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WhiteDog
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France8650 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-08 19:42:31
January 08 2015 19:38 GMT
#1141
On January 09 2015 04:33 Husnan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2015 04:33 Aeromi wrote:
No religion bash/war. Thanks.


Let's discuss religious terrorism without mentionning religion.

It's men that make religion, and not the other way around.
Discuss the world at large, the reasons as to why such men can appear in our society, and not the religion or the texts in itself because it's a trap that leads nowhere.

To be clear, I'm perfectly fine with anti religions discourses, but for the right reasons.
"every time WhiteDog overuses the word "seriously" in a comment I can make an observation on his fragile emotional state." MoltkeWarding
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
January 08 2015 19:44 GMT
#1142
the french republic is giving too much credit to the religious representative in the political area, i don't understand why they are invited by the president tbh
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
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WhiteDog
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France8650 Posts
January 08 2015 19:45 GMT
#1143
On January 09 2015 04:44 Makro wrote:
the french republic is giving too much credit to the religious representative in the political area, i don't understand why they are invited by the president tbh

You're so right, I'm so bored with it. I feel insulted. What the fuck does the french muslim council and the CRIF have to do with the attack on Charlie ? It's the Republic, and all the citizens that are attacked.
"every time WhiteDog overuses the word "seriously" in a comment I can make an observation on his fragile emotional state." MoltkeWarding
Husnan
Profile Joined November 2010
France298 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-08 19:48:46
January 08 2015 19:46 GMT
#1144
On January 09 2015 04:38 WhiteDog wrote:
It's men that make religion, and not the other way around.


Religious people wouldn't agree with you on that one.

On January 09 2015 04:38 WhiteDog wrote:Discuss the world at large, the reasons as to why such men can appear in our society, and not the religion or the texts in itself because it's a trap that leads nowhere.

To be clear, I'm perfectly fine with anti religions discourses, but for the right reasons.


The reasons as to why such men can appear in our society are real easy :
- they're psychopaths/sociopaths,
- they believe God wants them to do whatever it is that they do.

Since I know of no way of preventing psychos from being born, I focus my energy on what we can improve upon : preventing people from believing in retarded bullshit.

Edit :

On January 09 2015 04:45 WhiteDog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2015 04:44 Makro wrote:
the french republic is giving too much credit to the religious representative in the political area, i don't understand why they are invited by the president tbh

You're so right, I'm so bored with it. I feel insulted. What the fuck does the french muslim council and the CRIF have to do with the attack on Charlie ? It's the Republic, and all the citizens that are attacked.


Agree whole-heartedly with you on that one. But it's not just politics, it's the media too. "Here to discuss gay marriage, Monseigneur Kidfiddler"... Sound familiar?
You see what happens, Larry? You see what happens when you fuck a stranger in the ass?
WhiteDog
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France8650 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-08 19:55:21
January 08 2015 19:49 GMT
#1145
On January 09 2015 04:46 Husnan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2015 04:38 WhiteDog wrote:
It's men that make religion, and not the other way around.

Religious people wouldn't agree with you on that one.

Religious people are victims most of the time : they didn't chose their religion, the world picked it for them.

Show nested quote +
On January 09 2015 04:38 WhiteDog wrote:Discuss the world at large, the reasons as to why such men can appear in our society, and not the religion or the texts in itself because it's a trap that leads nowhere.

To be clear, I'm perfectly fine with anti religions discourses, but for the right reasons.


The reasons as to why such men can appear in our society are real easy :
- they're psychopaths/sociopaths,
- they believe God wants them to do whatever it is that they do.

Since I know of no way of preventing psychos from being born, I focus my energy on what we can improve upon : preventing people from believing in retarded bullshit.

I disagree, they're not psychopath at all.

Show nested quote +
On January 09 2015 04:45 WhiteDog wrote:
On January 09 2015 04:44 Makro wrote:
the french republic is giving too much credit to the religious representative in the political area, i don't understand why they are invited by the president tbh

You're so right, I'm so bored with it. I feel insulted. What the fuck does the french muslim council and the CRIF have to do with the attack on Charlie ? It's the Republic, and all the citizens that are attacked.


Agree whole-heartedly with you on that one. But it's not just politics, it's the media too. "Here to discuss gay marriage, Monseigneur Kidfiddler"... Sound familiar?

Of course, it's the media, it's the politicians, it's also us accepting young people to label themselves as "muslim" or "jew" like it's some kind of opposition to being "french".
We're way too tolerant with religious or ethnical identities, so much that we've forgotten that the republic is a transcendental, more inclusive value than any particularism.
"every time WhiteDog overuses the word "seriously" in a comment I can make an observation on his fragile emotional state." MoltkeWarding
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
January 08 2015 19:52 GMT
#1146
On January 09 2015 04:45 WhiteDog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2015 04:44 Makro wrote:
the french republic is giving too much credit to the religious representative in the political area, i don't understand why they are invited by the president tbh

You're so right, I'm so bored with it. I feel insulted. What the fuck does the french muslim council and the CRIF have to do with the attack on Charlie ? It's the Republic, and all the citizens that are attacked.

