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Warlock40
601 Posts
On May 28 2014 08:12 Wombat_NI wrote: You can have the worst kind of racist/xenophobic/sexist/homophobic views, as long as you don't kill anyone from that group they become irrelevant? Relatively irrelevant compared with murder, I'd say. | ||
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SpikeStarcraft
Germany2095 Posts
I looked up some statistics on wikipedia. List of school shootings in the USA Apparently school shootings happen every week. There were 40 shootings alone in this year. Thats just so insane. | ||
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PassionFruit
294 Posts
I like how he says "I've been thinking about how unfair my life has been..." while sitting in a beamer drinking a latte from Starbucks and wearing a snazzy track sweater. And it's not like he's super ugly or anything either. But he sure talks pretty weird, probably from thinking in isolation for so long. Either you spiral up into crazy brilliance, like Nietzsche or Van Gogh, or you spiral down into a psycho-kind-of-crazy. After reading the stuff in the news, I was surprised to hear how soft-spoken and calm he is in his videos. Talking about watching "the beautiful sun descend behind the mountains." Then he proceeds to knife his roommates in their sleep. What a fucking loon. | ||
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Emerson_H
United States460 Posts
On May 28 2014 17:26 PassionFruit wrote: Watched the beginning of two of his videos. I like how he says "I've been thinking about how unfair my life has been..." while sitting in a beamer drinking a latte from Starbucks and wearing a snazzy track sweater. And it's not like he's super ugly or anything either. But he sure talks pretty weird, probably from thinking in isolation for so long. Either you spiral up into crazy brilliance, like Nietzsche or Van Gogh, or you spiral down into a psycho-kind-of-crazy. After reading the stuff in the news, I was surprised to hear how soft-spoken and calm he is in his videos. Talking about watching "the beautiful sun descend behind the mountains." Then he proceeds to knife his roommates in their sleep. What a fucking loon. Let's not forget Beethoven here. He remained single his entire life despite falling in love multiple times and there is no evidence that he ever had a physical relationship with a woman. Instead, he channeled his suffering and creative energies into some of the most sublime pieces of art music ever written. Probably the absolute antithesis of this shithead Elliot Rodger. The guy keeps on mentioning how 'sophisticated' and 'intelligent' he is in his videos and manifesto, and yet I see none of that on display. The guy is a tremendous (shitty) actor, a truly deluded wannabe anti-hero, and an autistic narcissistic sociopath with a god-complex. But hey, at least he got his 15 minutes of fame, so there's that. | ||
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Leporello
United States2845 Posts
On May 28 2014 17:57 Emerson_H wrote: Let's not forget Beethoven here. He remained single his entire life despite falling in love multiple times and there is no evidence that he ever had a physical relationship with a woman. Instead, he channeled his suffering and creative energies into some of the most sublime pieces of art music ever written. Probably the absolute antithesis of this shithead Elliot Rodger. The guy keeps on mentioning how 'sophisticated' and 'intelligent' he is in his videos and manifesto, and yet I see none of that on display. The guy is a tremendous (shitty) actor, a truly deluded wannabe anti-hero, and an autistic narcissistic sociopath with a god-complex. But hey, at least he got his 15 minutes of fame, so there's that. It's obvious anyone can get nationwide recognition, have their writing de-facto published and largely publicized, and have its ideas debated on the news and on the internet (where almost any ideology can and will be defended), provided you make a qualifying sensational murder-spree. That's the worst part of our culture that, even more than this guy's super-misogyny, seems likely to provoke narcissistic psychopaths to commit what are essentially acts of terrorism. Their cause, whether personal or political, is almost guaranteed promotion. | ||
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Psychobabas
2531 Posts
On May 28 2014 10:20 Plansix wrote: It's to show there are mean girls on twitter. Really I thought that movie Mean Girls took care of that years ago, but apparently he felt we needed reminding. Never heard of that film. So... | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
Not really making a good case for the total non-sequitur post of bitchy women on twitter. Was there ever any doubt they existed? | ||
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BallinWitStalin
1177 Posts
On May 28 2014 19:48 Plansix wrote: Not really making a good case for the total non-sequitur post of bitchy women on twitter. Was there ever any doubt they existed? Yeah that's why it puzzled me. People are assholes on the internet. Some of those people are women. It's kind of sexist to assume they wouldn't be, women wouldn't be any different from men in this regard..... It's weird that he felt it's necessary to point that out. It's totally obvious that would be the case :/ Also, what does that contribute as a point? What's it's relevance to this dude's murder spree? Basically a meaningless contribution. | ||
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seom
South Africa491 Posts
he was short though | ||
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Sokrates
738 Posts
On May 28 2014 20:03 BallinWitStalin wrote: Yeah that's why it puzzled me. People are assholes on the internet. Some of those people are women. It's kind of sexist to assume they wouldn't be, women wouldn't be any different from men in this regard..... It's weird that he felt it's necessary to point that out. It's totally obvious that would be the case :/ Also, what does that contribute as a point? What's it's relevance to this dude's murder spree? Basically a meaningless contribution. What is the whole point of the misogyny discussion then? What is the point in pointing that out and make 20pages of discussion if he was it or not? Ofc he was, but how is that relevant when it is so blatantly obvious? | ||
