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tshi
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2495 Posts
February 28 2015 08:19 GMT
#181
does anyone have the RAW file to change the white balance around?

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xM(Z
Profile Joined November 2006
Romania5281 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-28 08:30:09
February 28 2015 08:28 GMT
#182
yea, people "seeing" black in that pic are such conformist tools.

shit is fake anyway because it's not about the white lighting (contrast/brightness) but about color filters added on top/below(behind) the dress which literally change its color.
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Orcasgt24
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada3238 Posts
February 28 2015 08:47 GMT
#183
On February 28 2015 17:28 xM(Z wrote:
yea, people "seeing" black in that pic are such conformist tools.

shit is fake anyway because it's not about the white lighting (contrast/brightness) but about color filters added on top/below(behind) the dress which literally change its color.

I see black because that's what my eyes see. That makes me a conformist tool? Sounds like your completely unwilling to admit that a low quality photo with a bright background to the right and a dark on on the left can result in human eyes filtering the light reflecting off the picture differently.

Or you are just a conformist tool for seeing white. Probably this one
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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20285 Posts
February 28 2015 09:01 GMT
#184
On February 28 2015 17:47 Orcasgt24 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2015 17:28 xM(Z wrote:
yea, people "seeing" black in that pic are such conformist tools.

shit is fake anyway because it's not about the white lighting (contrast/brightness) but about color filters added on top/below(behind) the dress which literally change its color.

I see black because that's what my eyes see. That makes me a conformist tool? Sounds like your completely unwilling to admit that a low quality photo with a bright background to the right and a dark on on the left can result in human eyes filtering the light reflecting off the picture differently.

Or you are just a conformist tool for seeing white. Probably this one


The pixels themselves are a goldish color, even if you perceive blue + dark (i do sometimes, flicked back and forth like 8 times yesterday) then you'll see blue with kinda goldish dark color
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xM(Z
Profile Joined November 2006
Romania5281 Posts
February 28 2015 09:47 GMT
#185
On February 28 2015 17:47 Orcasgt24 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2015 17:28 xM(Z wrote:
yea, people "seeing" black in that pic are such conformist tools.

shit is fake anyway because it's not about the white lighting (contrast/brightness) but about color filters added on top/below(behind) the dress which literally change its color.

I see black because that's what my eyes see. That makes me a conformist tool? Sounds like your completely unwilling to admit that a low quality photo with a bright background to the right and a dark on on the left can result in human eyes filtering the light reflecting off the picture differently.

Or you are just a conformist tool for seeing white. Probably this one

(first, i like to note that i specifically said it's not about brightness but about color filters that filter certain colors out).
to your point now: yes, that is impossible. all eyes (unless injured/sick/with issues or something) filter light the same way. it's the same organ. if i capture the reflection of that picture on your retina i'll show you it's not black. i'll show you that you don't "see" it black.
so, your the perception is skewed psychologically and has nothing to do with the eyes.

i don't see white. i see blue/gold-gray-ish
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WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
February 28 2015 09:52 GMT
#186
Yeah, I'm pretty sure that no one actually sees "white" or "black" there. They either see a darkish-brown and assume it's a washed out black, or they see a lightish-blue and assume it's white that's tinted by shadows.

It's a trick of context as much as it is perception.
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PoP
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
France15446 Posts
February 28 2015 10:12 GMT
#187
On February 28 2015 18:52 WolfintheSheep wrote:
Yeah, I'm pretty sure that no one actually sees "white" or "black" there. They either see a darkish-brown and assume it's a washed out black, or they see a lightish-blue and assume it's white that's tinted by shadows.

It's a trick of context as much as it is perception.


This.

I strongly believe the dress is black by looking at it but obviously the perceived color isn't perfect black, more like goldish dark, but the goldish part (to us) seems obviously due to the lighting.
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Sbrubbles
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil5776 Posts
February 28 2015 10:17 GMT
#188
I do find it funny how a lot of people get extremely angry at the discussion itself. I found the whole mess to be kinda fun. Also, it's white and gold (though I can understand the white has a certain blue-ish glow to it).
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Umpteen
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom1570 Posts
February 28 2015 10:24 GMT
#189
On February 28 2015 14:10 ElMeanYo wrote:
The screenshot in the OP is white/gold. If you think otherwise, your monitor is not calibrated correctly and you need to do some adjustments.


Erm. No. You're being inconsistent. You're saying it's gold because the pixels contain yellow, right? Then by that standard the 'white' is blue, because the pixels are blue - pretty much as as blue as the by-lines in this thread.

Nobody is 'seeing' black and blue, in the sense of what light is entering their eyes. Nor is anybody 'seeing' white and gold. Our brains are interpreting what we see according to the assumptions they're making about the prevailing light in the scene. Different assumptions = different perception of colour.

The dress is, in fact, black and blue. That's not in doubt. I perceive it as black and blue (apart from a couple of seconds last night when I glanced at the screen and saw white/gold).
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Umpteen
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom1570 Posts
February 28 2015 10:25 GMT
#190
On February 28 2015 19:17 Sbrubbles wrote:
I do find it funny how a lot of people get extremely angry at the discussion itself. I found the whole mess to be kinda fun. Also, it's white and gold (though I can understand the white has a certain blue-ish glow to it).


The dress is, according to the person who took the picture and the websites selling the dress, black and blue.
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Sbrubbles
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil5776 Posts
February 28 2015 10:30 GMT
#191
On February 28 2015 19:25 Umpteen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2015 19:17 Sbrubbles wrote:
I do find it funny how a lot of people get extremely angry at the discussion itself. I found the whole mess to be kinda fun. Also, it's white and gold (though I can understand the white has a certain blue-ish glow to it).


