EPTmakes one wonder why?
Cyberspace Sexual Predators Exposed - Page 4
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uhjoo
Korea (South)1740 Posts
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Chibi[OWNS]
United Kingdom10597 Posts
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Braavos36402 Posts
On October 26 2006 23:18 Chibi[OWNS] wrote: well technically it doesn't matter whether they are 18, 23 or 43? they are all child abusers by default no? and any relationship they might have with someone younger than the local (wait, i mean the american) age of consent is undoubtably and inargueably one of abuse and not of a mutual fondness or love or lust? im not conjuring up fantasies, shithole. you know how many horny little girls are on the frikin internet? or how many there are IRL who would just die to have a romantic relationship with an older guy? and who would defend to tears their relationship when questioned by this all-assuming authority? what are you talking about. the situations you described were: 1. senior football stud preying on dumbass cheerleader 2. lonely college guy chatting with a "curious and horny and willing little girl" if you think those situations are the same as a 45 year old man and a 10 year old boy, please get clue. the two situations you outlined there are the neatest, cleanest, easiest examples that support your point, and the second situation is still disturbing. i mean hell, senior football player and cheerleader? thats the same age grouping. its great  that you want to protect the rights of horny, curious young girls (what an activist you are) but you can't honestly think that an underage child can fully comprehend and make decisions regarding a relationship with a much older adult who more often than not is attempting to take advantage of them? for every fantasy love case your mind conjures up that might be postponed for a few years until someone turns the right age, there are thousands of children who are protected from older predators. the cases you are thinking up (mutual loving relationship between a minor and adult that is hindered by american statutory rape laws) happen one in a million (if that) while there are no shortage of perverts who are looking for a good time and will fuck a kid up for his entire life. | ||
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Chibi[OWNS]
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DavieWants2 [1:31 PM]: i like to rape my bois for REAL SnapShotDeath [1:31 PM]: i swear i do what u say DavieWants2 [1:32 PM]: what if i tell YOU i want to put a rope around YOUR neck as i fuck YOu in YOUR sweet ass, and hear YOU beg not to die the young person "MAY POSSIBLY" be psychologically damaged by having an experience with this guy? i know the whole pedo thing is a big joke for everyone around you but its honestly disturbing as fuck the way you think and argue so vehemently on this issue. i wouldn't let any friend or relative of mine under the age of 20 within 100 yards of you. | ||
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how young do they have to be to not consent? you can pretty much convince a six year old to consent to cut off his hand if you tried hard enough, does that mean it absolves you of all blame when you do it? the concept is that it catches perverted old guys trying to take advantage of kids. i don't care if they have to lie to them all day, a billion of what you think are lies to them are worth one molestation stopped. its hilarious you think these sickos are being "seduced" i mean what the fuck are these middle aged men doing just hanging out in these chatrooms anyway? oh they are innocently discussing sports and politics right until a crazed horny sex loving 12 year old comes and seduces them? | ||
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Chibi[OWNS]
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Tezumai
Sweden19 Posts
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Pika Chu
Romania2510 Posts
In sociology we learn there are 6 types of victims, by the grade of fault: - completely innocent victims - victims who have aknowledge (bad spelling i think) of the dangers they are exposed to (firefighters, policemans etc) - victims with a slight guilt (let's say.. victims that have a provocative comportment, ie luring someone into commiting a crime) - the victims also commit the "crime" (cases of mutilation, suicide etc) - the victims who have same guilt as the commiter - the victims have a bigger guilt (cases of self defence etc) These categorys are also used by the juridical system. can someone tell me what "date rape" means btw? And luring a pedo is not the same as a pedo raping a child or going to him and offering something in exchange for money or stuff. Just like a girl has a big fault if she arouses a boy, and afterwards she refuses to have sex and gets raped. So imo what those guys do at that website is wrong, and i also believe the kids (the one who pretend to be kids) who work for them have some mental disorders. There are some mental disorders who apply to this actually. I dont remember the name actually but i remember hearing about it at some seminar and the doctor was talking as example of girls who have this problem and like to arouse boys and "get them hot" and leave them after just so they have a feeling of superiority. | ||
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j0ehoe
United States2705 Posts
