EPTMyself, I enjoy the settings and development of the characters a lot, though, and I liked the Brienne chapters even though they didn't drive the story forward. They are sort of there to tell about the countryside/smallfolk now that Arya doesn't have that role anymore, and to put Brienne where she needs to be (I'm not convinced she is dead). I understand why somebody did not like them, especially if they don't care for Brienne.
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Maginor
Norway505 Posts
Myself, I enjoy the settings and development of the characters a lot, though, and I liked the Brienne chapters even though they didn't drive the story forward. They are sort of there to tell about the countryside/smallfolk now that Arya doesn't have that role anymore, and to put Brienne where she needs to be (I'm not convinced she is dead). I understand why somebody did not like them, especially if they don't care for Brienne. | ||
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pakiepiphany
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blamous
United States377 Posts
Man... just reading some of these comments I know I will have to go through the books again... I have such a love/hate relationship with these books that I really don't want to start over, but I know I will be lost in 'dance' if I do not - so many plots and characters... dead, living, undead.... love him or hate him, one thing that Martin gets right (and I think ive said it before in this thread) is that every person has the capacity to be a hero and a monster... often right in back of one another. | ||
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Tegin
United States840 Posts
It really does feel like a "Tales of Westeros" book. I just hope whatever Martin is setting up is worth it. | ||
Flicky
England2675 Posts
On June 09 2011 01:07 Maginor wrote: A Feast for Crows doesn't really drive the main story that much forward, and I think that is why many people have problems with it. It sort of feels like "Assorted tales of Westeros", that are there just because the political situation has to be set up for whatever happens next. I quite liked A Feast for Crows but this makes sense here. I didn't dislike any chapters like I did in other books (didn't like Catelyn's chapters). One thing I've noticed about it is the lack of cliffhangers at the end of it. There's no real sense of urgency or loose ends that you really want to see tied up. Sure there a few but none of them on the scale of in the previous books. I can see why people didn't like Brienne, but not liking the Sansa chapters is weird. There were only a few of them anyway and you get to spend more time with Littlefinger who is quite a popular character. I don't know the policy on spoilers here so I'll be careful: + Show Spoiler + With cliffhangers, Arya's isn't that interesting (seeing as we've heard about another blind child earlier in the Temple), Sansa's is just a case of seeing what Littlefinger does next, Cersei and Jaime's has no real excitement or urgency to it and then there's the Dornish going after Dany. Also finding out how Davos dies (if at all) and where the islanders go next. That's it, right? Most of he intrigue for reading Dance is leftover from Book 3. | ||
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DisaFear
Australia4074 Posts
But they'll have em now, popular series that it is | ||
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Eishi_Ki
Korea (South)1667 Posts
On June 12 2011 22:05 Flicky wrote: I quite liked A Feast for Crows but this makes sense here. I didn't dislike any chapters like I did in other books (didn't like Catelyn's chapters). One thing I've noticed about it is the lack of cliffhangers at the end of it. There's no real sense of urgency or loose ends that you really want to see tied up. Sure there a few but none of them on the scale of in the previous books. I can see why people didn't like Brienne, but not liking the Sansa chapters is weird. There were only a few of them anyway and you get to spend more time with Littlefinger who is quite a popular character. I don't know the policy on spoilers here so I'll be careful: + Show Spoiler + With cliffhangers, Arya's isn't that interesting (seeing as we've heard about another blind child earlier in the Temple), Sansa's is just a case of seeing what Littlefinger does next, Cersei and Jaime's has no real excitement or urgency to it and then there's the Dornish going after Dany. Also finding out how Davos dies (if at all) and where the islanders go next. That's it, right? Most of he intrigue for reading Dance is leftover from Book 3. How about Jon, Sam, Jaqen (Alchemist), Theon or Jorah? I'm so stoked for this... | ||
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Flicky
England2675 Posts
On June 12 2011 23:05 Eishi_Ki wrote: How about Jon, Sam, Jaqen (Alchemist), Theon or Jorah? I'm so stoked for this... Re-read what I said. These are all stories from Book 3, not from Book 4. | ||
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Maginor
Norway505 Posts
On June 12 2011 23:49 Flicky wrote: Re-read what I said. These are all stories from Book 3, not from Book 4. Sam and the alchemist are in book 4. Theon was last seen in book 2. | ||
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Manit0u
Poland17853 Posts
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Yaqoob
Canada3408 Posts
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Evs
Philippines330 Posts
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Velocity`
United Kingdom343 Posts
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Aurdon
United States2007 Posts
On June 13 2011 22:45 Callous wrote: I sincerely hope that GRRM doesn't die before he finishes this series. The guy is getting old, after all. He may have enough notes that even if he dies the story will continue. Death didn't stop Robert Jordan and the Wheel of Time or so a lot of the stories that came after Tolkien's death. | ||
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Manit0u
Poland17853 Posts
On June 13 2011 22:52 Aurdon wrote: He may have enough notes that even if he dies the story will continue. Death didn't stop Robert Jordan and the Wheel of Time or so a lot of the stories that came after Tolkien's death. GRRM could also get himself an assistant or two. It worked really well for Robert E. Howard with John D. Clark and L. Sprague de Camp. | ||
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KOFgokuon
United States14912 Posts
On June 13 2011 22:52 Aurdon wrote: He may have enough notes that even if he dies the story will continue. Death didn't stop Robert Jordan and the Wheel of Time or so a lot of the stories that came after Tolkien's death. I'm quite sure that he's been quoted as saying that if he dies, no one is finishing it for him | ||
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Tegin
United States840 Posts
With so many people watching the series and now picking up the books (myself included) I'd hope it motivates him enough. | ||
MasterOfChaos
Germany2896 Posts
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Ostracized
Canada52 Posts
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domovoi
United States1478 Posts
On June 13 2011 22:29 Manit0u wrote: Sorry to barge in like that, but Wikipedia claims that the earliest release for A Dream of Spring (supposedly the last book in the seriest) is January 2047. I mean, are you serious? 36 years from now? Does GRRM really want to release a book at the age of 98? lol you got trolled probably someone frustrated with how long it took for ADwD to come out. | ||
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