when you see hollande with all of this religious representative it's like you have 5 differents france in one france, i just wish someone end this farce
there is one thing : the republic, and nothing else
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
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Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
January 08 2015 19:56 GMT
#1147
Psychopathology is a purely physical condition, it's an observable anomaly most commonly found in the frontal lobes. The odds that these guys fit the medical criteria for psychopathology are very low. This is very likely behaviour driven by a strongly held representation of a possible state of the universe; that there is a supreme being who has decreed that this is the most morally salient behaviour possible given the circumstances.
"Digital. They have digital. What is digital?" - Donald J Trump
Ishentar
Profile Joined February 2014
France122 Posts
January 08 2015 19:56 GMT
#1148
A car exploded in Villejuif, France, thanksfully it appears that there is no casualty

http://www.lemonde.fr/societe/live/2015/01/07/en-direct-des-coups-de-feu-au-siege-de-charlie-hebdo_4550635_3224.html
Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14463 Posts
January 08 2015 19:57 GMT
#1149
Huge explosion in Villejuif, a city close to Paris : https://www.facebook.com/lemonde.fr/posts/10153039067397590
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ZeromuS
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada13431 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-08 20:02:17
January 08 2015 19:59 GMT
#1150
Stop debating the merits of religion.

That isn't what this thread is for.

Please.

Also, no more casual racism/bigotry/islamophobia/ whatever the fuck you want to call it. I don't care how many immigrant friends you have, I don't care how "open" you claim to be, please consider the way you say things here and how they come across.

A lot of the posts in this thread are bordering on bigotry and I am trying to sift through it with other mods right now. Making claims about a whole population of people based on poor facts is in fact, not okay. It is also not what the thread is about. This thread is about the happenings in France.
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Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
January 08 2015 20:05 GMT
#1151
On January 09 2015 04:56 Ishentar wrote:
A car exploded in Villejuif, France, thanksfully it appears that there is no casualty

http://www.lemonde.fr/societe/live/2015/01/07/en-direct-des-coups-de-feu-au-siege-de-charlie-hebdo_4550635_3224.html

i think there is a huge paranoia going on right now in france and we are going to see a lot of things like this

Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
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Spaylz
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Japan1743 Posts
January 08 2015 20:07 GMT
#1152
The movement of solidarity for Charlie Hebdo is heartwarming. I'm glad to hear they're receiving a significant donation, and that they'll be publishing again next week. I'll be sure to go buy it, I suggest my countrymen from TL do the same.

I don't usually buy newspapers, and when I do it's only Le Canard Enchaîné, but I will go out of my way to buy Charlie Hebdo next week. It's the best way to show extremists that we cherish our freedom of press and of speech.
I like words.
Ishentar
Profile Joined February 2014
France122 Posts
January 08 2015 20:11 GMT
#1153
Since the vehicle was parked here for days, it is probably not related to this week shootings.
Jett.Jack.Alvir
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Canada2250 Posts
January 08 2015 20:15 GMT
#1154
On January 07 2015 21:59 heliusx wrote:
Islam is sick, it creates too many lunatics. My condolences to our French allies.

Please don't blame Islam. The actions of a few does not constitute the entire religion. There are fanatics within any religion or even country.

This news is horrible, and I feel sick to my stomach hearing about it.
Ishentar
Profile Joined February 2014
France122 Posts
January 08 2015 20:15 GMT
#1155
Do you know where the next issue will be available in France ? Is it subscription only ? I'm really considering buying it, but I don't know where to get it and when.
Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14463 Posts
January 08 2015 20:17 GMT
#1156
On January 09 2015 05:15 Ishentar wrote:
Do you know where the next issue will be available in France ? Is it subscription only ? I'm really considering buying it, but I don't know where to get it and when.

I think you'll find it everywhere.
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OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
January 08 2015 20:24 GMT
#1157
On January 09 2015 05:17 Aeromi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2015 05:15 Ishentar wrote:
Do you know where the next issue will be available in France ? Is it subscription only ? I'm really considering buying it, but I don't know where to get it and when.

I think you'll find it everywhere.

I even think they'll consider making more than one million copies.
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PineapplePizza
Profile Joined June 2010
United States749 Posts
January 08 2015 20:26 GMT
#1158
Is every big TL news thread going to be an obsessive mod dogpile from now on? I have to sift through countless pages of "don't talk about stuff please" before I find anything connected to the subject.
"There should be no tying a sharp, hard object to your cock like it has a mechanical arm and hitting it with the object or using your cockring to crack the egg. No cyborg penises allowed. 100% flesh only." - semioldguy
Ishentar
Profile Joined February 2014
France122 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-08 20:29:32
January 08 2015 20:28 GMT
#1159
I hope that you're right and that it will be easy to find. Heard all money earned will be given to Charlie & victims family since french stores refused to accept the money from the sales of this issue of Charlie Hebdo.
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
January 08 2015 20:30 GMT
#1160
On January 09 2015 05:26 PineapplePizza wrote:
Is every big TL news thread going to be an obsessive mod dogpile from now on? I have to sift through countless pages of "don't talk about stuff please" before I find anything connected to the subject.

Well with sensitive subjects it's either that or no thread at all tbh
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