The dress is, according to the person who took the picture and the websites selling the dress, black and blue.


Yes, I know. I meant to say I see it as white and gold
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Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-28 10:35:40
February 28 2015 10:34 GMT
#192
On February 28 2015 19:17 Sbrubbles wrote:
I do find it funny how a lot of people get extremely angry at the discussion itself. I found the whole mess to be kinda fun. Also, it's white and gold (though I can understand the white has a certain blue-ish glow to it).


Yeah, same. The whole thing was pretty fascinating to me, both the actual dress color issue and the fact something as mundane can get viral so insanely fast.

Edit: I suppose I can add to the whole thing by saying that it looks sky blue and gold-brown to me.
SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
February 28 2015 10:35 GMT
#193
Personally, I first saw it as white + gold, then I saw it at black and blue.

There are tons of videos saying that it's blue and black. I think OP can edit videos from DNews, ASAP Science, and Computerphile. I doubt there's nothing more to discuss and people can just go spam this thread.
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Advantageous
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
China1350 Posts
February 28 2015 10:40 GMT
#194
all i see is grey and grey. I'm colorblind
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RookerS
Profile Joined May 2013
Ivory Coast75 Posts
February 28 2015 10:54 GMT
#195
seriously how can people say its white? the tl background colour is white? can you not see the difference in the colour of the tl background and the blue of the dress? i aint no eye scientist but im pretty sure i can see properly
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GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23212 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-28 11:32:15
February 28 2015 11:17 GMT
#196
On February 28 2015 19:34 Talin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2015 19:17 Sbrubbles wrote:
I do find it funny how a lot of people get extremely angry at the discussion itself. I found the whole mess to be kinda fun. Also, it's white and gold (though I can understand the white has a certain blue-ish glow to it).


Yeah, same. The whole thing was pretty fascinating to me, both the actual dress color issue and the fact something as mundane can get viral so insanely fast.

Edit: I suppose I can add to the whole thing by saying that it looks sky blue and gold-brown to me.


I'm thinking about writing a blog about why this is the most amazing thing that will probably happen this year maybe this decade.

Not the dress itself but how the dress/picture exposed something on such a viral level. And not like Gangnam style.

People still don't seem to realize but the way this phenomena has crystallized the way we come to conclusions, skepticism of facts and science, our inclination toward conspiracy theories, our cynicism, our apathy, our rage, and so much more, in such a simple and concise issue is potentially revolutionary.

Most people have discussed this issue with other people. Think about how the people you have asked about it reacted to the whole phenomena, then think about how they interpret other controversial issues in their lives...

EXAMPLES:

Did they see what they saw/see and conclude 'it is what I see' other peoples explanations and perceptions be damned ("They must be trolling, color blind, settings screwy, defective, etc...)

Did they see a dress/optical illusion easily explained and immediately say/think "this is stupid I'm not even going to think about this thing Please make it go away there is nothing to be learned here!" or "Here's the science stupids now go back to your day"?

Did they see both and try to mediate heated arguments about whether someone's brain/monitor/eyes were defective or convince someone that they weren't trolling when they said they can only see white and gold or blue and black or orange


I suspect their reaction says a lot about how they tend to interact with other information.

EDIT: I'm not putting anyone on blast but you could look at posters in this thread and then look at other controversial issues and see the pattern I'm describing.
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Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4133 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-28 12:00:11
February 28 2015 11:59 GMT
#197
I found it in a german magazine today. They explained both scenarios. The gold/white color happens exactly this if you consider the background and where this dress is. Exactly like I said yesterday.
On February 27 2015 23:55 Dingodile wrote:
I (still) only see gold/white as real colour of this dress. This white tends to be dark white & very lightly violet because she stays at sun-shade.


blue/dark is if you can ignore the very light background (in your brain too). I cant see it and I even did it with photoshop (background black, dress stays intact). Doesnt work either. I think I should stop go outside if we have excellent weather (as in that picture) to see this picture as blue/black finally.
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graNite
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany4434 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-28 12:06:20
February 28 2015 12:05 GMT
#198
A friend of mine has an MSc in Neuroscience and he wrote a blogpost about this (english) click
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KobraKay
Profile Joined March 2010
Portugal4231 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-28 12:14:15
February 28 2015 12:12 GMT
#199
This is disgusting T_T....in the pick in the OP I see black and blue...a friend of mine showed me the pic from another website on her phone and it was clearly white and goldish/leaf greenish.

On the news website that she took the picture from, seeing it on my work computer (I am now browsing TL on my personal computer) it was also black and blue. I would be fine with this saying to myself "well she took the picture from a strange angle and it changed the light etc and I saw it as white and when looking at the computer I see always black and blue"...however, 5 people that were with me did not change their position changing from the phone to the website and back again....the only time they saw blue was in the photoshop'd pic (with REALLLYYYY dark blue).

This is what intrigues me the most, if each of us changed their position based on the device their were looking at, I would be fine, but my other friends didn't, only two of us thought we were looking at 2 different pictures, the other 5 only saw white in every device.
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Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4133 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-28 12:35:48
February 28 2015 12:13 GMT
#200
On February 28 2015 19:54 RookerS wrote:
seriously how can people say its white? the tl background colour is white? can you not see the difference in the colour of the tl background and the blue of the dress? i aint no eye scientist but im pretty sure i can see properly

We are discussing about real colours of this dress. Tell me how you see it as blue/black in what background. Example: You see a clear and gaudy white t-shirt in a excellent weather (only sun, 40+°C). If you see that t-shirt under a sunshade, it can tends to a dark white with light blue/violet colour. This is my experience, it didnt took 1sec to notice that context/background for me.
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