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Although this thread does not function under the same strict guidelines as the USPMT, it is still a general practice on TL to provide a source with an explanation on why it is relevant and what purpose it adds to the discussion. Failure to do so will result in a mod action.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
May 17 2022 01:10 GMT
#1801
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Flaccid
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
8921 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-05-18 16:03:28
May 18 2022 14:43 GMT
#1802
On May 17 2022 10:10 JimmiC wrote:
I am glad our conservatives are fighting to distance themselves from the white replacememt theory instead of promoting it like Tucker Carlson and a few Republicans.

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canada/conservatives-condemn-racist-conspiracy-theory-attack-each-other-over-buffalo-shooting/ar-AAXlTNX?li=AAggNb9


Except then you have Poopy Pants Poilievre talking about how people like him because he uses "Ango-Saxon" words. Really though, besides that being some kind of nuclear powered dog whistle, does it mean he just walks around quoting the original text of Beowulf all day? What an absolute clown.

Don't let Canadian Conservatives off the hook here. They aren't any better than the people going on Tucker Carlson to shout their bullshit views. It's all there - they just do it a bit more quietly.

edit: fwiw: https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/article-the-danger-pierre-poilievres-corrosive-campaign-poses-to-canada/
I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
May 18 2022 16:56 GMT
#1803
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17791 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-05-22 23:26:52
May 22 2022 23:19 GMT
#1804
43 years ago today Joe Clark became the 16th PM of Canada. He had 35.89% of the popular vote while P.E.T. garnered 40.11% of the popular vote. Ed Broadbent did a nice job with the NDP.

Watching these 3 guys speak and debate it saddens me to see how far the intelligence of the political discourse has dropped. Clark, P.E.T., and Broadbent were absolutely brilliant.

I met Broadbent + Show Spoiler +
in the Rabba Fine Foods under Net Effect ( best SC PC-Bang in Canada), Yonge and Isabella
several years ago. I said "hello sir, are you Ed Broadbent?". He didn't skip a beat and instantly fired back "No, I'm Joe Clark". Mr. Broadbent and the guy with him and I laughed hard. This guy's stage/room presence was off the charts. All it took was 1 line and Broadbent could control a room.

Canada was in such good hands back then.

I'd like to see the compensation packages for Canadian politicians be reworked so that the country's greatest minds desire to become PM, Finance Minister, Leader of the Opp., Premier, Health Minister, etc etc. I do not how to accomplish that though. I think it will take a brilliant visionary to enact such a change.

Compared to Bill Davis, and P.E.T. ... guys like Justin Trudeau and Doug Ford are intellectual lightweights.

Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Flaccid
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
8921 Posts
May 26 2022 19:06 GMT
#1805
On May 23 2022 08:19 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
43 years ago today Joe Clark became the 16th PM of Canada.


No one cares about 43 years ago, boomer.
I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17791 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-06-04 01:08:42
June 04 2022 01:00 GMT
#1806
I'd prefer to see the NDP return to its roots as a party representing average working Canadians. The NDP has evolved into a collection of special interest groups rather than a party for working people. It cost them the Ontario election and Horvath her job.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/ontario-election-doug-ford-pc-majority-win-1.6471963

Even more remarkable — and something that should worry the NDP and its next leader — was the success of the PC pitch to workers. The party succeeded in capturing such ridings as Windsor-Tecumseh and Essex in the heart of the auto sector, Hamilton East-Stoney Creek in Ontario's Steeltown, and Timmins, a major centre for mining.


Compared to Rae, Broadbent, and Layton .... Andrea Horvath is an intellectual lightweight. She failed the working people of Ontario. Good move by her to resign.

Hydro never should've been privatized. Again, that's on the NDP. This is the party representing the perspective that the private sector isn't always better. Better NDP leadership never would've let it happen.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17791 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-06-28 21:27:17
June 28 2022 15:01 GMT
#1807
Solid Covid response by Canada. Not so solid grammar by Canada's biggest media outlet. LOL.

"Canada's COVID-19 response was more effective then other G7 nations: new study"

Let's see how fast they correct this.
On May 27 2022 04:06 Flaccid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2022 08:19 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
43 years ago today Joe Clark became the 16th PM of Canada.

No one cares about 43 years ago, boomer.

so like when Terry Fox ran half way across Canada on one leg before getting lung cancer 40+ years ago... "no one cares"?
I disagree.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14203 Posts
June 29 2022 08:16 GMT
#1808
People understand that you're saying kids these days are stupid compared to when it was back in your day. You're not that clever and we're not any dumber than back then.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17791 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-07-08 18:22:23
July 08 2022 18:14 GMT
#1809
what in the fuck is going on man?
https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/rogers-outage-cell-mobile-wifi-1.6514373

Government services including already bottlenecked passport offices, Service Canada, Public Services and Procurement Canada and the Canada Revenue Agency are also affected.

The Canadian Border Services Agency says the ArriveCan app is disabled as a result of the outage, and as a result anyone arriving in Canada will have to have a paper copy of their vaccination status.

Internet provider TekSavvy, which buys access to the Rogers network on the wholesale level and then resells it to customers, tweeted from its online help account that its own services were down and there is "no ETA" about when it might be restored.

The Confederation Bridge between P.E.I. and New Brunswick reported that it has lost the ability to process debit payments, and is currently only accepting cash, credit or gift cards in exchange for payment.


My customers in the GTA, Waterloo, Guelph and London all went down around 4 am EST. That seems to coincide with the graph provided in the article.

