposition to the flag is that flying a symbol of sedition above public or government property isn't right. Other than that, it doesn't really matter. My neighbor can keep a swastika flag or a Confederate flag or an ISIS flag in his house, and as long as he isn't bothering me, more power to him; it's his right. If I want to buy apps or shirts or flags with Confederate symbols, I should have that right, whether I'm just a fan of Civil War history, or I like the south, or I actually want slavery to be reinstated. And the flip side is that if I wear a shirt with a Confederate flag on the street, people have the right to call me a racist if that's how they interpret the message. Nah, southerners claiming the Confederate flag is a symbol of southern pride are wrong now matter how many of them there are. It is a symbol of hate, subjugation and intimidation. It is an evil vile symbol. Southerners are just as wrong claiming it is about cultural pride than Germans would be if they claimed the swastika is a symbol of German pride. The thing is Germany came to terms with their history, the south still has not. So are gays masochists for adopting their concentration camp symbol into one of pride? Granted, it's sometimes inverted, but not always: + Show Spoiler + LOL! In your example it is the oppressed group taking back the symbol. That is not what is happening with the confederate flag. Black people aren't trying to take back the confederate flag. See my example above with german pride and the swastika for a more relevant comparison.
At least one does, a man whose ancestor was a cook in the South Carolina army during the Civil War. He does admit it's a minority, but he still supports it:
http://www.cnn.com/videos/world/2015/06/23/confederate-flag-debate-south-carolina-byron-thomas-intv-wrn.cnn
On July 01 2015 07:51 heliusx wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2015 07:35 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On July 01 2015 07:07 Simberto wrote:
And if you really, honestly need a confederate flag, and absolutely no one is willing to sell one to you, you can still buy some red, white and blue cloth, a needle, and twirn. (Btw, this is not the case, 30 seconds of google gave me three seperate different places to order a confederate flag from. So you will not need to go without one.) I could only find the stars and bars. No way to prove it, but I think Google might be blocking results for confederate/dixie flag. I could find Nazi/ISIS and anti Nazi/ISIS paraphernalia by looking up the respective flags. I got absolute zero for this one. Google removed them from their store, as is their right.
Of course. I just couldn't find where I could buy one, in 30 seconds or 10 minutes.
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On July 01 2015 07:55 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2015 07:42 rararock wrote:On July 01 2015 04:59 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On July 01 2015 04:15 rararock wrote:On July 01 2015 03:33 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Personally I believe symbols mean what people want them to mean. The gays used the pink triangle that originally labeled them as sexual deviants in Nazi concentration camps as a symbol of gay pride. If a bunch of people start flying the Confederate flag and saying it means southern pride, and there's enough of them, they're not wrong. Of course for the people who don't believe that, they're not wrong either, because the symbol means something completely different there. But we don't have many people left who believe gays should wear a symbol for public identification.
As for the issue itself, my only opposition to the flag is that flying a symbol of sedition above public or government property isn't right. Other than that, it doesn't really matter. My neighbor can keep a swastika flag or a Confederate flag or an ISIS flag in his house, and as long as he isn't bothering me, more power to him; it's his right. If I want to buy apps or shirts or flags with Confederate symbols, I should have that right, whether I'm just a fan of Civil War history, or I like the south, or I actually want slavery to be reinstated. And the flip side is that if I wear a shirt with a Confederate flag on the street, people have the right to call me a racist if that's how they interpret the message. Nah, southerners claiming the Confederate flag is a symbol of southern pride are wrong now matter how many of them there are. It is a symbol of hate, subjugation and intimidation. It is an evil vile symbol. Southerners are just as wrong claiming it is about cultural pride than Germans would be if they claimed the swastika is a symbol of German pride. The thing is Germany came to terms with their history, the south still has not. So are gays masochists for adopting their concentration camp symbol into one of pride? Granted, it's sometimes inverted, but not always: + Show Spoiler + LOL! In your example it is the oppressed group taking back the symbol. That is not what is happening with the confederate flag. Black people aren't trying to take back the confederate flag. See my example above with german pride and the swastika for a more relevant comparison. At least one does, a man whose ancestor was a cook in the South Carolina army during the Civil War. He does admit it's a minority, but he still supports it: http://www.cnn.com/videos/world/2015/06/23/confederate-flag-debate-south-carolina-byron-thomas-intv-wrn.cnnShow nested quote +On July 01 2015 07:51 heliusx wrote:On July 01 2015 07:35 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On July 01 2015 07:07 Simberto wrote:
And if you really, honestly need a confederate flag, and absolutely no one is willing to sell one to you, you can still buy some red, white and blue cloth, a needle, and twirn. (Btw, this is not the case, 30 seconds of google gave me three seperate different places to order a confederate flag from. So you will not need to go without one.) I could only find the stars and bars. No way to prove it, but I think Google might be blocking results for confederate/dixie flag. I could find Nazi/ISIS and anti Nazi/ISIS paraphernalia by looking up the respective flags. I got absolute zero for this one. Google removed them from their store, as is their right. Of course. I just couldn't find where I could buy one, in 30 seconds or 10 minutes.
