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TheRealArtemis
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Quakie
Norway725 Posts
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pellejohnson
United States1931 Posts
On March 10 2014 00:12 TheRealArtemis wrote: So its either a horrible accident, or another Islamic terrorism attack involved with stolen passports? Seems like it. Either way it's a lot of dead people  | ||
dravernor
Netherlands6181 Posts
this is so tragic. Plane accidents are awful, and mysterious disappearances are equally horrid. | ||
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ETisME
12375 Posts
http://www.ntdtv.com/xtr/b5/2014/03/09/a1077532.html A PDF was sent to an internet media person, the sender name is roughly translated as the "Chinese's patriot leader" Basically related to the KunMing knifing incident a while ago. The group is Shinjang Separatist (basically they want Shinjang to be separated from China but history has been really complicated, it is recognized as terrorist group due to several attacks in the past). They are saying that the attack is a punishment for both Malaysia government (never stated what it is, they said Malaysia gov had been aggressive and violent to their people and should reflect upon themselves) The reason why this plane is chosen is because the plane contained a lot of Chinese and so they can also punish Chinese gov. They said Chinese gov gunned down some of their people, including women and children. They apologize for people from other countries, they would have wanted the plane to be 100% chinese. They even mentioned how the compensation should be paid, 40% from Malaysia Gov and 60% from the Chinese Gov. They are telling the Chinese Gov to improve the human rights, racial policy, and stop being aggressive to people of other race. (not sure if race is the right word, basically different group?) They want release of the "warriors" from the knifing attack. They are also saying that Malaysia government should not think this is all over, there will be more coming. and blah blah rise up against Chinese gov or more will die. Now that I got that part done, there is some doubts on the legitimacy of the PDF. Biggest being that the sender called himself a Chinese and none of the separatist would call themselves that. | ||
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bonedriven
258 Posts
On March 10 2014 01:02 ETisME wrote: A Terrorist group has claimed responsibility but not confirmed yet http://www.ntdtv.com/xtr/b5/2014/03/09/a1077532.html Any other source than this anti-chinese gov cult website? | ||
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zev318
Canada4306 Posts
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ETisME
12375 Posts
On March 10 2014 01:59 bonedriven wrote: Any other source than this anti-chinese gov cult website? I don't know what website is anti-chinese gov I actually saw it on yahoo hk news but the news seems to have been taken down within mins looks like this one is probably a more neutral one: http://china.dwnews.com/news/2014-03-09/59451670.html | ||
Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51479 Posts
On March 10 2014 02:10 zev318 wrote: does anyone work airport security? if interpol says that the passports were already in their stolen database, and someone were to use them, wouldnt that set off an alarm somewhere? or does the agent (at the airport) have to manually request for a check? They just use facial checks into what i have read. Then they do more digging once it flags up on the system. The guy who works for UK Border Force said that no doubt when these two passengers landed in Amsterdam they would of been arrested but he adds the question as to why it is done this way and not before they get on the plane. Don't forget they would or probably gone all 24 on this shit and cut out the pictures to the passports and made it look like the people who used them. Thus on visual checks you have no idea because that is all the checks are, visual ones. | ||
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zev318
Canada4306 Posts
On March 10 2014 03:15 Pandemona wrote: They just use facial checks into what i have read. Then they do more digging once it flags up on the system. The guy who works for UK Border Force said that no doubt when these two passengers landed in Amsterdam they would of been arrested but he adds the question as to why it is done this way and not before they get on the plane. Don't forget they would or probably gone all 24 on this shit and cut out the pictures to the passports and made it look like the people who used them. Thus on visual checks you have no idea because that is all the checks are, visual ones. well the pictures they would swap out, but would they be able to change the passport numbers/name? cause that's what i thought would flag it, is that the name or passport # matches what is on the stolen list and flags it. it would be ridiculously dumb if it is only facial checks as that's probably the easiest thing to change on a passport. | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51479 Posts
On March 10 2014 03:19 zev318 wrote: well the pictures they would swap out, but would they be able to change the passport numbers/name? cause that's what i thought would flag it, is that the name or passport # matches what is on the stolen list and flags it. it would be ridiculously dumb if it is only facial checks as that's probably the easiest thing to change on a passport. I think that is what is done im sure? You buy your tickets which they did in Thailand as they paid in Thai currency. So then their first check would of been checking their luggage in. So yeah im guessing the only physical check of passport numbers would be there and whether it is just checking passport number to ticket idk. But yeh im guessing you would check a computer system with passport number before you let them go...hmmm | ||
