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Harris1st
Germany6691 Posts
I do actually believe Chancellor Merz can turn the ship around enough to get revoted. Here is to hopium. Like it was said above, i believe the young voters don't see the retirement problem as big yet. The problems more imminent are what drives them: War, Energy, Immigration, Housing and living costs in no particular order. | ||
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mahrgell
Germany3942 Posts
The left with their one dimensional "eat the rich" campaign could then obviously gobble up many young voters without any contest from the other parties. And while SPD, CDU and Greens had to consider the possibility of actually having to deal with Trump, the Left never had this issue. They are guaranteed opposition anyway. Their campaign statements are of no consequence, their promises never have to be kept. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland23752 Posts
On February 24 2025 21:05 Harris1st wrote: Well, the new government has quite some pressure to not fuck it up completely otherwise the next government will be led by AfD. I do actually believe Chancellor Merz can turn the ship around enough to get revoted. Here is to hopium. Like it was said above, i believe the young voters don't see the retirement problem as big yet. The problems more imminent are what drives them: War, Energy, Immigration, Housing and living costs in no particular order. If Germans are anything like us Brits (sense of humour excepted), yeah this tracks. Folks my age are pretty pissy on much of this, pensions not quite, although gradually as we push into mid 30s and beyond you’re starting to see more attention paid on this. In a crude sense I think a ton of dissatisfaction is due to things very visible and obvious. Oh my mum and dad had free university and I don’t (UK specific perhaps), or were on the property ladder 10 years before me with worse jobs? Or I worked with folks close to retirement age now in retail who bought a house on a single retail income back in the day? I think many here would ideally want things to get better versus what our forebears had, but would take a stable equilibrium. But if things are actively getting worse in some of these domains? That’s a hard bloody sell. I think older folks are quite fortunate that so much of what they benefitted from, and younger folks no longer do is buried by anti-migration sentiment. Not in any ‘eat the elderly’ uprising sense haha don’t get me wrong. But it fragments a lot of the youth vote to prevent it ever seriously challenging political parties and policies In the UK for example we have a pension ‘triple lock’. Which effectively guarantees that the state pension will stay above 2.5%, inflation or effective wage increases, it moves up whichever of those is highest. Is this a bad policy? I’m not against insulating our pensioners against shocks. However, the wider working population has still got fucked by stagnant wages or inflation, or both. The disabled are still left at their payments being eroded by those forces too. Perhaps a problem many of us have is simply that we don’t want to make it a zero-sum confrontation, even if maybe it might be politically advantageous. We don’t want to fuck the elderly over, or migrants or whatever, but rebuild failing systems for a more general uplift. Incidentally my German TLers, just how left are some of those parties mentioned here? | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands21339 Posts
The question is why they are flocking to the far right nazi's and not elsewhere. Because the Nazi's sure aren't going to fix anything either. I legit wonder how much the political directions of the youth are being driven by social media and the flood of right wing propaganda on it, whether from local or foreign sources. | ||
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