You should learn how to internet then. Its not hard, in fact by clicking the "shopping" tab instead of leaving it on the default "Web" tab you worked harder than you needed to.
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On July 01 2015 06:02 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2015 05:55 GreenHorizons wrote:On July 01 2015 05:50 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On July 01 2015 05:30 Plansix wrote:On July 01 2015 05:26 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On July 01 2015 05:21 GreenHorizons wrote:
I think it's stupid to talk about banning it since that's not what people are asking for. From OP:
Apple is removing from the App Store any games or other software featuring the Confederate Flag. This, of course, follows the recent shooting in South Carolina, which triggered a nationwide debate over whether the flag should be flown at government buildings (or anywhere).
I think that last part implies banning. That's called opinion. Apple of of the opinion that the flag is a worthless racist rag that isn't fit to mop of dog poo. Other people have the same opinion. That doesn't mean a law is going to be passed, just people expressing how they feel on the subject. Sorry if that scares you, but that's what freedom of expression is all about. Some people have the opinion it should be banned. Some people are asking for it, which is exactly the opposite of what GreenHorizons said. I don't have any problem with this opinion, and I even respect the right of people who whole this opinion, I just disagree with it. I even agree with you on the fact that it shouldn't be flying in Charleston. But if someone in Charleston wants to hang one on their own house, I support their decision. Apple can express their opinion all they want, and I also can express mine criticizing theirs. That's why I love freedom of expression. And the awesome thing about the free market is people can vote with their money where they want. Personally I don't use the Apple Store, so regarding the Apple ban itself, I don't have a horse in this race. But just like them, and just like you, I can express how I feel on this subject and the surrounding debate. Some people are asking for a condo on Mars. People asking for something isn't the bar for it to be treated with any credibility. There is no credible efforts to ban the flag, it's just a stupid thing to talk about. A way to distract from the actual issues. Show nested quote +On July 01 2015 05:58 GreenHorizons wrote:
As if anyone who wants one of the flags can't still easily find one? It's not like China gives a shit about whether it is offensive or not.
People are just being outright stupid about this. oBlade pretty much hit the nail on the head, but there's a lot of towns where your only alternative to Walmart for some of the goods it sells is dozens of miles away, if not more. And a lot of that open space is in formerly Confederate areas where people like that kind of merchandise. Sure on paper you could find one, but unless you sail to China or break into a warehouse, it's not going to be easy for people in those areas.
There's a constitutionally protected (per the SCOTUS) right to get an abortion, and yet primarily Southern states are making it far more difficult to get one of those than your completely unprotected right to find a specific flag at a retail outlet.
You can't get abortions mailed to you in case you were curious.
Of course. I just couldn't find where I could buy one, in 30 seconds or 10 minutes.
Haha jesus I provided a google link to this like ten pages ago and it took me about 30 seconds. Shouldn't surprise me that folks defending the CBS are bad at finding information though.
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On July 01 2015 08:07 FHDH wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2015 06:02 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On July 01 2015 05:55 GreenHorizons wrote:On July 01 2015 05:50 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On July 01 2015 05:30 Plansix wrote:On July 01 2015 05:26 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On July 01 2015 05:21 GreenHorizons wrote:
I think it's stupid to talk about banning it since that's not what people are asking for. From OP:
Apple is removing from the App Store any games or other software featuring the Confederate Flag. This, of course, follows the recent shooting in South Carolina, which triggered a nationwide debate over whether the flag should be flown at government buildings (or anywhere).