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seom
South Africa491 Posts
On May 28 2014 16:22 SpikeStarcraft wrote: I dont keep track of all of those shootings in the US anymore. It happens so fucking often, like every 3-6 month? I looked up some statistics on wikipedia. List of school shootings in the USA Apparently school shootings happen every week. There were 40 shootings alone in this year. Thats just so insane. some of those don't really count though, e.g. "a student was shot with a BB gun while on the campus of Grant High School. School officials say the shooting happened while the student was in the locker room on Thursday. The student suffered minor injuries." | ||
Jibba
United States22883 Posts
On May 28 2014 07:34 [X]Ken_D wrote: So far, I'm 60 page into the manifesto. From what I've seen so far, I would not say he is a "misogynist" at all. In fact, I would argue he wasn't misogynist. What nobody mentioned is the girls he hated were all attractive girls. He didn't hate the plain or ugly girls. He just didn't talk about them. The reason is it was the attractive girls were with the guys who constantly bullied him. He associated the attractive girl as reinforcement to the bullying as they just watch it happen or sometimes enjoyed it as their boyfriend showed off in front of them. From there, any guys who were good with girls such as PUA, correlated to his bullying. In short, he hated attractive girls and guys who girls were attracted to. However, calling it "misogyny", pushes feminist agenda better. What kind of stupid asshattery is this? He only cared about sleeping with attractive women. He spoke with an insane amount of disrespect towards all women, feeling entitled to sleep with them. That's the kind of shit PUA propagates, and why that community is looked down upon (even though it seems like 1/3 of TLers want to call themselves PUA now.) The semantics you're trying to play in order to defend your community is absurd. He viewed all women - not just attractive women - as inferior to men and himself deserving of their affection. He was concentrated on attractive women because he wanted one, but that doesn't mean he didn't share the same disrespectful views towards women that PUA does in general. Hell, anyone, both men and women, who talks about being in the 'friend zone' is sharing some level of that disrespect. And stop it with this 'feminist agenda' shit. You have zero idea what you're talking about. Stopping sexually-related violence against women should be labeled 'society agenda.' | ||
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Psychobabas
2531 Posts
On May 28 2014 19:48 Plansix wrote: Not really making a good case for the total non-sequitur post of bitchy women on twitter. Was there ever any doubt they existed? Who said I'm even making a case. I'm just posting an image. Didn't even comment on it. Read up. But thanks for making your own judgement on what I am apparently thinking and what my intentions are, if any. Love it. Just love it. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland27464 Posts
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Jibba
United States22883 Posts
On May 28 2014 22:13 Psychobabas wrote: Who said I'm even making a case. I'm just posting an image. Didn't even comment on it. Read up. But thanks for making your own judgement on what I am apparently thinking and what my intentions are, if any. Love it. Just love it. So if you weren't making a comment with the image, does that mean it's a no content post? What's the purpose of it unless you have something to say about it, or you mean it to imply something. Obviously no one reading this thread actually believes you were 'just posting an image.' You chose that image because you had a commentary to make, whether it was written or not. We're not daft. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On May 28 2014 22:13 Psychobabas wrote: Who said I'm even making a case. I'm just posting an image. Didn't even comment on it. Read up. But thanks for making your own judgement on what I am apparently thinking and what my intentions are, if any. Love it. Just love it. Plz, you didn't post it there for no reason and since you won't explain why, I'm going to fill in the blanks. If you don't explain yourself, people will make their own judgments. Stop acting like a kicked puppy whe you know you posted that with a very specific purpose and now you aren't getting the exact response you wanted. | ||
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levelping
Singapore759 Posts
On May 28 2014 22:13 Psychobabas wrote: Who said I'm even making a case. I'm just posting an image. Didn't even comment on it. Read up. But thanks for making your own judgement on what I am apparently thinking and what my intentions are, if any. Love it. Just love it. I know it's pretty shocking that when you post a provocative imagine without explaining yourself, people assume the obvious. Geeze save us the victimisation. Was the guy really short though? I read he's 5'9 which is 175cm and that's not short. Not tall, but not short either. | ||
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urboss
Austria1223 Posts
Anyway, nothing ever happened because these people were always openly expressing their anger, they were always letting it all out so to say. The much worse and much more unpredictable people are those that let the anger stay inside and let it breed over the years. Such people are mainly a product of a society where natural male aggression has basically no breathing room. | ||
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Boblion
France8043 Posts
On May 28 2014 23:10 urboss wrote: where natural male aggression has basically no breathing room. Only video games and sports. Rest is just lies, lies and lies  | ||
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Jibba
United States22883 Posts
On May 28 2014 23:10 urboss wrote: Such people are mainly a product of a society where natural male aggression has basically no breathing room. Lol? Jesus. Become an adult already. People get angry, people have aggression and people should have outlets and express it. It isn't 'natural male aggression' being oppressed. | ||
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