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Superiorwolf
United States5509 Posts
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Grobyc
Canada18410 Posts
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zev318
Canada4306 Posts
On March 10 2014 03:39 Superiorwolf wrote: Whenever I'm flying it seems like it's just a visual check, sometimes they ask for your name, they check the passport with a black light and that's it. No scanning or inputting the passports number into a database i dunno about us passports, but canadian ones have a barcode to scan. they wouldnt manually input passport number, that would make it so that you would only have to change the passport number. | ||
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nam nam
Sweden4672 Posts
On March 09 2014 23:51 Avean wrote: Doesnt make sense. Cabin doors are meant to be locked and cabin crew follows this extremely well. Also the terrorists would had to take out the pilots extremely fast before beeing able to signal for help. And why did the airplane turn off course, this must have happened so fast that i doubt anyone would just turn the airplane before crashing it. From the reports it looks like the airplane suddenly had to avoid something .... You hardly turn a plane around to avoid something save something like a mountain, there's no time to do so. Also there can be many different reasons why a plane would turn around. The pilots could have turned around towards the nearest airport for whatever reason, they could have been forced to turn around by high-jackers, the plane can have been damaged by bomb or some other failure that made the plane uncontrollable making it turn around before crashing. Also if someone is trying to get into the cabin the highest priority is to prevent that from happening, not necessarily signaling the tower as the first thing you do since they can't help anyway until the plane is on the ground. It's the same if they had some mechanical failure, the first priority is to get the plane under control, then signal for help. Since they never did we can only assume that whatever played out was relentless and happened fast. | ||
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Seraphic
United States3849 Posts
On March 10 2014 04:25 nam nam wrote: You hardly turn a plane around to avoid something save something like a mountain, there's no time to do so. Also there can be many different reasons why a plane would turn around. The pilots could have turned around towards the nearest airport for whatever reason, they could have been forced to turn around by high-jackers, the plane can have been damaged by bomb or some other failure that made the plane uncontrollable making it turn around before crashing. Also if someone is trying to get into the cabin the highest priority is to prevent that from happening, not necessarily signaling the tower as the first thing you do since they can't help anyway until the plane is on the ground. It's the same if they had some mechanical failure, the first priority is to get the plane under control, then signal for help. Since they never did we can only assume that whatever played out was relentless and happened fast. He is right. A Boeing 777 plane doesn't "turn", the plane isn't built like a fighter jet, it isn't built to really be able to turn on a dime (and take the damage if it is to intense, the G-Force is too much for a passenger jet to take. Hell awhile ago a China Airline Plane did a spin in mid air and the plane was so damaged when the pilot recovered it looked like it was shot at or something. If it is true that an SOS was real, along with oil slicks then something catastrophic happened with the plane and gave the pilots no time to react. Unlike the Air France 447, there was time but this time, it just seemed the plane disappeared. I hope they find it honestly. If it is a terrorist attack or not. | ||
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Warfie
Norway2846 Posts
On March 10 2014 08:50 Seraphic wrote: Hell awhile ago a China Airline Plane did a spin in mid air and the plane was so damaged when the pilot recovered it looked like it was shot at or something. Do you happen to remember where you saw this? I would be really interested to see the outcome | ||
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Seraphic
United States3849 Posts
On March 10 2014 09:03 Warfie wrote: Do you happen to remember where you saw this? I would be really interested to see the outcome I can link you to the dude's YouTube page. He apparently has uploaded almost all of the Air Emergency episodes from National Geographic. It's among them some where lol. https://www.youtube.com/user/luke999111/featured Edit: Oh I found it. It's China Airlines Flight 006 | ||
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Sub40APM
6336 Posts
On March 10 2014 03:57 zev318 wrote: i dunno about us passports, but canadian ones have a barcode to scan. they wouldnt manually input passport number, that would make it so that you would only have to change the passport number. It also depends if they are the new passports printed on that weird plastic background or the old style, paper passports. Its also possible that prejudice was a factor, I find that when I am in line with my Canadian passport between guys from 3rd world countries I get processed much quicker than when i am just in line with other Canadians. So stealing a Western passport and boarding while in a group of Indonesians or Chinese could have had the personal unwittingly give someone a quicker check. | ||
itsjustatank
Hong Kong9153 Posts
Shares in Malaysia Airlines plunged 18% to a record low as the search for a missing jet continued for a third day. A multinational team has been looking for Flight 370 since Saturday after it disappeared en route from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing. http://www.bbc.com/news/business-26510497 | ||
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