The rogers people i know have no 911 access. Rogers claims 911 works. LOL.
Under CRTC rules in place since 2017, telecom networks are supposed to ensure that cellphones are able to contact 911 even if they do not have service.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17791 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-09-28 23:40:40
September 28 2022 22:41 GMT
#1810
50 years ago today the Soviet Union used superiority in sport as propaganda for the supremacy of communism. On September 28, 1972 it was communism versus capitalism on ice...

the emotion and urgency in Foster Hewitt's voice.... just wow.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehvzTvsnFoMc

I strongly prefer Ken Dryden to Justin Trudeau as a leader for Canada. Its a cryin' shame he left politics. How the Liberals gave more support to Dion and Ignatieff when Dryden was running for the leadership of the party ... I'll never understand.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17791 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-10-18 08:51:03
October 18 2022 08:47 GMT
#1811
An interesting look at Quebec nationalism....
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/02/world/canada/quebec-election-francois-legault.html

“If Quebec society wanted to perpetuate its French Canadian identity,” he said, “all it needed to do was have more children.”


I suggest: never put your energy in any nationalist movement. Vote with your feet
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17791 Posts
October 25 2022 20:38 GMT
#1812
With his landslide win on October 24th John Torey is set to become the longest serving Mayor in Toronto's history. Well earned... and well deserved.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17791 Posts
December 21 2022 00:58 GMT
#1813
8 teenage girls swarmed an old homeless guy and committed Toronto's 68th homicide of 2022. 6 of the 8 were either 13 or 14 years old. This event will be an interesting test of the "Youth Criminal Justice Act".

Apparently, they attempted to swarm someone else earlier in the day and failed.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/man-death-eight-teen-girls-charged-toronto-1.6692698
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
December 21 2022 03:10 GMT
#1814
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17791 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-12-21 05:35:08
December 21 2022 05:31 GMT
#1815
On December 21 2022 12:10 JimmiC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2022 09:58 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
8 teenage girls swarmed an old homeless guy and committed Toronto's 68th homicide of 2022. 6 of the 8 were either 13 or 14 years old. This event will be an interesting test of the "Youth Criminal Justice Act".

Apparently, they attempted to swarm someone else earlier in the day and failed.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/man-death-eight-teen-girls-charged-toronto-1.6692698

How will this be an interesting test?

Because 2nd degree murder is an extremely serious crime and age 13 barely qualifies the alleged criminals as "youth". This is not a 17 year old caught joy riding a stolen expensive sports car. So we have edge cases along multiple lines.

Also, the similarity of sentencing aspect of the YCJA will be difficult to apply because not many Canadians aged 12 to 17 commit 2nd degree murder.

https://www.justice.gc.ca/eng/cj-jp/yj-jj/tools-outils/sheets-feuillets/amend-modif.html

Adult Sentences

The YCJA now requires that the Crown consider seeking an adult sentence for youth aged 14 and older who are charged with murder, attempted murder, manslaughter, or aggravated sexual assault. The Crown is also required to advise the court if they choose not to apply for an adult sentence in a case involving one of these serious violent offences.

Provinces and territories have the discretion to set the age at which these Crown obligations apply - from 14 to 16 years of age.


3 of the 8 are under 14. So it'll be interesting to see how the sentencing goes. This will be a very interesting case with results that probably create new precedents.

In 2012, the Harper regime introduced amendments to the YCJA to give judges the ability to hand out adult-type sentences to youths committing murder.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Taelshin
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada420 Posts
December 21 2022 08:35 GMT
#1816
Not sure what to think. I'd go hard with sentencing i think but man 13 is so young. Have to wonder what landed them in the position to do such a thing.
"We didnt listen"
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
December 21 2022 14:05 GMT
#1817
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killa_robot
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada1884 Posts
December 21 2022 14:46 GMT
#1818
On December 21 2022 09:58 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
8 teenage girls swarmed an old homeless guy and committed Toronto's 68th homicide of 2022. 6 of the 8 were either 13 or 14 years old. This event will be an interesting test of the "Youth Criminal Justice Act".

Apparently, they attempted to swarm someone else earlier in the day and failed.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/man-death-eight-teen-girls-charged-toronto-1.6692698


Lets be real here man. This is Canada. The longest any of those girls will stay in jail is 5 years, and I would bet the ones under 14 won't even go to jail. Our justice system is a joke.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
December 21 2022 16:14 GMT
#1819
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17791 Posts
December 22 2022 00:48 GMT
#1820
On December 21 2022 23:46 killa_robot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2022 09:58 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
8 teenage girls swarmed an old homeless guy and committed Toronto's 68th homicide of 2022. 6 of the 8 were either 13 or 14 years old. This event will be an interesting test of the "Youth Criminal Justice Act".

Apparently, they attempted to swarm someone else earlier in the day and failed.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/man-death-eight-teen-girls-charged-toronto-1.6692698


Lets be real here man. This is Canada. The longest any of those girls will stay in jail is 5 years, and I would bet the ones under 14 won't even go to jail. Our justice system is a joke.

the problem is...
If you stiffen up sentences you must pair it with substantial rehabilitation. That is very , very expensive and no one wants to spend the money to do such a thing. It is the best long term solution... its also , by far, the most expensive.

If you stiffen up the sentencing while offering nothing solid rehab-wise then you end up steering soft criminals towards a path of evolving into hardened criminals.
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