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Took me about 2 weeks to finish ADwD.
+ Show Spoiler +I'm hoping Jon really isn't dead. As far as the rest of the book is concerned, I wasn't very impressed. I felt he described everything fine but there really wasn't TOO much going on up until the last 300 pages or so. I suppose I just miss the nonstop action from books 1-3 so naturally 4 & 5 haven't been as good.
As for book 6..really not looking forward to waiting 3-4 years since we all know something big is about to happen.
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o.o alright i think it's time to step it up and buy the entire series
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On August 01 2011 12:18 Kouda wrote:Did anyone get chills when + Show Spoiler +John stopped the Slynt's hanging...
to fucking cut his head off?
yes, yes
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So does anyone...
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Want to make a recipe for those "The North Remembers" Pies?
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Sounds like interesting books/book? Is there a movie coming out anytime soon and how long are the books/book?
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On August 02 2011 15:44 NeverMore9 wrote:
Sounds like interesting books/book? Is there a movie coming out anytime soon and how long are the books/book?
Don't think there are any plans for a movie (atleast not to my knowledge).
HBO recently released season 1 of the mini series, which you can either YouTube to watch trailers or go to HBO's website to find out more information.
You can find all 5 books at any major bookstore. The books are roughly 1000 pages each.
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On August 02 2011 15:44 NeverMore9 wrote:
Sounds like interesting books/book? Is there a movie coming out anytime soon and how long are the books/book?
you cant make a movie out of these books
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On July 30 2011 04:55 Skilledblob wrote:
Gods existance is commonly accepted by a huge amount of nerds too but this still doesnt prove it
Well unlike the existence of God + Show Spoiler +there is actually lots of hard evidence at R+L = J = true 
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On August 02 2011 13:30 Antisocialmunky wrote:So does anyone... + Show Spoiler +
Want to make a recipe for those "The North Remembers" Pies?
There's actually a blog that creates/looks for recipes based on the food in the books, http://inatthecrossroads.com Check their site from time to time, they say they're going to work on that dish soon. :D
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Where are they going to buy Frey meat?
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I love the writing style.. I feel like every character is written to have an amazing amount of potential to develop... the scariest part is.. I know the author is willing to kill off his characters.. so you get really emotionally attached as you read the story. I guess its almost a very 'realistic' type of writing style? :D
Highly recommend to anyone looking through this thread! VERY good books to spend your time and read.
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On August 05 2011 03:35 littlechava wrote:
Where are they going to buy Frey meat?
When did they say what was in the pies? And when and where did they serve them?! I must have forgot this part already :D
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On August 05 2011 03:56 -Archangel- wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2011 03:35 littlechava wrote:
Where are they going to buy Frey meat? When did they say what was in the pies? And when and where did they serve them?! I must have forgot this part already :D
It wasn't explicit but is was heavily implied.
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On August 05 2011 03:56 -Archangel- wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2011 03:35 littlechava wrote:
Where are they going to buy Frey meat? When did they say what was in the pies? And when and where did they serve them?! I must have forgot this part already :D
+ Show Spoiler +When Ramsey is getting married to Arya (aka Jeyne Poole) there's a giant feast in their honor. Lord Manderly brings along three giant pies and serves them up during the feast and has several large helpings to himself. If you'll recall there were three Freys staying at White Harbor when Davos visited there that happened to disappear during the journey to Winterfell. Given Manderly's disposition towards the Boltons and his request for the song "The Rat Cook" at the end of the meal it is pretty heavily implied that he killed the three Freys and baked them into the pies.
The north remembers.
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I think a lot of the problems/weaknesses in books 4 and 5 were owing to the time gap that Martin intended and then had to scrap. Much of the story in these two books was never intended to be told except in flashbacks. The wikipedia article has the following paragraph:
"After A Storm of Swords was completed in 2000, Martin began writing A Dance with Dragons, the intended fourth volume which would pick up the story five years after the previous volume. Martin found it difficult to make this work without an over-reliance on flashbacks. At the World Science Fiction Convention in Philadelphia on 1 September 2001, Martin announced that he was scrapping more than a year's work and writing a different fourth book that would fill in the gap, named A Feast for Crows. He found it extremely difficult to go back and start again, especially as this novel was not planned for in his scheme for the series, and work on the book progressed slowly."
It seemed like Dance really started to pick up after it caught up time-wise to the end of Feast and started moving forward into the stuff that Martin had meant to begin with after the time gap. In light of this, I'd expect the next two books to be of higher quality than the last two.
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A few thoughts on aDwD.
+ Show Spoiler +
Random thoughts:
Whats all this about Jon warging into Ghost? Jon doesnt have any idea how to even use his powers so I dont think he can do that. What the hell could he do as Ghost anyway? Run down to Winterfell and chew on Ramsay's balls? Talk to Bran?