I think that last part implies banning. That's called opinion. Apple of of the opinion that the flag is a worthless racist rag that isn't fit to mop of dog poo. Other people have the same opinion. That doesn't mean a law is going to be passed, just people expressing how they feel on the subject. Sorry if that scares you, but that's what freedom of expression is all about. Some people have the opinion it should be banned. Some people are asking for it, which is exactly the opposite of what GreenHorizons said. I don't have any problem with this opinion, and I even respect the right of people who whole this opinion, I just disagree with it. I even agree with you on the fact that it shouldn't be flying in Charleston. But if someone in Charleston wants to hang one on their own house, I support their decision. Apple can express their opinion all they want, and I also can express mine criticizing theirs. That's why I love freedom of expression. And the awesome thing about the free market is people can vote with their money where they want. Personally I don't use the Apple Store, so regarding the Apple ban itself, I don't have a horse in this race. But just like them, and just like you, I can express how I feel on this subject and the surrounding debate. Some people are asking for a condo on Mars. People asking for something isn't the bar for it to be treated with any credibility. There is no credible efforts to ban the flag, it's just a stupid thing to talk about. A way to distract from the actual issues. On July 01 2015 05:58 GreenHorizons wrote:
As if anyone who wants one of the flags can't still easily find one? It's not like China gives a shit about whether it is offensive or not.
People are just being outright stupid about this. oBlade pretty much hit the nail on the head, but there's a lot of towns where your only alternative to Walmart for some of the goods it sells is dozens of miles away, if not more. And a lot of that open space is in formerly Confederate areas where people like that kind of merchandise. Sure on paper you could find one, but unless you sail to China or break into a warehouse, it's not going to be easy for people in those areas. There's a constitutionally protected (per the SCOTUS) right to get an abortion, and yet primarily Southern states are making it far more difficult to get one of those than your completely unprotected right to find a specific flag at a retail outlet.
Okay great, we actually do need stronger federal laws defending and expanding women's rights to abort, although stronger federal oversight where states' rights are concerned might be touchy as state laws did give us gay marriage and marijuana legalization in the states that wanted it before it was made legal nationwide (at least in the former case). What does that have to do with the sale of Confederate flags?
You can't get abortions mailed to you in case you were curious. Show nested quote +Of course. I just couldn't find where I could buy one, in 30 seconds or 10 minutes. Haha jesus I provided a google link to this like ten pages ago and it took me about 30 seconds. Shouldn't surprise me that folks defending the CBS are bad at finding information though.
See usually in the few times I've had to look up products online, I can use a major retailer like Amazon and Ebay. It's a bit new for me.
Two of the sites are out of stock. The other one's selling 3x5 flags for $100. I'd say they're doing pretty well for themselves.
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Okay great, we actually do need stronger federal laws defending and expanding women's rights to abort, although stronger federal oversight where states' rights are concerned might be touchy as state laws did give us gay marriage and marijuana legalization in the states that wanted it before it was made legal nationwide (at least in the former case). What does that have to do with the sale of Confederate flags?
One is constitutionally protected, the other isn't. Guess which is more easy to get in the South?
Two of the sites are out of stock. The other one's selling 3x5 flags for $100. I'd say they're doing pretty well for themselves.
Yes and guns/ammo sales skyrocket every time there is a mass shooting.
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As I said before, the same goes for Disney movies every time they are going into the vault.
Also, what is the problem? Stores don't carry a product any more and people act like their rights are being infringed upon. I can't buy new SNESs anymore without going the shady bootleg route.
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On July 01 2015 08:25 FHDH wrote:Show nested quote +Okay great, we actually do need stronger federal laws defending and expanding women's rights to abort, although stronger federal oversight where states' rights are concerned might be touchy as state laws did give us gay marriage and marijuana legalization in the states that wanted it before it was made legal nationwide (at least in the former case). What does that have to do with the sale of Confederate flags? One is constitutionally protected, the other isn't. Guess which is more easy to get in the South?
I still don't understand what your point is. Why can't we have both?
Two of the sites are out of stock. The other one's selling 3x5 flags for $100. I'd say they're doing pretty well for themselves.
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Right but Walmart doesn't start banning bullets until after they start to have the shortage in supply. This time it's the other way around.
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I still don't understand what your point is. Why can't we have both?
You can. But not from WalMart because they decided to stop selling them.
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Walmart also doesn't carry every brand of gun on the planet in every store. And they don't carry this flag any more.
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