EPTOn January 08 2015 08:38 Aeromi wrote:
So, is it confirmed ?
Shots fired at Charlie Hebdo offices - France - Page 38
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Faefae
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r00ty
Germany1099 Posts
On January 08 2015 08:37 mahrgell wrote: You can remove Germany from that. Thanks. The "Sharia police" incident were a handful idiots, in one town, it was a planned provocation, the media jumped for it, because that is what the media does, and everyone felt like they now had to issue a very important speech about it. But absolutely nothing had happened, that really justified that medial overreaction. But then again I was approached at least 3 times during the last year, how I could evade hell etc blabla by christian missionaries, that wanted to teach me the right way. Not once by muslims. Maybe we should throw out all christians! Also, the PEGIDA, which was mentioned already and you might know, in my town of 250k people consists of like 40-50 people, half of them known fascists. It's blown way out of proportion. | ||
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dAPhREAk
Nauru12397 Posts
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Redox
Germany24794 Posts
On January 08 2015 08:35 MrCon wrote: But anyway obviously that doesn't mean they deserved to be attacked, I just wanted to state how hypocritical their stance was (they aren't a satirical newspaper anymore, for some years already, well they are but with a very clear agenda) Oh noes they have an agenda. Who gives a fuck? They have the right to critisize whomever. | ||
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Ishentar
France122 Posts
On January 08 2015 08:40 Faefae wrote: Probably a fake intervention... Or french police is stupid? Hope & think it's the first! Well police isn't organizing a fake intervention just to bait the journalists... I think our police should ask the journalists to stay at hundreds of meter from the intervention... The press must stand with the police and with everyone fighting this ideology but that's not the way they're supposed to do that. | ||
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Makro
France16890 Posts
On January 08 2015 08:44 dAPhREAk wrote: people keep saying "intervention." what does that mean? i'm not sure if the word means the same thing in english but in french it's used for a police/military operation | ||
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Ishentar
France122 Posts
On January 08 2015 08:44 dAPhREAk wrote: people keep saying "intervention." what does that mean? It means that a raid, a military operation, against the terrorists is underway. | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States24459 Posts
On January 08 2015 08:28 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: On one hand I understand the worry of increasing anti-islam movement but on the other I can understand it's support. Look at England, and Germany where groups of Muslims have been caught ticketing and stopping pedestrians telling what they wear, and how talk, even who they are with is a sin and is "unislamic", then saying their beliefs should be respected and culture should be above the home countries laws etc. Meanwhile the ruling government allows this instances to keep happening. That pisses me off and course should piss everyone else that observes this of as well. They have christian versions of that at practically every major event/festival around here (WA State). Bloody Jesus signs and such. Telling everyone they are going to hell because of what they are wearing, thinking, doing, supporting, etc... Some are more aggressive than others but they are all pretty obnoxious. It's a stupid opinion to have for them but I support their right to think and express it so long as they aren't harassing people. I used to engage with them when I was younger but when they consistently had less awareness of the various passages of the Bible than I did it lost it's fun. Governments shouldn't be outlawing it (maybe the ticketing part, not sure what that means) the people confronted should engage when life permits. Not just shout them down either, they should converse just to see who those types of people really are. How long their logic lasts. For instance the first thing I would ask someone like that would be "So you would like it to be the same for westerners in the middle east? That they should stand in the streets and tell people they are "unchristian" and that christian beliefs and culture should be respected and held above the home countries laws?" You'd probably be surprised by some of these kinds of peoples answers. | ||
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SixStrings
Germany2046 Posts
On January 08 2015 08:17 AssyrianKing wrote: Unless France starts growing a backbone & start doing some very serious immigration reforms and quite a bit of deportation, France is stuffed. White French people barely bring enough kids to keep up their population with the muslims Same in Germany, Belgium, Sweden and England. I'm pro immigration, I love that my city has tonnes of Asian students, we have an American village, loads of eastern European workers and everyone is getting along fine with Germans and Turks. In poor, urban areas, however, (Ruhrgebiet, certain parts of Cologne and Berlin) Turkish children already outnumber German children in school by as much as 7:3 and quite often teachers teach in classes in which less than half of the students understand German. Whenever I went out with my Turkish (non Muslim) girlfriend, she would be hissed at by Turkish guys calling her a whore and a traitor in Turkish. The problem is that far-right parties always made immigration their top agenda, so now when any politician talks about immigration, they are labeled as a Nazi. Even to suggest that there might be problem will have the media jump down your throat. | ||