I think Martin is just setting up the north to get owned by the Others. That's fine, that's what we've been waiting for. Im thinking they have the real horn and are going to knock the wall down, cause they cant technically get the wights through while its got all those enchantments... right? It would be really really fuckin lame if they get to the wall, cant get through and then Dany just comes with her dragons and breathes fire all over them and saves the day.
I really dont get where he is going with Bran. The only cool thing Bran can do is maybe warg into dragon. It sucks cause I really liked Bran and thought he was going to rip some shit up riding on bears with a wolf army or something. Now he just whispers at people through trees...
Why didnt Martin just get Tyrion to Dany? In my opinion it woulda saved the whole book. Too much bloody filler getting there, and Penny was just awful. Im glad Jorah is back cause the TV show really made me like him but I wish he fuckin killed Penny, or that Penny got the damn plague. If she sticks around next book and her and Tyrion start a relationship Im going to puke.
I thought some of the new characters chapters were bad. Anyone like Quentyn? I'll bet no. Asha was pretty lame too, only good part was when she got fucked. The only new one I liked was Victarion, but I only liked him cause I got a thing for pirates. Thought he was pretty badass, sucks hes going to get owned in Mereen and Dany is going to steal his boats.
Blah blah blah that's it for now. Maybe more ranting in the future haha. Fuckin show sucked me in and I wish it never did. I bet HBO is starting to kick themselves in the ass after they read this book. Some of this isnt going to be easy to reproduce well for TV without a huge budget.
Anyone know where whores go? Or any words that rhyme with Reek?
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On August 05 2011 07:57 Flik wrote:A few thoughts on aDwD. + Show Spoiler +
Random thoughts:
Whats all this about Jon warging into Ghost? Jon doesnt have any idea how to even use his powers so I dont think he can do that. What the hell could he do as Ghost anyway? Run down to Winterfell and chew on Ramsay's balls? Talk to Bran?
I think Martin is just setting up the north to get owned by the Others. That's fine, that's what we've been waiting for. Im thinking they have the real horn and are going to knock the wall down, cause they cant technically get the wights through while its got all those enchantments... right? It would be really really fuckin lame if they get to the wall, cant get through and then Dany just comes with her dragons and breathes fire all over them and saves the day.
I really dont get where he is going with Bran. The only cool thing Bran can do is maybe warg into dragon. It sucks cause I really liked Bran and thought he was going to rip some shit up riding on bears with a wolf army or something. Now he just whispers at people through trees...
Why didnt Martin just get Tyrion to Dany? In my opinion it woulda saved the whole book. Too much bloody filler getting there, and Penny was just awful. Im glad Jorah is back cause the TV show really made me like him but I wish he fuckin killed Penny, or that Penny got the damn plague. If she sticks around next book and her and Tyrion start a relationship Im going to puke.
I thought some of the new characters chapters were bad. Anyone like Quentyn? I'll bet no. Asha was pretty lame too, only good part was when she got fucked. The only new one I liked was Victarion, but I only liked him cause I got a thing for pirates. Thought he was pretty badass, sucks hes going to get owned in Mereen and Dany is going to steal his boats.
Blah blah blah that's it for now. Maybe more ranting in the future haha. Fuckin show sucked me in and I wish it never did. I bet HBO is starting to kick themselves in the ass after they read this book. Some of this isnt going to be easy to reproduce well for TV without a huge budget.
Anyone know where whores go? Or any words that rhyme with Reek?
+ Show Spoiler +I liked Griff/Melisandre esp Mel. I was hoping she had some more chapters tbh.
Am I the only one who is super interested in aryas plot? I dunno why shes like out there alone and not connected atm.
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On August 05 2011 08:07 [GiTM]-Ace wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2011 07:57 Flik wrote:A few thoughts on aDwD. + Show Spoiler +
Random thoughts:
Whats all this about Jon warging into Ghost? Jon doesnt have any idea how to even use his powers so I dont think he can do that. What the hell could he do as Ghost anyway? Run down to Winterfell and chew on Ramsay's balls? Talk to Bran?
I think Martin is just setting up the north to get owned by the Others. That's fine, that's what we've been waiting for. Im thinking they have the real horn and are going to knock the wall down, cause they cant technically get the wights through while its got all those enchantments... right? It would be really really fuckin lame if they get to the wall, cant get through and then Dany just comes with her dragons and breathes fire all over them and saves the day.
I really dont get where he is going with Bran. The only cool thing Bran can do is maybe warg into dragon. It sucks cause I really liked Bran and thought he was going to rip some shit up riding on bears with a wolf army or something. Now he just whispers at people through trees...
Why didnt Martin just get Tyrion to Dany? In my opinion it woulda saved the whole book. Too much bloody filler getting there, and Penny was just awful. Im glad Jorah is back cause the TV show really made me like him but I wish he fuckin killed Penny, or that Penny got the damn plague. If she sticks around next book and her and Tyrion start a relationship Im going to puke.
