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Zurich15366 Posts
On July 03 2014 00:25 JustPassingBy wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2014 21:41 Shikyo wrote:
Public healthcare is totally awesome. By the way, there's plenty of private doctors over here as well, but for example when I had to get a tooth removed and went to the public healthcare dentist, he just forwarded me to a private dentist who's an expert at the field. The entire thing went very smoothly and was super professional, and only cost me about 30 euros. Now, while the public healthcare doctors tend to not be amazing, they can still get basic things done and they can forward you to the experts who get things done for the same fee(the government pays the full fee to them here).
Of course, in the end it's partially paid for via taxes, but the amount of security you get and the guarantee you have that things will work out without needing all sorts of seperate insurances and packages and policies and all sorts of things in return for you never being screwed... Is in my opinion worth it. Just how much is money worth, anyway? After you can get by decently, there's minimal returns if you don't want to outright waste it on drinking or new cards(when your old one would do just fine). For example my friend who earns around 10k euros a month just donates most of it to charity because it's not that useful to him. Wait, there are dentists who are experts in removing teeth? Isn't that a bread and butter thing for them that any dentist should be able to do?
Yeah over here there is generally a difference between dentist and dental surgeon. While a dentist can probably do a simple removal a dental surgeon would be visited for pulling out wisdom teeth or otherwise complicated procedures.
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If only CEOs and managers were capable of overcoming their collective blindness to the existence of useless jobs! Imagine how much better their bottom line would have been, how many companies wouldn't have had to go bankrupt! If only ...
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You guys should know that in the future, everything is going to automated right?
Thus a lot of those "bullshit" jobs will disappear.
But due the our huge population number, people will fight to the death for those jobs.
This will create anarchy in the society and bloodshed.
But the main way to control the population number is with the rise of the LGBTQ community.
And if you are into any form of science fields, writing industry, and/or art creation field, I personally wouldn't worry too much about it. These fields are very to be automated and require a certain level of creativity that the A.I. is unable to possess (unless someone of those fields programs it to be in which case, it further reinforce the notion).
In the future, we will ALL be designers and creators.
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Zurich15366 Posts
On July 03 2014 00:59 Xiphos wrote:
And if you are into any form of science fields, writing industry, and/or art creation field, I personally wouldn't worry too much about it.
Of course, if you are a research assistant, a journalist, or a storybook sketch artist, you'll be automated away anyway!
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On July 03 2014 01:05 zatic wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2014 00:59 Xiphos wrote:
And if you are into any form of science fields, writing industry, and/or art creation field, I personally wouldn't worry too much about it. Of course, if you are a research assistant, a journalist, or a storybook sketch artist, you'll be automated away anyway!
Explain.
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On July 03 2014 00:59 Xiphos wrote:
But the main way to control the population number is with the rise of the LGBTQ community.
so many wats... are you suggesting that there are so many gays pretending to be strait and having children that if they didn't feel that pressure it would stop the population rising?
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It's a little weird in the US. I'm not sure how it's supposed to be, for all intents and purposes most of the actual work is done by dental assistants or whatever they call themselves.
The person who got a traditional degree (not from a multi-week [~1/2-2 years] tech course or the 'dentist' usually is primarily there as a legal requirement and for supervisory/consultation/observation purposes (they tend to own and operate the business itself also).
It's not uncommon to schedule a dental appointment and not even actually ever see a 'dentist'. Their assistants will be tasked with everything up to and including at least fillings cavities.
Many times the dentist will just stop in to administer local anesthetics and then let the assistant do the dental work while he/she moves on to the next patient.
Doctors spend about 20% of their time with patients I'd say the same is about true for dentists.
For more complicated procedures like non-surgical extractions you would probably be worked on by a dentist, and then for more invasive surgical work you would see a dental surgeon.
Of course the more rural the setting, the more unique the situation would be around here.
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On July 03 2014 01:12 ComaDose wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2014 00:59 Xiphos wrote:
But the main way to control the population number is with the rise of the LGBTQ community.
so many wats... are you suggesting that there are so many gays pretending to be strait and having children that if they didn't feel that pressure it would stop the population rising?