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Makro
France16890 Posts
i don't know how they came to that conclusion, on french news you have nothing like that | ||
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Biff The Understudy
France8216 Posts
On January 08 2015 08:40 SoSexy wrote: It's funny how for you guys nothing is a problem, everyone is super good and respectful, violence episodes are 'media baits' but bombing and attacks actually happen and then you go like 'how could this happen?'. Do you live in the world of magic unicorns? No you are right. You and me, we have a little secret, but don't tell them because there are PC police around. See, the thing is (not too loud): it all because there are too many brown people. They smell a bit. And they are muslims, you know that stuff that says you have to kill people and rape women because. Ok, seriously, look, I see you want absolutely people to go with your xenophonic anti immigration stuff, at any cost in that thread. It's not happening, apparently. Too bad. Next time. | ||
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MrCon
France29748 Posts
On January 08 2015 08:31 Biff The Understudy wrote: If you don't see why laughing at 6 million jews being massacred, inviting negationist Faurisson on stage and being best mate with a neo fascist like Soral is different of laughing at religions for what they are, I am terribly sorry for you. Charlie was a libertarian left wing soixante huitard paper, certainly not neo con and never posted anything hateful about anyone. It mocked religions, all of them, and people committing violence ion their name. You "very funny" humorist is an authentic racist, sentenced several time for incitation to religious hatred. Please don't insult the memory Cabu and Charb by comparing them to this asshole. Thanks. Actually Cabu was defending Dieudonné...but I didn't know him and Wolinsky died today, what a shock  | ||
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kwizach
3658 Posts
On January 08 2015 08:31 Biff The Understudy wrote: If you don't see why laughing at 6 million jews being massacred, inviting negationist Faurisson on stage and being best mate with a neo fascist like Soral is different of laughing at religions for what they are, I am terribly sorry for you. Charlie was a libertarian left wing soixante huitard paper, certainly not neo con and never posted anything hateful about anyone. It mocked religions, all of them, and people committing violence ion their name. You "very funny" humorist is an authentic racist, sentenced several time for incitation to religious hatred. Please don't insult the memory Cabu and Charb by comparing them to this asshole. Thanks. Exactly. Well said. | ||
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Aeromi
France14463 Posts
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Agathon
France1505 Posts
Nothing about it in French newspapers websites so far, something is going on in Reims (the capital of Champagne, 150km NE of Paris), but nothing more accurate at the moment. | ||
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Agathon
France1505 Posts
On January 08 2015 08:44 dAPhREAk wrote: people keep saying "intervention." what does that mean? Police making something potentially dangerous. | ||
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Faefae
2203 Posts
On January 08 2015 08:50 Aeromi wrote: https://twitter.com/RingEditions/status/552974737929175040 Hope it's a reliable source ! | ||
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Doraemon
Australia14949 Posts
On January 08 2015 08:44 Ishentar wrote: Well police isn't organizing a fake intervention just to bait the journalists... I think our police should ask the journalists to stay at hundreds of meter from the intervention... The press must stand with the police and with everyone fighting this ideology but that's not the way they're supposed to do that. same thing happened here in Syd, images would show where the cops were situated | ||
Yhamm
France7248 Posts
On January 08 2015 08:50 Aeromi wrote: https://twitter.com/RingEditions/status/552974737929175040 if RING say so, it must be true! who are they btw? | ||
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heliusx
United States2306 Posts
On January 08 2015 08:47 Biff The Understudy wrote: No you are right. You and me, we have a little secret, but don't tell them because there are PC police around. See, the thing is (not too loud): it all because there are too many brown people. They smell a bit. And they are muslims, you know that stuff that says you have to kill people and rape women because. Ok, seriously, look, I see you want absolutely people to go with your xenophonic anti immigration stuff, at any cost in that thread. It's not happening, apparently. Too bad. Next time. I spent 10 hours at my job, I come back to read this thread, and you're still strawmanning people? We get it you're an immigrant or offspring of immigrants yourself so you take it personally. The problem biff, is not people like you who integrate into society and contribute. It also has nothing to do with skin color so I think you can save that one for another time. | ||
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