I thought some of the new characters chapters were bad. Anyone like Quentyn? I'll bet no. Asha was pretty lame too, only good part was when she got fucked. The only new one I liked was Victarion, but I only liked him cause I got a thing for pirates. Thought he was pretty badass, sucks hes going to get owned in Mereen and Dany is going to steal his boats.
Blah blah blah that's it for now. Maybe more ranting in the future haha. Fuckin show sucked me in and I wish it never did. I bet HBO is starting to kick themselves in the ass after they read this book. Some of this isnt going to be easy to reproduce well for TV without a huge budget.
Anyone know where whores go? Or any words that rhyme with Reek?
+ Show Spoiler +I liked Griff/Melisandre esp Mel. I was hoping she had some more chapters tbh.
Am I the only one who is super interested in aryas plot? I dunno why shes like out there alone and not connected atm.
+ Show Spoiler +I'm majorly enjoying Arya's storyline, so you're not alone there. She's being set up to be such a total badass.
Jon has been my favorite character for a long time. The prospect of him being dead really upsets me. I agree with what some others have said about "resurrecting him cheapeans the story", but I'm also struggling to think of how Martin resolves the whole issue of the North without him.
My biggest dilemma: I don't know wtf to read now. Does anyone have any suggestions? I was really starting to get into the atmosphere of Dance, so I'd love to pick up something with a similar setting/fantasy backdrop.
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On August 05 2011 08:16 MrBitter wrote:
My biggest dilemma: I don't know wtf to read now. Does anyone have any suggestions? I was really starting to get into the atmosphere of Dance, so I'd love to pick up something with a similar setting/fantasy backdrop.
There has been two big recommendation threads for fantasy I can't seem to find the other but here's one. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=19483
After I finished DwD i started to read R. Scott Bakker's Prince of Nothing trilogy and been enjoying it immensely.
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On August 05 2011 08:16 MrBitter wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2011 08:07 [GiTM]-Ace wrote:On August 05 2011 07:57 Flik wrote:A few thoughts on aDwD. + Show Spoiler +
Random thoughts:
Whats all this about Jon warging into Ghost? Jon doesnt have any idea how to even use his powers so I dont think he can do that. What the hell could he do as Ghost anyway? Run down to Winterfell and chew on Ramsay's balls? Talk to Bran?
I think Martin is just setting up the north to get owned by the Others. That's fine, that's what we've been waiting for. Im thinking they have the real horn and are going to knock the wall down, cause they cant technically get the wights through while its got all those enchantments... right? It would be really really fuckin lame if they get to the wall, cant get through and then Dany just comes with her dragons and breathes fire all over them and saves the day.
I really dont get where he is going with Bran. The only cool thing Bran can do is maybe warg into dragon. It sucks cause I really liked Bran and thought he was going to rip some shit up riding on bears with a wolf army or something. Now he just whispers at people through trees...
Why didnt Martin just get Tyrion to Dany? In my opinion it woulda saved the whole book. Too much bloody filler getting there, and Penny was just awful. Im glad Jorah is back cause the TV show really made me like him but I wish he fuckin killed Penny, or that Penny got the damn plague. If she sticks around next book and her and Tyrion start a relationship Im going to puke.
I thought some of the new characters chapters were bad. Anyone like Quentyn? I'll bet no. Asha was pretty lame too, only good part was when she got fucked. The only new one I liked was Victarion, but I only liked him cause I got a thing for pirates. Thought he was pretty badass, sucks hes going to get owned in Mereen and Dany is going to steal his boats.
Blah blah blah that's it for now. Maybe more ranting in the future haha. Fuckin show sucked me in and I wish it never did. I bet HBO is starting to kick themselves in the ass after they read this book. Some of this isnt going to be easy to reproduce well for TV without a huge budget.
Anyone know where whores go? Or any words that rhyme with Reek?
+ Show Spoiler +I liked Griff/Melisandre esp Mel. I was hoping she had some more chapters tbh.
Am I the only one who is super interested in aryas plot? I dunno why shes like out there alone and not connected atm. + Show Spoiler +I'm majorly enjoying Arya's storyline, so you're not alone there. She's being set up to be such a total badass.
Jon has been my favorite character for a long time. The prospect of him being dead really upsets me. I agree with what some others have said about "resurrecting him cheapeans the story", but I'm also struggling to think of how Martin resolves the whole issue of the North without him. My biggest dilemma: I don't know wtf to read now. Does anyone have any suggestions? I was really starting to get into the atmosphere of Dance, so I'd love to pick up something with a similar setting/fantasy backdrop.
+ Show Spoiler +I cannot make myself root for Arya anymore. Not if she becomes the faceless assassin. No, she will not be badass, you need to have a personality to be badass. Religious fanatics are not badass, they are just morons. And faceless are even worse because they are a group of brainwashed idiots that think they represent a God while they use only parlor tricks and some glamors. Similar to most of real world religions. Martin got them right in that regard.
Bran with Old Gods, and Mel with God of Light are much more interesting characters.
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