Where did you that idea?
Chances of Gay/Lesbian "members" to reproduce amongst couples are non existence-> They choose to adopt kids -> The kids will think that being Gay/Lesbian is normal due to nurture and being socially accepted -> High chances of them of becoming gays/lesbians -> Growth in the Gay/Lesbian community -> lower the population reproduction.
With the growth of the gay/lesbian community, there will be less people to produce. This is just simple biology.
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lol, I guess less world population would generally solve a lot of problems.
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On July 03 2014 01:20 Xiphos wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2014 01:12 ComaDose wrote:On July 03 2014 00:59 Xiphos wrote:
But the main way to control the population number is with the rise of the LGBTQ community.
so many wats... are you suggesting that there are so many gays pretending to be strait and having children that if they didn't feel that pressure it would stop the population rising? Where did you that idea? Chances of Gay/Lesbian "members" to reproduce amongst couples are non existence-> They choose to adopt kids -> The kids will think that being Gay/Lesbian is normal due to nurture and being socially accepted -> High chances of them of becoming gays/lesbians -> Growth in the Gay/Lesbian community -> lower the population reproduction. With the growth of the gay/lesbian community, there will be less people to produce. This is just simple biology.
That's not how human sexuality works.
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On July 03 2014 01:32 farvacola wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2014 01:20 Xiphos wrote:On July 03 2014 01:12 ComaDose wrote:On July 03 2014 00:59 Xiphos wrote:
But the main way to control the population number is with the rise of the LGBTQ community.
so many wats... are you suggesting that there are so many gays pretending to be strait and having children that if they didn't feel that pressure it would stop the population rising? Where did you that idea? Chances of Gay/Lesbian "members" to reproduce amongst couples are non existence-> They choose to adopt kids -> The kids will think that being Gay/Lesbian is normal due to nurture and being socially accepted -> High chances of them of becoming gays/lesbians -> Growth in the Gay/Lesbian community -> lower the population reproduction. With the growth of the gay/lesbian community, there will be less people to produce. This is just simple biology. That's not how human sexuality works.
Explain.
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Cayman Islands24199 Posts
lower population is a good thing
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On July 02 2014 23:54 urboss wrote:
Definition: A bullshit job is a job that only exists as a side product of the economic system and doesn't provide any tangible value to the world.
That means, in an ideal world this job would not exist.
The state wouldn't need to have money to cover the basic needs.
This is because we can decouple the basic-need-system from the monetary system.
You can think of a world wide union that guarantees the provision of basic needs.
Classic example of irrationally idealistic thought.
"A bullshit job is a job that only exists as a side product of the economic system and doesn't provide any tangible value to the world."
What is tangible value to the world? How do you define it? Who defines it?
"That means, in an ideal world this job would not exist."
What is an ideal world? How do you define it? Who defines it?
"The state wouldn't need to have money to cover the basic needs.
This is because we can decouple the basic-need-system from the monetary system.
You can think of a world wide union that guarantees the provision of basic needs."
It's telling that you mention a world wide union because this sort of utopia where money doesn't exist for basic needs would never work as long as there are countries that don't partake in it. How about we talk about ways to improve things that are actually achievable? If you think that uniting the world under a single state is achievable anytime in the meaningful future, then you're insane.
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On July 03 2014 01:35 oneofthem wrote:
lower population is a good thing
Exactly, more jobs for everyone.
Less people on the welfare, less people homeless, less taxes spent on those things, more money spent on building infrastructure.
Technology/WWs provided us with HIGH population, you NEED a way to control the population. The gay/lesbian rise is an outlet of doing so.
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That is nonsense. A reduce in population has effects when population/area is relevant. This means food production, living arrangements, natural ressources, that sort of thing. It also means that infrastructure becomes MORE expensive, because people live further away from each other, meaning you need more road/cable/sewer per person.
You are assuming that the reduction in population will only be homeless or jobless people, and i see no basis for that assumption.
