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You're basically me with 10% toned down, probably a beta version
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Half of the questions I would like to answer with: "I want that, but it shouldn't be up to me or any other single person to decide that."
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On May 28 2018 01:38 Big J wrote:
Half of the questions I would like to answer with: "I want that, but it shouldn't be up to me or any other single person to decide that."
You should answer yes to those then. Imagine the servey in the sense of what you would push twords as a part of a group instead of you as a singular god deciding these things.
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I'm basically the same as RvB... which explains why I usually stop myself from commenting on subjects here when I see he's already addressed it.
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What's wrong with this test? Half of you appear to be communist and I doubt that's the case.
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Looks like we might head towards new elections in Italy. Any insight/precisions from someone there?
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On May 28 2018 03:17 sc-darkness wrote:
What's wrong with this test? Half of you appear to be communist and I doubt that's the case.
Usually when people say that, it's their interpretation of communism that is wrong.
+ Show Spoiler +I like this tweet by Elon Musk:
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On May 28 2018 03:17 sc-darkness wrote:
What's wrong with this test? Half of you appear to be communist and I doubt that's the case.
Should be "socialist" instead of "communist" in the test anyway, as it's a larger family of policies
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On May 28 2018 03:20 a_flayer wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2018 03:17 sc-darkness wrote:
What's wrong with this test? Half of you appear to be communist and I doubt that's the case. Usually when people say that, it's their interpretation of communism that is wrong. + Show Spoiler +
I'm more educated about communism than you, thanks. My country was communist in the past, so I know more than you might have read in some books.
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Communism is a vast political doctrine. In this test a majority for communism silmply signifies that you are for a public property of the means of production.
Capitalism is as well an ambivalent concept. In this test a majority for capitalism silmply signifies that you are for a private property of the means of production.
www.politiscales.net
From their website.
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On May 28 2018 03:47 RvB wrote:Show nested quote +Communism is a vast political doctrine. In this test a majority for communism silmply signifies that you are for a public property of the means of production.
Capitalism is as well an ambivalent concept. In this test a majority for capitalism silmply signifies that you are for a private property of the means of production. www.politiscales.netFrom their website.
Funny how this description partly matches the one of socialism. They're used interchangeably by this test.
I doubt all of you who got labeled as communists are for one-party political system. I doubt you want to live in a country like Cuba, North Korea, etc.
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On May 28 2018 03:26 sc-darkness wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2018 03:20 a_flayer wrote:On May 28 2018 03:17 sc-darkness wrote:
What's wrong with this test? Half of you appear to be communist and I doubt that's the case. Usually when people say that, it's their interpretation of communism that is wrong. + Show Spoiler + I'm more educated about communism than you, thanks. My country was communist in the past, so I know more than you might have read in some books.
The self-description was socialist though, right? The goal was to establish communism.
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On May 28 2018 03:51 sc-darkness wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2018 03:47 RvB wrote:Communism is a vast political doctrine. In this test a majority for communism silmply signifies that you are for a public property of the means of production.
Capitalism is as well an ambivalent concept. In this test a majority for capitalism silmply signifies that you are for a private property of the means of production. www.politiscales.netFrom their website. Funny how this description partly matches the one of socialism. They're used interchangeably by this test. I doubt all of you who got labeled as communists are for one-party political system. I doubt you want to live in a country like Cuba, North Korea, etc.
Communism is the classless, stateless society that is supposed to happen eventually after capitalism is replaced by socialism for a while. It doesn't have to be authoritarian.
But if you want to put socialism instead that's fine, the term isn't what matters, the opposition to capitalism is.
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Your theory might tell you that it doesn't have to be authoritarian. In practice, I don't know about any communist state which didn't start as authoritarian. At least in Europe.
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On May 28 2018 05:12 sc-darkness wrote:
Your theory might tell you that it doesn't have to be authoritarian. In practice, I don't know about any communist state which didn't start as authoritarian. At least in Europe.
Your instinct is correct, there are some outside of Europe that undermine your argument. But that doesn't really matter to this discussion because Politiscales is obviously on the side of theory, it's a test about your political thoughts...
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Also, how a goverment/regime calls itself has hardly anything to do with what it is. North Korea, East Germany... Just to name two.
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fuck
what is happening in Italy is disgusting
one would hope that most of the people would realize that voting for the 2 parties currently trying to form a (ridiculous attempt of) government was one of the biggest mistake, but the truth is that is we went to vote again now, the extreme right would get even more vote..
seeing this happening to my country is like a cold shower
at this point I really, truly, don't know what to hope for, m5s and lega nord embody the worst of italian politics.. I never thought, NEVER, that someone worst than years of Berlusconi would have come along, but here we are..
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