On October 26 2006 22:48 Chibi[OWNS] wrote: are you fucking retarded? if strafe meets a hot chick at a party, starts chatting to her, gets on well, gets told by someone shes his friends 15 year old sister, invites her on a date, spends a few weeks spending time with her, then asks one romantic evening sticks a finger up her pussy, and THEN suddenly she turns around and says HAH IM ACTUALLY 18 YOU'RE A PEDOFILE RAPIST CHILD ABUSER AND IM GOING TO TELL EVERYONE I KNOW............ is this ok? yes. whether or not shes actually 15 doesnt matter, the fact that he believes she is and still proceeds to go after her is the bottom line. its statatory rape or the intent to do it. all he has to do is say no. | ||
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SoMuchBetter
Australia10606 Posts
On October 27 2006 02:56 Pika Chu wrote: can someone tell me what "date rape" means btw? Just like a girl has a big fault if she arouses a boy, and afterwards she refuses to have sex and gets raped. there ya go | ||
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baal
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Some guy approaches X person and after earning his trust offers him drugs... the guy clearly states "no, i do not want to do drugs"... he insists strongly again and again and again, the guy accepts to try the drug and ZOMFG busto!!!! the guy is sent to join lol. This is fucked up, they arent baiting pedos they are inducing people to commit crimes. | ||
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NonYold
United States2814 Posts
for the people luring- intention: prevent sex acts on children action: lie to a potential sex offender to see if, when he is given the chance, whether he would commit a sex crime or not. but dont ever let him do it, just evaluate his intention. result: a potential sex offender is arrested/humiliated. the idea is a person with a high probability to commit a sex crime is prevented from doing so, so this should lower the rate of sex crimes for the potential offender: intention: unknown. we assume that in every case that results in arrest, the intention was to actually do the sex crimes he talked about. action: lead a child to believe that he is going to do some sex acts with him/her, but never actually do any result: get arrested classic example of failure of the system: some guy who is trying to educate the children. he leads them to believe he is going to do a sex act, but when he shows up seeming like he'll do it, at the last second he stops and tries to teach the kid why it was bad for him to be accepting it. an example like this might be important to philosophers, and to some individuals, but i dont think it's very important to the practice of law. the law generally has some guidelines of what kind of evidence is required to prove intentions. according to the law, certain probabilities are sufficient for punishment. philosophically, you can damn any practice that has any chance of making a mistake. on the other hand, you can argue that if the practice, on the whole, does something good (ie it actually does prevent more sex crimes than ruin peoples lives unneccessarily), then you can say it is good. maybe something like aquinas's double effect, or utilitarianism. the problem is you can't ever say anything for sure i think a parallel can be drawn to the death penalty. people are unable to accept it because of the chance that one innocent man could be killed. they want to know 100% for certain the man is guilty, but that's not really possible, so we cant use the death penalty. since this practice in capturing sex offenders is so shaky with respect to many lines of thought, it does not seem worth it to attach such heavy penalties. | ||
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NonYold
United States2814 Posts
On October 27 2006 09:03 baal wrote: This is fucked up, they arent baiting pedos they are inducing people to commit crimes. yes i agree. here is another situation i can imagine: pedophiles exist, but there isn't a single child in the world that could ever be possibly put in a situation for a sex crime to be committed. then imagine that these police continued to induce pedophiles to commit these crimes. in reality, the pedophiles aren't criminals because their potential criminal act is no longer possible. in other words: imagine that no weed existed on the earth anymore, but then police offered people a substance saying "this is weed". so the people say "ok i want the weed im going to smoke it" and then they get arrested and given the punishment for smoking weed. so in the case of pedophiles, this could be somewhat true. let's say the pedophile just isn't able to find a kid to hook up with. he acts like an idiot online, he doesnt know where to look, he shows up and the kids all reject him upon seeing him, whatever. but then you have the police pretending to be kids, and they will be accommodating as possible. they will make possible what was either impossible, or very unlikely. i dont know how likely my scenarios are, and research would have to be done (if that's even possible), in order to make sure that there is a sufficient success rate (and i dont even know what determines 'sufficient') having said all that, my opinion is that the practice of the police is probably good overall. however, there are practices that are good that we condemn because of their methods. this might be one (that was what my previous post was about). | ||
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NonYold
United States2814 Posts
it should be how we treat almost every other crime. we educate or otherwise protect potential victims, and we punish offenders when we can prove (according to the court) that they committed an offense. i guess the reason governments have justified their practice of inducing crime is because they believe it impossible to educate victims in this case (because they are children). but i think that's absurd. | ||
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