Also, human sexuality does not work that way. You are getting dangerously close to the "gay conspiracy" guys.
On July 03 2014 00:59 Xiphos wrote:
You guys should know that in the future, everything is going to automated right?
Thus a lot of those "bullshit" jobs will disappear.
But due the our huge population number, people will fight to the death for those jobs.
This will create anarchy in the society and bloodshed.
But the main way to control the population number is with the rise of the LGBTQ community.
And if you are into any form of science fields, writing industry, and/or art creation field, I personally wouldn't worry too much about it. These fields are very to be automated and require a certain level of creativity that the A.I. is unable to possess (unless someone of those fields programs it to be in which case, it further reinforce the notion).
In the future, we will ALL be designers and creators. I honestly thought this post was some sort of hyperbolic joke, but apparently you are actually serious.
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On July 03 2014 01:41 Simberto wrote:
That is nonsense. A reduce in population has effects when population/area is relevant. This means food production, living arrangements, natural ressources, that sort of thing. It also means that infrastructure becomes MORE expensive, because people live further away from each other, meaning you need more road/cable/sewer per person.
You are assuming that the reduction in population will only be homeless or jobless people, and i see no basis for that assumption.
Also, human sexuality does not work that way. You are getting dangerously close to the "gay conspiracy" guys.
I honestly thought your whole previous post was a joke.
Explain the bold, don't be like the previous guy that make statement w/o backup. That's useless.
What if I were to tell you that many of the undergraduate students can't find jobs after they graduate due to the fact that there are more population than jobs available?
High paying jobs are the ones in the science field (physics, comp sci, chemist), they can't find jobs nowadays. And with the rise of automations, the "lower requirement" jobs are all filled up by machines.
But I sort of agree on the "more road/cable/sewer per person" point. However, road/cable/sewer can be improved with tech. Which many people are getting into but can't seem to find any job.
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On July 03 2014 01:52 Xiphos wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2014 01:41 Simberto wrote:
That is nonsense. A reduce in population has effects when population/area is relevant. This means food production, living arrangements, natural ressources, that sort of thing. It also means that infrastructure becomes MORE expensive, because people live further away from each other, meaning you need more road/cable/sewer per person.
You are assuming that the reduction in population will only be homeless or jobless people, and i see no basis for that assumption.
Also, human sexuality does not work that way. You are getting dangerously close to the "gay conspiracy" guys.
I honestly thought your whole previous post was a joke. Explain the bold, don't be like the previous guy that make statement w/o backup. That's useless. What if I were to tell you that many of the undergraduate students can't find jobs after they graduate due to the fact that there are more population than jobs available? High paying jobs are the ones in the science field (physics, comp sci, chemist), they can't find jobs nowadays. And with the rise of automations, the "lower requirement" jobs are all filled up by machines. But I sort of agree on the "more road/cable/sewer per person" point. However, road/cable/sewer can be improved with tech. Which many people are getting into but can't seem to find any job.
Holy tangent Batman.....
I'd argue that many of the undergraduate students who can't find a job are often in that position because the skills/experiences they acquired in college are not appropriate for the kind of work they are looking for (where if you don't gain additional specialization/functionality through your education, why should they pay you more for it). It's an unfortunate reality but luckily people are beginning to see that your college major doesn't have to dictate your career etc
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Im convinced. LF under 25 male stud.
Edit: And divorce lawyer.
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On July 03 2014 01:37 Xiphos wrote:Exactly, more jobs for everyone. Less people on the welfare, less people homeless, less taxes spent on those things, more money spent on building infrastructure. Technology/WWs provided us with HIGH population, you NEED a way to control the population. The gay/lesbian rise is an outlet of doing so.
Are you honestly saying that more people are gay than in the past and that is somehow a part of curbing population growth? The LGBT movement has not been about more people becoming gay (it happens naturally and is a set thing) it is about people who were in that position not having to hide it; it's totally separate from population growth. People who were gay before were not forcing themselves to have children, like the guy above me said, that's not how human sexuality/attraction works. Utterly ridiculous claim tbh
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